* [gentoo-user] --depclean wants to remove udev. What!? @ 2022-06-20 1:38 Dale 2022-06-20 2:36 ` Julien Roy 2022-06-20 2:46 ` Dale 0 siblings, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Dale @ 2022-06-20 1:38 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user Howdy all, Once a month or so, or when told to by a news item, I run emerge with the --depclean option. I look at the list in case there something there I want to keep or something that shouldn't be removed, like gcc or something. I ran it a bit ago and got back this: > >>> These are the packages that would be unmerged: > > dev-lang/vala > selected: 0.52.10 > protected: none > omitted: 0.54.7 0.56.1 > > sys-apps/systemd-tmpfiles > selected: 250 > protected: none > omitted: none > > dev-libs/rapidjson > selected: 1.1.0-r3 > protected: none > omitted: none > > sys-fs/udev > selected: 250 > protected: none > omitted: none > > sys-devel/clang > selected: 13.0.1 > protected: none > omitted: 14.0.4 > > sys-devel/clang-runtime > selected: 13.0.1 > protected: none > omitted: 14.0.4 > > sys-libs/compiler-rt > selected: 13.0.1 > protected: none > omitted: 14.0.4 > > sys-libs/compiler-rt-sanitizers > selected: 13.0.1 > protected: none > omitted: 14.0.4 > > sys-devel/llvm > selected: 13.0.1 > protected: none > omitted: 14.0.4 > > All selected packages: =sys-devel/clang-runtime-13.0.1 > =sys-libs/compiler-rt-13.0.1 =sys-libs/compiler-rt-sanitizers-13.0.1 > =sys-devel/clang-13.0.1 =dev-lang/vala-0.52.10 > =sys-apps/systemd-tmpfiles-250 =sys-fs/udev-250 =sys-devel/llvm-13.0.1 > =dev-libs/rapidjson-1.1.0-r3 > > >>> 'Selected' packages are slated for removal. > >>> 'Protected' and 'omitted' packages will not be removed. > > Would you like to unmerge these packages? [Yes/No] The part that has me concerned is sys-fs/udev. There's another that I'm not sure about but that one caught my eye right away. I don't recall seeing anything posted on -dev about switching to something else or udev no longer being needed and being removed. I'm confused here. Isn't the virtual supposed to prevent this from being removed? Is this a portage change or did I mess something up somewhere? This is what I show here depending either on the virtual or udev itself. > root@fireball / # equery d sys-fs/udev > * These packages depend on sys-fs/udev: > virtual/libudev-232-r7 (!systemd ? > sys-fs/udev[abi_x86_32(-)?,abi_x86_64(-)?,abi_x86_x32(-)?,abi_mips_n32(-)?,abi_mips_n64(-)?,abi_mips_o32(-)?,abi_s390_32(-)?,abi_s390_64(-)?]) > virtual/udev-217-r5 (sys-fs/udev) > root@fireball / # equery d virtual/udev > * These packages depend on virtual/udev: > app-crypt/zulucrypt-5.5.0_pre20180223 (udev ? virtual/udev) > app-pda/usbmuxd-1.1.1 (virtual/udev) > dev-libs/libinput-1.20.1 (virtual/udev) > media-video/vlc-3.0.17.4 (udev ? virtual/udev) > net-misc/dhcpcd-9.4.1 (udev ? virtual/udev) > sys-block/f3-8.0 (extra ? virtual/udev) > sys-fs/cryptmount-5.3.3-r2 (udev ? virtual/udev) > sys-fs/udev-init-scripts-34 (>=virtual/udev-217) > sys-fs/udisks-2.9.4 (virtual/udev) > sys-kernel/dracut-055-r4 (virtual/udev) > sys-libs/libblockdev-2.26 (lvm ? virtual/udev) > sys-power/nut-2.7.4-r8 (virtual/udev) > sys-power/upower-0.99.17 (kernel_linux ? virtual/udev) > virtual/dev-manager-0-r2 (virtual/udev) > x11-misc/spacefm-1.0.6-r1 (virtual/udev) > xfce-base/thunar-4.16.11 (udisks ? virtual/udev) > xfce-extra/thunar-volman-4.16.0 (virtual/udev) > root@fireball / # This is the packages I have installed containing udev. > root@fireball / # equery list *udev* > * Searching for *udev* ... > [IP-] [ ] dev-libs/libgudev-237-r1:0/0 > [IP-] [ ] sys-fs/udev-250:0 > [IP-] [ ] sys-fs/udev-init-scripts-34:0 > [IP-] [ ] virtual/libudev-232-r7:0/1 > [IP-] [ ] virtual/udev-217-r5:0 > root@fireball / # Anyone have ideas on this? I mess up something? Catch the tree in a bad state? Something else I'm not aware of? It's not making sense to me yet. :/ Thanks. Dale :-) :-) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] --depclean wants to remove udev. What!? 2022-06-20 1:38 [gentoo-user] --depclean wants to remove udev. What!? Dale @ 2022-06-20 2:36 ` Julien Roy 2022-06-20 3:04 ` Dale 2022-06-20 2:46 ` Dale 1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Julien Roy @ 2022-06-20 2:36 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user [-- Attachment #1.1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 640 bytes --] Hello, On 6/19/22 21:38, Dale wrote: > Anyone have ideas on this? I mess up something? Catch the tree in a > bad state? Something else I'm not aware of? It's not making sense to > me yet. :/ sys-fs/udev has been replaced by a USE flag on the sys-apps/systemd-utils package. When you updated your system, portage most likely installed systemd-utils with the 'udev' USE flag by default. It also replaces sys-apps/systemd-tmpfiles, which is also included in your --depclean. You can read more about this change here : https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2022-04-19-systemd-utils.html Regards, Julien [-- Attachment #1.1.2: OpenPGP public key --] [-- Type: application/pgp-keys, Size: 5425 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: OpenPGP digital signature --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 495 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] --depclean wants to remove udev. What!? 2022-06-20 2:36 ` Julien Roy @ 2022-06-20 3:04 ` Dale 0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Dale @ 2022-06-20 3:04 UTC (permalink / raw To: Gentoo User Julien Roy wrote: > Hello, > > On 6/19/22 21:38, Dale wrote: >> Anyone have ideas on this? I mess up something? Catch the tree in a >> bad state? Something else I'm not aware of? It's not making sense to >> me yet. :/ > > sys-fs/udev has been replaced by a USE flag on the > sys-apps/systemd-utils package. When you updated your system, portage > most likely installed systemd-utils with the 'udev' USE flag by > default. It also replaces sys-apps/systemd-tmpfiles, which is also > included in your --depclean. > > You can read more about this change here : > https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2022-04-19-systemd-utils.html > > Regards, > Julien I don't recall that news item but for my memory, that was a long time ago. So, it is safe to remove udev and it is being replaced by systemd-utils? OK. I can live with that. I did a news list and grepped for udev. It didn't find that given that name and I may have missed it with that name since I don't use systemd. Oh well. Now I got to remember to keep a eye out for changes to this instead of udev. o_O Thanks much. Dale :-) :-) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] --depclean wants to remove udev. What!? 2022-06-20 1:38 [gentoo-user] --depclean wants to remove udev. What!? Dale 2022-06-20 2:36 ` Julien Roy @ 2022-06-20 2:46 ` Dale 2022-06-20 6:02 ` [gentoo-user] " Martin Vaeth 1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Dale @ 2022-06-20 2:46 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user Dale wrote: > Howdy all, > > Once a month or so, or when told to by a news item, I run emerge with > the --depclean option. I look at the list in case there something there > I want to keep or something that shouldn't be removed, like gcc or > something. I ran it a bit ago and got back this: > > >>>>> These are the packages that would be unmerged: >> dev-lang/vala >> selected: 0.52.10 >> protected: none >> omitted: 0.54.7 0.56.1 >> >> sys-apps/systemd-tmpfiles >> selected: 250 >> protected: none >> omitted: none >> >> dev-libs/rapidjson >> selected: 1.1.0-r3 >> protected: none >> omitted: none >> >> sys-fs/udev >> selected: 250 >> protected: none >> omitted: none >> >> sys-devel/clang >> selected: 13.0.1 >> protected: none >> omitted: 14.0.4 >> >> sys-devel/clang-runtime >> selected: 13.0.1 >> protected: none >> omitted: 14.0.4 >> >> sys-libs/compiler-rt >> selected: 13.0.1 >> protected: none >> omitted: 14.0.4 >> >> sys-libs/compiler-rt-sanitizers >> selected: 13.0.1 >> protected: none >> omitted: 14.0.4 >> >> sys-devel/llvm >> selected: 13.0.1 >> protected: none >> omitted: 14.0.4 >> >> All selected packages: =sys-devel/clang-runtime-13.0.1 >> =sys-libs/compiler-rt-13.0.1 =sys-libs/compiler-rt-sanitizers-13.0.1 >> =sys-devel/clang-13.0.1 =dev-lang/vala-0.52.10 >> =sys-apps/systemd-tmpfiles-250 =sys-fs/udev-250 =sys-devel/llvm-13.0.1 >> =dev-libs/rapidjson-1.1.0-r3 >> >>>>> 'Selected' packages are slated for removal. >>>>> 'Protected' and 'omitted' packages will not be removed. >> Would you like to unmerge these packages? [Yes/No] > > > The part that has me concerned is sys-fs/udev. There's another that I'm > not sure about but that one caught my eye right away. I don't recall > seeing anything posted on -dev about switching to something else or udev > no longer being needed and being removed. I'm confused here. Isn't the > virtual supposed to prevent this from being removed? Is this a portage > change or did I mess something up somewhere? > > This is what I show here depending either on the virtual or udev itself. > > >> root@fireball / # equery d sys-fs/udev >> * These packages depend on sys-fs/udev: >> virtual/libudev-232-r7 (!systemd ? >> sys-fs/udev[abi_x86_32(-)?,abi_x86_64(-)?,abi_x86_x32(-)?,abi_mips_n32(-)?,abi_mips_n64(-)?,abi_mips_o32(-)?,abi_s390_32(-)?,abi_s390_64(-)?]) >> virtual/udev-217-r5 (sys-fs/udev) >> root@fireball / # equery d virtual/udev >> * These packages depend on virtual/udev: >> app-crypt/zulucrypt-5.5.0_pre20180223 (udev ? virtual/udev) >> app-pda/usbmuxd-1.1.1 (virtual/udev) >> dev-libs/libinput-1.20.1 (virtual/udev) >> media-video/vlc-3.0.17.4 (udev ? virtual/udev) >> net-misc/dhcpcd-9.4.1 (udev ? virtual/udev) >> sys-block/f3-8.0 (extra ? virtual/udev) >> sys-fs/cryptmount-5.3.3-r2 (udev ? virtual/udev) >> sys-fs/udev-init-scripts-34 (>=virtual/udev-217) >> sys-fs/udisks-2.9.4 (virtual/udev) >> sys-kernel/dracut-055-r4 (virtual/udev) >> sys-libs/libblockdev-2.26 (lvm ? virtual/udev) >> sys-power/nut-2.7.4-r8 (virtual/udev) >> sys-power/upower-0.99.17 (kernel_linux ? virtual/udev) >> virtual/dev-manager-0-r2 (virtual/udev) >> x11-misc/spacefm-1.0.6-r1 (virtual/udev) >> xfce-base/thunar-4.16.11 (udisks ? virtual/udev) >> xfce-extra/thunar-volman-4.16.0 (virtual/udev) >> root@fireball / # > > This is the packages I have installed containing udev. > > >> root@fireball / # equery list *udev* >> * Searching for *udev* ... >> [IP-] [ ] dev-libs/libgudev-237-r1:0/0 >> [IP-] [ ] sys-fs/udev-250:0 >> [IP-] [ ] sys-fs/udev-init-scripts-34:0 >> [IP-] [ ] virtual/libudev-232-r7:0/1 >> [IP-] [ ] virtual/udev-217-r5:0 >> root@fireball / # > > > Anyone have ideas on this? I mess up something? Catch the tree in a > bad state? Something else I'm not aware of? It's not making sense to > me yet. :/ > > Thanks. > > Dale > > :-) :-) > I think I found something but not sure if it is what I think it is. The virtual says it needs one of the following: sys-apps/systemd-utils[udev] sys-fs/udev >=sys-fs/eudev-2.1.1 >=sys-apps/systemd-217 Since systemd-utils is at the top, I looked to see if it was installed or not, and it is. [IP-] [ ] sys-apps/systemd-utils-250.7:0 as is: sys-fs/udev-250 So, I think it wants to remove udev and use the other. This is what depends on the systemd package. root@fireball / # equery d sys-apps/systemd-utils * These packages depend on sys-apps/systemd-utils: sys-apps/systemd-tmpfiles-250 (sys-apps/systemd-utils[tmpfiles]) sys-fs/udev-250 (sys-apps/systemd-utils[udev,abi_x86_32(-)?,abi_x86_64(-)?,abi_x86_x32(-)?,abi_mips_n32(-)?,abi_mips_n64(-)?,abi_mips_o32(-)?,abi_s390_32(-)?,abi_s390_64(-)?]) virtual/libudev-232-r7 (!systemd ? sys-apps/systemd-utils[udev,abi_x86_32(-)?,abi_x86_64(-)?,abi_x86_x32(-)?,abi_mips_n32(-)?,abi_mips_n64(-)?,abi_mips_o32(-)?,abi_s390_32(-)?,abi_s390_64(-)?]) virtual/tmpfiles-0-r3 (!prefix-guest ? sys-apps/systemd-utils[tmpfiles]) virtual/udev-217-r5 (sys-apps/systemd-utils[udev]) root@fireball / # At this point, I'm stumped. It looks like something depends on itself or something. < me thinks > Does this helps anybody that understands this? Dale :-) :-) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* [gentoo-user] Re: --depclean wants to remove udev. What!? 2022-06-20 2:46 ` Dale @ 2022-06-20 6:02 ` Martin Vaeth 0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Martin Vaeth @ 2022-06-20 6:02 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote: > > root@fireball / # equery d sys-apps/systemd-utils > * These packages depend on sys-apps/systemd-utils: > sys-apps/systemd-tmpfiles-250 (sys-apps/systemd-utils[tmpfiles]) > sys-fs/udev-250 (sys-apps/systemd-utils[udev,...]) > virtual/libudev-232-r7 (!systemd ? sys-apps/systemd-utils[udev,...]) > virtual/tmpfiles-0-r3 (!prefix-guest ? sys-apps/systemd-utils[tmpfiles]) > virtual/udev-217-r5 (sys-apps/systemd-utils[udev]) Looks completely sane: sys-apps/systemd-tmpfiles-250 and sys-fs/udev-250 are "practically" just virtuals which only pull in sys-apps/systemd-utils with the corresponding USE-flags. And the "true" virtuals for for tmpfiles and udev also depend on that package with the corresponding USE-flags. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
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