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From: james <garftd@verizon.net>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?
Date: Thu, 7 May 2020 11:04:14 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <dfbec568-6dfd-0c63-852a-0ed65da39820@verizon.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a1336b76-ab11-f9a7-eb42-5ad257e91baa@gmail.com>

On 5/6/20 11:39 PM, Dale wrote:
> Pengcheng Xu wrote:
>> Sorry for possible necroposting, but I'm pretty interested what's happening in this thread, as there seems to be detailed discussion on topics under this "Is Gentoo dead?" clickbait subject.  The whole conversation list does not even fit in a single screen...  Would someone kindly provide some clue what's going on?
>>
>> Regards,
> 
> 
> Well, it is about Gentoo and the perception someone had that Gentoo is 
> dying, which has been claimed for many, many years now.� Then the thread 
> started taking off into other directions.� It got slightly off topic, 
> very off topic a couple times and then back on topic. These threads tend 
> to bring out quite a few responses and most can't resist posting, myself 
> included in that as well.� I might add, there threads are usually 
> started by a newcomer and typically they disappear when they realize how 
> active Gentoo really is.� The OP for this thread posted for a couple 
> days and I don't see any posts after that.� Most likely, unsubscribed 
> and long gone.
> 
> If you enjoy using Gentoo, or if you don't, if you skip this thread, you 
> won't be missing a whole lot.� I don't recall any breaking news or life 
> saving tips in it.� ROFL
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)� :-)


Spot on. Similarly, folks, mostly youngsters, have been predicting the 
death of 'C'. There are a multitude of reasons C is still the go to 
language and ought to be mandatory for folks to learn BEFORE any other 
language. C gives us freedom, and with C, there is no Unix, BSD, or 
linux, ymmv. Go read this before bashing an old computer scientist:

"Programming language C is back in the number one spot"

https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/


So I wonder how many of the Gentoo naysayers, actually have written any 
significant code in C?  Pointer please.

Arguably the hottest piece of code, was written (mostly)
by a Gentoo aficionado: none other that Jason Donefeld,
in guess what language?

C

Gentoo is C centric, since the beginning, whilst enabling a plethora of 
other languages, that have their place and are, for the most part, 
wonderful.

Anyone attacks, or speaks poorly of Gentoo, is pretty much clueless. 
Last time I looked, it's still rated as one of the top Linux distros, of 
all time, when you consider a 20 year perspective. Today, Gentoo seeks 
to run off the lazy, the inept and those that want to trivialize 
computational complexities.Ubuntu, Mint and others are more well suited 
for the masses, the lazy and the inept.

Not to mention  Gentoo was the foundation of CoreOS.
CoreOS advance many 'hot swap kernel' tricks and was purchased by 
Redhat, as Traditional Redhat is arcane, crusty and bloated. IBM, on 
their deathbed, has purchased Redhat(basically a gentoo derivative now) 
and is failing in most of their other business dealings; because they 
lack real computer scientists in their upper management.

Gentoo was, always has, and is still 'kicking ass'; real coders know 
this, they just keep silent, cause they are MAKING MONEY, off of Gentoo. 
Gentoo Embedded is a whole other EMPIRE, where folks take credit for 
building products on embedded systems. GENTOO is still the world's 
greatest secret in computer science.

Here's a tidbit: The hacker, from the inside, that's right an IBM 
employee at Watson, used Gentoo to hack the shit out of AIX. That was at 
the point, the main reason, IBM abandoned that looser distro call AIX. 
Now IBM, via purchasing RedHat (coreOS <== Gentoo) has taken over 20 
years, to realize GENTOO is the greatest linux distro of all time.  So I 
cannot help but feel sorry, for the kids, that the universities do not 
teach C/Unix/BSD/Linux with any dose of credibility. New is sexy, but 
statistically, 99% of new fades, often rapidly. Just look at the 
bone-yard of linux distros and fancy programming languages.


The (IBM) stench is deep. 'Smarty Pants' has recently left his creation 
of CoreOS; I guess even the IBM stench was too much for even him, 
despite making millions and millions.....

GENTOO IS THE GREATEST DISTRO EVER! Only the original, historical unix 
distros come close. Unix is the real reason AT&T was broken up. All that 
other noise is just a smoke screen, financial maneuvering and  just big 
business. GTE and Honeywell quickly rolled their own 'unix', and the 
rest is history the universities do not teach, sadly. Don't even get me 
started on SunOS, and the evil that pursued those lawyers.


be blessed,
James


      parent reply	other threads:[~2020-05-07 15:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 158+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-21 16:58 [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead? Consus
2020-04-21 17:11 ` Ashley Dixon
2020-04-22 12:28   ` Alessandro Barbieri
2020-04-21 18:10 ` Rich Freeman
2020-04-21 18:33   ` Consus
2020-04-21 18:41     ` Rich Freeman
2020-04-21 18:48       ` Consus
2020-04-21 18:51     ` Ralph Seichter
2020-04-21 19:00       ` Consus
2020-04-22  0:09         ` Dale
2020-04-22  0:26           ` Rich Freeman
2020-04-22  1:49             ` Dale
2020-04-22  2:22               ` Rich Freeman
2020-04-22  2:55                 ` Dale
2020-04-22  7:41                   ` John Covici
2020-04-22  8:15                     ` Dale
2020-04-22 12:15                       ` John Covici
2020-04-22 12:53                         ` Dale
2020-04-22 13:51                           ` John Covici
2020-04-22 15:04                             ` Dale
2020-04-22 15:20                               ` John Covici
2020-04-22 15:26                                 ` Jack
2020-04-22 15:58                                   ` John Covici
2020-04-22 16:03                                     ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-22 17:14                                       ` Dale
2020-04-22 17:19                                       ` John Covici
2020-04-22 17:30                                         ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-23  0:15                                           ` John Covici
2020-04-23  1:57                                             ` Dale
2020-04-22  7:42                   ` Philip Webb
2020-04-23 19:55               ` Steven Lembark
2020-04-24  1:22                 ` Dale
2020-04-21 19:10     ` Neil Bothwick
2020-04-22  8:06       ` Consus
2020-04-23 19:46     ` Steven Lembark
2020-04-21 18:47 ` Peter Humphrey
2020-04-21 19:01   ` Consus
2020-04-21 20:27     ` Rich Freeman
2020-04-21 20:51       ` [gentoo-user] Gentoo Tinderboxes? Michael Jones
2020-04-21 22:01         ` Gregory Rudolph
2020-04-21 22:36           ` Michael Jones
2020-04-22  9:46             ` Peter Humphrey
2020-04-22 10:17               ` J. Roeleveld
2020-04-22 11:20                 ` Neil Bothwick
2020-04-24 22:22                   ` jdm
2020-04-26 15:25                     ` Viktar Patotski
2020-04-22 14:35               ` Michael Jones
     [not found]                 ` <20200423152135.77bb9a0c.lembark@wrkhors.com>
2020-04-23 20:57                   ` Michael Jones
2020-04-21 23:05         ` Consus
2020-04-23 20:18         ` Steven Lembark
2020-04-22 15:22     ` [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead? Caveman Al Toraboran
2020-04-22 15:35       ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-22 16:07         ` Caveman Al Toraboran
2020-04-22 16:13           ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-22 16:14           ` [OBORONA-SPAM] " lego12239
2020-04-22 16:16             ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-22 16:31               ` [OBORONA-SPAM] " lego12239
2020-04-22 16:32                 ` Michael Jones
2020-04-22 16:48                   ` [OBORONA-SPAM] " lego12239
2020-04-22 17:03                     ` Michael Jones
2020-04-24 12:35                   ` Caveman Al Toraboran
2020-04-24 12:45                     ` Rich Freeman
2020-04-24 16:07                       ` Caveman Al Toraboran
2020-04-24 17:54                     ` Michele Alzetta
2020-04-24 17:56                       ` Michele Alzetta
2020-04-24 18:16                         ` Caveman Al Toraboran
2020-04-22 16:17             ` Alessandro Barbieri
2020-04-22 16:24               ` Michael Jones
2020-04-22 16:28                 ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-22 16:31                   ` Michael Jones
2020-05-07  1:13                   ` Caveman Al Toraboran
2020-05-07  1:43                     ` Rich Freeman
2020-05-07  2:14                       ` Caveman Al Toraboran
2020-05-07  2:35                         ` Rich Freeman
2020-05-07  3:31                           ` Dale
2020-05-07  3:50                             ` Caveman Al Toraboran
2020-05-07  7:49                               ` Michael
2020-05-07  8:26                             ` [OBORONA-SPAM] " Neil Bothwick
2020-05-07 15:11                               ` Dale
2020-05-07 15:41                                 ` Michael
2020-05-07 18:13                                   ` Dale
2020-05-07  4:26                           ` [OBORONA-SPAM] " Caveman Al Toraboran
2020-04-22 16:26               ` [OBORONA-SPAM] " lego12239
2020-04-22 17:48                 ` Alessandro Barbieri
2020-04-22 18:08                   ` [OBORONA-SPAM] " lego12239
2020-04-22 18:19                     ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-22 18:24                       ` Michael Jones
2020-04-22 18:33                         ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-22 19:15                           ` Michael Jones
2020-04-22 19:19                             ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-22 19:22                               ` Michael Jones
2020-04-22 19:24                                 ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-23  8:45                                   ` [OBORONA-SPAM] " lego12239
2020-04-24 21:07                                     ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-24 22:30                                       ` lego12239
2020-04-23  8:31                                 ` [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] " lego12239
2020-04-23  8:52                               ` lego12239
2020-04-23  8:59                                 ` Consus
2020-04-23  9:17                                   ` lego12239
2020-04-23  9:02                                 ` [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] " Dale
2020-04-23  9:26                                   ` lego12239
2020-04-23  9:44                                     ` Dale
2020-04-23 10:34                                       ` lego12239
2020-04-23 10:55                                         ` Dale
2020-04-24 20:48                                       ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-23 15:20                                     ` J. Roeleveld
2020-04-23 15:37                                       ` lego12239
2020-04-23  8:27                           ` [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] " lego12239
2020-04-22 18:24                       ` Consus
2020-04-22 18:38                         ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-22 18:51                           ` Consus
2020-04-23  8:24                       ` [OBORONA-SPAM] " lego12239
2020-04-22 16:26               ` Jorge Almeida
2020-04-23 20:27             ` Steven Lembark
2020-04-24  9:22               ` [OBORONA-SPAM] " lego12239
2020-04-24 13:34                 ` [gentoo-user] Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] " Grant Edwards
2020-04-24 18:05                   ` [gentoo-user] " lego12239
2020-04-24 18:46                     ` Grant Edwards
2020-04-24 21:19                       ` lego12239
2020-04-24 16:30                 ` [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [gentoo-user] " inasprecali
2020-04-24 17:37                   ` Caveman Al Toraboran
2020-04-24 17:46                     ` Robert Bridge
2020-04-24 18:08                   ` [OBORONA-SPAM] " lego12239
2020-04-24 17:23                     ` Ashley Dixon
2020-04-25 16:37               ` [OBORONA-SPAM] " Caveman Al Toraboran
2020-04-25 18:28                 ` Ashley Dixon
2020-04-27 11:31             ` Kent Fredric
2020-04-27 15:57               ` lego12239
2020-04-28 15:33                 ` Kent Fredric
2020-04-28 16:56                   ` lego12239
2020-04-22 17:29         ` Dale
2020-04-22 17:34           ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-22 17:52             ` Dale
2020-04-23 18:14             ` Caveman Al Toraboran
2020-04-23 18:26               ` Michael Jones
2020-04-23 21:03               ` Alec Ten Harmsel
2020-04-23 23:55                 ` Caveman Al Toraboran
2020-04-24 21:23               ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-26 14:23                 ` Caveman Al Toraboran
2020-04-26 15:05                   ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-04-23 20:10     ` Steven Lembark
2020-04-23 20:12       ` Consus
2020-04-22  8:58 ` Alexandru N. Barloiu
2020-04-22 14:29 ` Kent Fredric
2020-04-22 16:24 ` james
2020-04-25 18:04   ` Fernando Reyes
2020-04-25 18:30     ` Caveman Al Toraboran
2020-05-07  3:14 ` Pengcheng Xu
2020-05-07  3:39   ` Dale
2020-05-07  3:55     ` Pengcheng Xu
2020-05-07  5:23     ` Gerrit Kuehn
2020-05-07 14:21     ` hitachi303
2020-05-07 15:15       ` Dale
2020-05-07 15:19         ` Petr Vaněk
2020-05-07 15:23           ` Dale
2020-05-07 15:29             ` Petr Vaněk
2020-05-07 15:36               ` Dale
2020-05-07 15:04     ` james [this message]

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