From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from [69.77.167.62] (helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-user+bounces-84921-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1Knnhf-0004mC-Ef for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 09 Oct 2008 05:04:47 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 905BFE04B6; Thu, 9 Oct 2008 05:04:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.168]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A0D3E04B6 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 9 Oct 2008 05:04:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 29so4431717wff.10 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Wed, 08 Oct 2008 22:04:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=FV+rKeMfhZSHtaLzz6ITRJCFxixaBIRypApvBiezHoY=; b=hTaWr+I6vPJpH8LeiML5vePUf2juWJUMP/nGYfc7chNPRzBcYE6mDDC34uMbugvzsi lA2RLtp3RX807Kvd2VZeWhEzkoTHQMGk61Dn1/K1t0darWdowEU5mEILERjFYbFiDXDm 5Ht+PoIhq5Ej0uC9SwXHBx99/YB3PiA8ol2z0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=GyugcZREPFS1BeTuLikB2g5hCx4Lrg5I36ExCXHh5neGFVQ6IV9GlcJ0sC8pqT1ec5 m93CsuwihEQhPQoyrhiCAeigpWTlCEbP4j0Znd7Sov4pQ686xK3VeNEd8dgi3z6vRLON cZVLzkzhxfzYxP70SC9/vT6G2mAHblmvxuZPo= Received: by 10.142.178.2 with SMTP id a2mr4082301wff.160.1223528683740; Wed, 08 Oct 2008 22:04:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.40.6 with HTTP; Wed, 8 Oct 2008 22:04:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <e38d12ff0810082204h70f19be1h9035a8bd941cdffb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 01:04:43 -0400 From: "Andrey Vul" <andrey.vul@gmail.com> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Reopen: OpenOffice dies on startup In-Reply-To: <9acccfe50810082032m6a4b92a2p316d90fee3bceb21@mail.gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <9acccfe50810051631q1c7b884h741a9e18591b01fc@mail.gmail.com> <200810080750.32722.dirk.heinrichs.ext@nsn.com> <48ED2740.4000106@gmail.com> <200810082328.50188.dirk.heinrichs@online.de> <9acccfe50810081455s7e10d532i254160be1d0b7dc3@mail.gmail.com> <e38d12ff0810081828l7dd1437bx6505d7e2860b1deb@mail.gmail.com> <9acccfe50810082032m6a4b92a2p316d90fee3bceb21@mail.gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: ea5f4619-efa6-4555-9882-8416e385ac13 X-Archives-Hash: 50b18de8cbe50fd5045cbde9ab77ef6a On an 1.7 GHz Ahtlon Xp with 768 MB of SDR133, it takes about 8 hours if X is *not* running and there are no other emerges nor anything else that is CPU-/RAM-hunry. Basically, turn off X and your research programs for up to 12 hours. nice -n -20 can shave your emerge time even more, at the risk of decreased system responsiveness. The only thing that takes a day or two is emerge -uvD --with-bdeps=y world . Gentoo requires patience, with the reward of fast code. I actually enjoy waiting for compiles to finish, so much so that I install from stage 1 if possible and only use stage 3 if I have to get Gentoo working in a short amount of time. At least the compiling makes a very good screensaver :D On 10/8/08, Kevin O'Gorman <kogorman@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Andrey Vul <andrey.vul@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 5:55 PM, Kevin O'Gorman <kogorman@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On 10/8/08, Dirk Heinrichs <dirk.heinrichs@online.de> wrote: >>>> > > Am Mittwoch 08 Oktober 2008 04:23:35 schrieb ext Kevin O'Gorman: >>>> > > Why did you choose Gentoo, then? Only by compiling OOo, you will >>>> get one >>>> > > that fits into _your_ system. >>> >>> For me, the reasons are >>> 1. I wanted Gentoo for the toolchain and the things I'm developing. >>> These are the things where I wanted support tailored to my 2xXeon (4 >>> core) system. >>> >>> 2. I've been using Oo-bin because it worked, and efficiency didn't >>> matter because >>> I don't even use it every week. Compiling it takes a day or so and >>> accordingly it was spending more time compiling than I was spending >>> using it. Now it no longer works and I'll probably use Word on my >>> wife's laptop. But I won't like it. >> Your system is 4 core and it takes a day to compile OOo? Something >> sounds very off. >> Honestly, my 3 year old laptop which has 1 core and a 1.8 GHz Turion >> with 2GB of DDR333 takes 4 hours to compile. >> What are you running apart from emerge (e.g. X, firefox, etc.)? >> >> >> -- >> Andrey Vul > > This is a 6-year-old desktop, 1.6 GHz, 2 GB original DDR memory. > > I run KDE and sometimes a bunch of compute-bound research tasks of my > own creation. > > I haven't compiled it in so long I may be confusing it with gnome or > KDE or any of that collection of things that monopolize my machine > from time to time. A couple of years back I went to 'bin' on things I > don't use much, and did some trimming on modular packages like KDE to > cut down my emerge times. There are just so many times when I want to > break in to fool with some hardware and I'm loath to do it during an > emerge. I just think of these measures as saving me days of emerging > from time to time. > > ++ kevin > > -- > Kevin O'Gorman, PhD > > -- Andrey Vul A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?