From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (woodpecker.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3D9711584AD for ; Wed, 07 May 2025 00:17:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lists.gentoo.org (bobolink.gentoo.org [140.211.166.189]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: relay-lists.gentoo.org@gentoo.org) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F2EA63431E4 for ; Wed, 07 May 2025 00:17:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bobolink.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bobolink.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3134F1104A7; Wed, 07 May 2025 00:16:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-io1-xd35.google.com (mail-io1-xd35.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d35]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by bobolink.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1681111036F for ; Wed, 07 May 2025 00:16:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-io1-xd35.google.com with SMTP id ca18e2360f4ac-8613f456960so188526639f.1 for ; Tue, 06 May 2025 17:16:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1746577000; x=1747181800; darn=lists.gentoo.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:mime-version:user-agent:date :message-id:autocrypt:from:references:to:subject:from:to:cc:subject :date:message-id:reply-to; bh=/vPYGlv2HJrnQAOQSNw3lExas/WSVkIfMzzGQV5Q2zI=; b=FfuefTgZhdMIrFC3H578j+zg+h03QWZB92EVL5q0R3mOE2omkRLvi0pWka62WZSrRn 9EUx4n/JcRETeu4fGG65OjQ/OGeFWBCsSv13N7RU3oJTK6C3MDIav38oRaEEnVzYH4XX PiGZso9vnUWcXKfNVxXt+gfy0qQu5jVglOw+7xUyI5M9+MNJ2ZvQTTLMczZb9ABhSgLw V/IgHr+eKvH1zqBMmK4jV/5C7wAec1wl08bi/h6PnOvrL9LDQVfZsqvMEDvzOBRj3g73 olip1jmrIsgQTzY+rqnpHVjOwv0GCitWaWWFfB+ULZimcWFsH4X+whjqBOqBXpwUHUcr lPMg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1746577000; x=1747181800; h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:mime-version:user-agent:date :message-id:autocrypt:from:references:to:subject:x-gm-message-state :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=/vPYGlv2HJrnQAOQSNw3lExas/WSVkIfMzzGQV5Q2zI=; b=mDvQxOLiJZsPmhEU8WOgXpz64ZJYbppQAuU/rVF6OmA3JylotY6BT0Qv5Yl2fLfIV1 S1qfftRZg5KjHC/1fWpxQpQNYXJvimCRl5UvM5G0bVaJ+r/xboP7oqPo2C7vgCLPFW9J ZU+v/1l0lP7B92eUONpVwOpvGPZI5ht6nLOV2CsBekuaJ9rL4N05A5PW0mZN0F1/1xG5 JVbrdBhGJI3smCY9qFK3CrkDeKTdvxkq4euFkHEB4g7XmrUj68kPseBXmVRYRRrrPT7K n4PVPEBUxon2vPCoLgmE0deeHQYV7zoUDqKPkKIhT41TEqsQ+DuZaFJdrhgaWz2fj64U wG5A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Ywoq0l2WttlBt/nWM3T9/ufv35UuTyoCdKNLMrx+IrDjY14QMc7 xjAaIGU3cmDa2ooM+qF1Ft+W4uHdtxbBlgP5hLTz3s6LG0IlWlwh X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncsR4Ux3DeEWIwVKSOU65dL2n3mKCdwqgAXFcxcJfYWyLxETBvSG13+HGsfHJG5 3ykGziz1xuE5mapYQlWVsCakcQH67Uo+vqifcMe9F99BGegHZTndHj+kktluEDv9OROzka7/tAU 8WQtFY7b+n7+C2LkX3/3k0SHi/0xheokQOJcUqgB6LLJQ7wm5WD4ylYtcMUwOoaY8p0/FXFJfkv ae0/KhvPC+6wAP2mBh/+JJ4DsPDxXJNxy4G03E1TRFFqDyg03dAH4zgGIBAjFoxJJ8+nnPgQngr jjRh4XmHcWly/FBqpsdwRuQbpeAf3cPn1fSo2vsSIPQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHxbfP6fpN5tvBJ9T1rfCEtCNwbJDH0hu1yhIptB/l7BpUQLKKntlCi6B7Ty1xU4NxF/gW0vA== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6e02:18ca:b0:3d8:1ea5:26d1 with SMTP id e9e14a558f8ab-3da7392fec9mr14293125ab.18.1746576999915; Tue, 06 May 2025 17:16:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.8.8.13] ([169.150.231.195]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e9e14a558f8ab-3d975e7808esm27049935ab.25.2025.05.06.17.16.38 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 06 May 2025 17:16:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New hard drive. Is this normal? It looks like a connect problem. To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <378bb608-5ded-a733-06b3-26f6bc6a26cc@gmail.com> <4981413.GXAFRqVoOG@rogueboard> <348d3e3c-1084-013e-1a29-0cf1668c5b7e@gmail.com> <2003865.PYKUYFuaPT@rogueboard> <59aa965f-a298-8f42-5df3-bd42278bd94e@gmail.com> <7ed62ad2-c2b1-4f05-ad75-641f951e740d@youngman.org.uk> From: Dale Autocrypt: addr=rdalek1967@gmail.com; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mQINBGFSciYBEADcEGMyJBSuavKO/XKUVvgkxck7Nl8Iuu8N2lcnRji/rSKg5c1Acix1ll9i oW8JBCHwvn0+Xy60BvEsqcup3YSHw5STl/bR1ePEehtnYrg8FdjdS91+B805RfnKMm69rFVI wLSBHQrSG1yxHd8CloWoEdhmVtP24buajbh114bgXd9ahtpZrCVMrWdWYUg2mEXguGV5uNAh Rf8SWxDNc79w24JxsV34a8niMUYMjzWr0rafIbzk732X38vGjVMLo/2mMpkbp9mPp++LHoY+ 0Pet8zxxdXPJSCd475kza1AD+hhSyBZXB9yknYWgyY3cZe1rGmooJSi2KX4QxO7npwLThcO1 be6KKRkd35+Fi/a1BzVOHsZMiK/gcwxEFoMd27gir4ehaeHJfFXl+65w4hj0EsOZSxrJrm2C R50g5By2czSKP1bADEygFNpIJj51AR+wM88NImG2RPtlT2maYBzazvF05g65cdHXGp1C7W5P wwwKU2DgABB2t7N7z5A69LnryBRw4zUYDRRYLTYlBlYgg+xILm2c0OrBdxJgLJa7JE50Eo25 d3PFwt9J0gYvqy6sPFLl9So0sDg9zm0hKQtXOP5kgropUFGrNoJI+mjwF4rYLRBVzZwNAvlO OhEvHubBo3mEllv4x+FeptwXZxlk7gUsdqI8AxnFB8K9wi6FVQARAQABtBtEYWxlIDxyZGFs ZWsxOTY3QGdtYWlsLmNvbT6JAk4EEwEIADgCGyMFCwkIBwIGFQoJCAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AW IQQSG1h01ruv/WNXc3Q3RqOgiQH1GwUCYVJy8gAKCRA3RqOgiQH1G+waEACeTZCt77jnRAmQ AV7otKuZekDWiLi3Eig8tj5ZJiCNSYA/hIxzmexRP0GMqjitcXK1iGwWcvMzzvIq30GAjIfB 4BR38cnXbtBa6fNewiT7QaZe/Hn6yBRldXNQypzbHy+/o27bUEy+oX4rE7etUgEHQAjuw7xz XFWg4tH1/KJvsOVY5upnWc5LdxYhsuQ3dQD4b22GsK0pOBDfb9PiirYM8eGKvrVuq4E/c75z lDDFhINl18lNZ9D0ZFL3IkTjHsAAqFH9uhnnEB8CWdHbBewPEfRaOhBUYWZ3Q8uTkmDgZT8q D9jlvLEdw7Nh2ApdxoepnI/4D+ql2Gr4DtH7SEPydr5gcf1Qr/2bXRb1hAYnIVcbncs/Bm3Z bkRKPVWMfE3Fusa+p5hMzixk0YysMaTHlc7mYRYAEZGnPMXnmcCbetwARU7A0yz1M1kCMOAQ Lsz8KH5kv3cRenMB6SFfjND2JfAK61H5TtnPq3L8noS2ZykRYxq9Nm3X64O1tJojIKBoZFr8 AwYNCvqC6puUyGMuzHPh7jPof8glfrrEKIYUvNPGMDoVX3IGetxh/9l6NcxgFA4JGoR+LS3C zmeNrwlllAe3OEUfKoWVQ+pagpSdM+8hHolaSda4Ys66Z3fCR4ZvcTqfhTAVskpqdXa4isAk 7vTcXu3L499ttywEp7rJTbkCDQRhUnImARAAncUdVhmtRr59zqpTUppKroQYlzR0jv8oa7DG K4gakTAT2N7evnI9wpssmzyVk8VEiLzhnFQ/Ol3FRt6hZCXDJt0clyHOyTfvz/MNFttWuZTc mLpSvmRR6VRjAH+Tz3Eam2xUw3PGuH97BcXQ3NnX3msv1UDxtxxBu6e2YrdeOhrCUSgzokcJ 98ChUNy934cgepPybAI12lSWqVFQ1aG7jExZfiUk+333fPSDbpKoZbTW5YJLXbycmW/C1IWL qYQyNjRWKaGoJtUWFhhmNiOQct7n90aKivNVPavmN+UQ9LlMaINtf9T6XCzLfogCFsulDCDJ 0yNQLDTurHaB4E71xoctgXmLLq9z1RQ0W2XiVAAOZQj6K3+d0AOUjDhCQ2QW8dUSq0ckkZXV DKVJOGS8Nhf2eIWIqRnP3AcUiiaiFGqUaVUmUAZ6h/oJmgghEu/1S+pcuUKU5i69+XCZ3hH2 Jzwzbf7K+FAIkOhCfHncF8i1N1pk00pOVykNnqHTfFo3qFusHt0ZWgXVnnn4pYdXqZNoDhvF BRE5Vm4k/k96Pw8HRx6Os6eFSRrlqGzRgqsu86FekxusXB9UGv4lJhtU/J+8MRWsh22K718s DbQnABicGKFz1qQlWvcf59oTByhLINJCBt1WXl+TzJDXepr3QSkqmK41dO9Hob97C9dMiK8A EQEAAYkCNgQYAQgAIAIbDBYhBBIbWHTWu6/9Y1dzdDdGo6CJAfUbBQJhUnLyAAoJEDdGo6CJ AfUbVHIQAKSWw620vPhR3A/njU2z77F3z/Jk+HTKdE3fIyWSWdkYN7CBFL0NguOMP30WZ+qE sJhZu7T5hf251MwQUUt27xlfnKYOmQs7CqONlXuXlGZI6WufrUjxNcVz+5gJsqvUWuuJWsgg sDmE92IBnfG/f81fPHWQyfr/SF4wYDMyoFp5xCCQpp1zB63iuFvvrhxBkEHzmbRtVDOhl0Xp BVEDR1w3QRACw9QJD/KM05Czv9JNQYlwinWO/OaQ9cMlUpKLgswUPg9IZ5vucxScfuAUA5uC B1jlAQ8ZPlVukBmbEv5RGOv+lpuEbA3YDMVtEeH4YMFbjt/+vH3Cr2vTbp5JlpByLburJEH0 WXZLUawEfUsZvVwpOuJK75vaa2HYXee+Cb3iCIzwfIfctdlqzUcbGRczlRNM59hpvj4z29Gh 3kAxVHItAYq54ikxQ9l4hQ8s9sLYPbX/WtcBxNX8crBSw0FLnmzGleVEtBHyqtt5CLzQNgrj GYWl1vKDUmRPw1CdZ1c+fMN9CY11jOM5B5ZnqZWfDeVYO2iJ5SuvTycChexCb8WYn1bdCBIo bBtga2RBXbVt4Mh9E4owsszefn51MwfjXxB20Fc5k3GU1AVpTCMs3ayYCzo0b2pvEvdjtDcA CYLEFPWgaFX9iQAM/CDfKvTtvgGWpqtCL2raq/mQoJEU Message-ID: Date: Tue, 6 May 2025 19:16:37 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:128.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/128.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.20 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7ed62ad2-c2b1-4f05-ad75-641f951e740d@youngman.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: 907af37a-00b0-49d2-8682-ea423a123f1b X-Archives-Hash: cdf777790be9a2bae50316a498f71b76 Wol wrote: > On 06/05/2025 21:51, Dale wrote: >> So far, this is the first drive I've ever seen this 'slow to respond' >> message with before.  Since I've never seen it before, curious as to >> what it means exactly and is it normal?  Searching didn't help.  Some >> claim kernel, others claim something else. > > Did you ADD that drive to all the others when it came up with that > message? Is it possible that the drain of that extra drive caused a > brown-out in the enclosure? > > I know I've had systems where the power had trips in to bring the > drives up with random delays (mini-computers) because the system was > quite capable of powering running drives, but couldn't provide the > necessary boot-up surge to all the drives simultaneously. > > Cheers, > Wol > > . > The other drives are in the safe.  The only drives connected are the SSD for the OS and this one drive.  Originally, I was going to use the external enclosure connected to my main rig to just test the drive.  When I saw the slow data connection speed, I removed it from the enclosure and hooked it to the NAS box.  I wanted to be sure it was the enclosure causing the slow data connection.  It appears that enclosure is SATA 2 or something.  Anyway, it was when I connected to the NAS box as a bare drive that I noticed the slow to respond message.  It may have been there on my main rig as well but I just didn't notice it.  I usually use tail -f to watch and hit the return key a few times to separate what I want to watch from the normal logging.  It may have done the same on my main rig and I missed it.  I sometimes forget to hit return a few times.  At this point, I don't know if I should return this drive or keep it as is.  I don't know if this is a problem with this drive or normal for some drives to be slow to respond at times.  I don't recall ever seeing it before.  Dale :-)  :-)