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Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------B58E87419142304B945B9525" X-Archives-Salt: 61a02efc-71cd-4053-b9cd-0e0669d1ade8 X-Archives-Hash: 3a3a0d052ad876ae3d2a8b74871b5d9f This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------B58E87419142304B945B9525 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit n952162 wrote: > > Thank you, that was good. > > I had /usr/share/gimp/2.0/, now, after (3 hours of) emerging > gimp-help, I also have help/en/ > > Unfortunately, I still get the same error msg. > > Here are my USE flags: > > /* Found these USE flags for media-gfx/gimp-2.10.8-r1:// > // U I// > // - - aalib                    : Add support for media-libs/aalib > (ASCII-Graphics Library)// > // - - alsa                     : Add support for media-libs/alsa-lib > (Advanced Linux Sound// > //                                Architecture)// > // + + cpu_flags_x86_mmx        : Use the MMX instruction set// > // + + cpu_flags_x86_sse        : Use the SSE instruction set// > // - - debug                    : Enable extra debug codepaths, like > asserts and extra output.// > //                                If you want to get meaningful > backtraces see https://wiki.ge// > //                                > ntoo.org/wiki/Project:Quality_Assurance/Backtraces// > // + + doc                      : Add extra documentation (API, > Javadoc, etc). It is// > //                                recommended to enable per package > instead of globally// > // - - gnome                    : Add GNOME support// > // - - heif                     : Enable support for ISO/IEC > 23008-12:2017 HEIF files // > // - - jpeg2k                   : Support for JPEG 2000, a > wavelet-based image compression// > //                                format// > // - - mng                      : Add support for libmng (MNG images)// > // - - openexr                  : Support for the OpenEXR graphics > file format// > // - - postscript               : Enable support for the PostScript > language (often with// > //                                ghostscript-gpl or libspectre)// > // - - python                   : Add optional support/bindings for > the Python language// > // + + python_targets_python2_7 : Build with Python 2.7// > // - - test                     : Enable dependencies and/or > preparations necessary to run// > //                                tests (usually controlled by > FEATURES=test but can be// > //                                toggled independently)// > // - - udev                     : Enable virtual/udev integration > (device discovery, power and// > //                                storage device support, etc)// > // - - unwind                   : Add support for call stack unwinding > and function name// > //                                resolution// > // - - vector-icons             : Enable support for vector icons > (experimental) // > // - - webp                     : Add support for the WebP image format// > // - - wmf                      : Add support for the Windows Metafile > vector image format// > // - - xpm                      : Add support for XPM graphics format/ > > I have the feeling that, when gimp didn't see the help/ dir the first > time, it set something, microsoft-like, in persistant storage, and > doesn't even try to look locally anymore. > > And why it can't access the xml file, which is there, I have no idea.  > But I see no flags that look related to GIO or GVFS. > > You have a lot of flags set... I hope I don't have to set those all, > just to see if it helps... > > Actually, I think the relevant flags are set.  That made me want to go look elsewhere based on your idea that it changed a setting when you didn't have the docs installed.  I went to Preferences, expand Interface if needed then select Help System.  Here, I have the following checked. Show tooltips and Show help buttons.  For User Manual drop menu, mine is set to Use a locally installed copy and below that User interface language. The rest shouldn't matter.  See if that helps.  Maybe one of those settings got flipped around. Dale :-)  :-)  --------------B58E87419142304B945B9525 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
n952162 wrote:

Thank you, that was good.

I had /usr/share/gimp/2.0/, now, after (3 hours of) emerging gimp-help, I also have help/en/

Unfortunately, I still get the same error msg.

Here are my USE flags:

* Found these USE flags for media-gfx/gimp-2.10.8-r1:
 U I
 - - aalib                    : Add support for media-libs/aalib (ASCII-Graphics Library)
 - - alsa                     : Add support for media-libs/alsa-lib (Advanced Linux Sound
                                Architecture)
 + + cpu_flags_x86_mmx        : Use the MMX instruction set
 + + cpu_flags_x86_sse        : Use the SSE instruction set
 - - debug                    : Enable extra debug codepaths, like asserts and extra output.
                                If you want to get meaningful backtraces see https://wiki.ge
                                ntoo.org/wiki/Project:Quality_Assurance/Backtraces
 + + doc                      : Add extra documentation (API, Javadoc, etc). It is
                                recommended to enable per package instead of globally
 - - gnome                    : Add GNOME support
 - - heif                     : Enable support for ISO/IEC 23008-12:2017 HEIF files
 - - jpeg2k                   : Support for JPEG 2000, a wavelet-based image compression
                                format
 - - mng                      : Add support for libmng (MNG images)
 - - openexr                  : Support for the OpenEXR graphics file format
 - - postscript               : Enable support for the PostScript language (often with
                                ghostscript-gpl or libspectre)
 - - python                   : Add optional support/bindings for the Python language
 + + python_targets_python2_7 : Build with Python 2.7
 - - test                     : Enable dependencies and/or preparations necessary to run
                                tests (usually controlled by FEATURES=test but can be
                                toggled independently)
 - - udev                     : Enable virtual/udev integration (device discovery, power and
                                storage device support, etc)
 - - unwind                   : Add support for call stack unwinding and function name
                                resolution
 - - vector-icons             : Enable support for vector icons (experimental)
 - - webp                     : Add support for the WebP image format
 - - wmf                      : Add support for the Windows Metafile vector image format
 - - xpm                      : Add support for XPM graphics format

I have the feeling that, when gimp didn't see the help/ dir the first time, it set something, microsoft-like, in persistant storage, and doesn't even try to look locally anymore.

And why it can't access the xml file, which is there, I have no idea.  But I see no flags that look related to GIO or GVFS.

You have a lot of flags set... I hope I don't have to set those all, just to see if it helps...



Actually, I think the relevant flags are set.  That made me want to go look elsewhere based on your idea that it changed a setting when you didn't have the docs installed.  I went to Preferences, expand Interface if needed then select Help System.  Here, I have the following checked. Show tooltips and Show help buttons.  For User Manual drop menu, mine is set to Use a locally installed copy and below that User interface language. The rest shouldn't matter. 

See if that helps.  Maybe one of those settings got flipped around.

Dale

:-)  :-) 
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