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[75.155.153.147]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y83sm30795433pfa.31.2017.10.30.12.33.54 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 30 Oct 2017 12:33:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Alternatives to knutclient To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <1922379.ZbMImBqxyj@dell_xps> <71878972.4tTIccPE0R@dell_xps> <514fb8df-3d93-7368-963b-41dcb08762ce@gmail.com> <2704889.g4SM65V9YC@dell_xps> From: Daniel Frey Message-ID: Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2017 12:33:52 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.3.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2704889.g4SM65V9YC@dell_xps> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: cb27e7bc-b87a-4712-b3a7-e2229a361ff5 X-Archives-Hash: f74fa02338afba8144a6fa6e8c006476 On 10/30/2017 07:47 AM, Mick wrote: > On Monday, 30 October 2017 14:09:58 GMT Daniel Frey wrote: >> On 10/30/2017 03:15 AM, Mick wrote: > >>> Now, I better look into finding a way to silence this new UPS fan which >>> seems to be going on 24/7 with or without load on it! o_O >> >> Some new UPS systems are designed to have the fan running all the time. >> I don't think it's a good idea to stop it... >> >> Dan > > Right, I suspect it is meant to be running all the time, at high speed when > running on battery and low speed at all other times. This is a 2nd hand HP > T1000 G3 I bought cheaply, because many of the new entry level UPS appliances > being sold today are not fit for human consumption, judging by user reviews. > Yeah, I found that out. One of my UPSs crapped out after a power failure a couple weeks ago, then I realized it's from 2006... I did some looking around (I had an APC) and all the APC branded crap you get in the stores are cheaper, inferior options. I found out the BX-prefixed models don't even have proper AVR (they only correct when the voltage drops below a certain point, they don't do anything in an overvoltage situation. The BR-prefixed models are like the old UPS of lore, they offer true AVR for both undervolt and overvolt situations, and the one I have even has an option for an extra battery pack for extended runtime (BR1500G.) Basically anything in Best Buy, Staples, or similar stores is guaranteed to have the consumer BX model junk. APC gave me a reseller that sold me the BR1500G model and it was about $50 more. And as a bonus, it still works with apcupsd. I heard some newer APC models are using some new proprietary communication protocols. Never seen one in practice though, I wonder if that's the consumer junk I was reading about. Dan