[gentoo-user] Adobe Flash replacement ?

[gentoo-user] Adobe Flash replacement ?

[James]

Hello,

I was just reading about "lighspark" [1] and at first glance, it seems
to be a replacement for adobe flash with support for the latest 
features. Lightspark can be found with::
'eix -R lightspark'


You may also need to run 'eix-remote update' if you have not updated
that database of extended-availability packages......
So anyone tried lightspark with mozilla browers (seamonkey, ff, etc)?



Granted we all just wish flash would go away and be replaced by something
else that is open source. But, I need to view some flash deliverables
on a routine basis:: so this post is about better support for flash
in browsers. I am really tired of adobe-flash.


[1] http://lightspark.github.io/

Re: [gentoo-user] Adobe Flash replacement ?

[Marc Joliet]

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On Thursday 22 October 2015 18:01:10 James wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I was just reading about "lighspark" [1] and at first glance, it seems
>to be a replacement for adobe flash with support for the latest
>features. Lightspark can be found with::
>'eix -R lightspark'
>
>
>You may also need to run 'eix-remote update' if you have not updated
>that database of extended-availability packages......
>So anyone tried lightspark with mozilla browers (seamonkey, ff, etc)?
>
>
>
>Granted we all just wish flash would go away and be replaced by something
>else that is open source. But, I need to view some flash deliverables
>on a routine basis:: so this post is about better support for flash
>in browsers. I am really tired of adobe-flash.
>
>
>[1] http://lightspark.github.io/

I tried that a good while ago, but at the time I had no luck.  However, that 
was a few years ago.

Personally, I actually uninstalled adobe-flash almost exactly two weeks and 2 
hours ago :-) .  I haven't really missed it, and youtube-dl (well, mpv's 
built-in youtube-dl support) helps with the few sites that still don't support 
HTML5 video.  I practically never encounter any other type of flash content. 
(I consciously decided that I don't care about flash games, so they don't 
count.)

One other interesting project in the direction of replacing adobe-flash is 
Mozilla's Shumway, which is, AIUI, basically a Flash interpreter written in 
JavaScript.  With it, you wouldn't even need a browser plug-in.  It is 
considered an experiment, though.  See the following links:

https://blog.mozilla.org/research/2012/11/12/introducing-the-shumway-open-swf-runtime-project/
http://benjamin.smedbergs.us/blog/2012-11-12/shumway-a-swf-interpreter-entirely-in-javascript/
http://www.areweflashyet.com/shumway/
https://github.com/mozilla/shumway/wiki

-- 
Marc Joliet
--
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Re: [gentoo-user] Adobe Flash replacement ?

[Pavel Volkov]

On четверг, 22 октября 2015 г. 22:38:50 MSK, Marc Joliet wrote:
> I tried that a good while ago, but at the time I had no luck.  
> However, that 
> was a few years ago.
>
> Personally, I actually uninstalled adobe-flash almost exactly 
> two weeks and 2 
> hours ago :-) .  I haven't really missed it, and youtube-dl (well, mpv's 
> built-in youtube-dl support) helps with the few sites that 
> still don't support 
> HTML5 video.  I practically never encounter any other type of 
> flash content. 
> (I consciously decided that I don't care about flash games, so they don't 
> count.)

I also tried Lightspark several times, I wouldn't consider it ready to use.
As for Flash content, I ocasionally come across it: speedtest.net for 
example or many Japanese websites...
I run Flash content in Chromium which has its own plugin for it (installed 
with package www-plugins/chrome-binary-plugins).

Re: [gentoo-user] Adobe Flash replacement ?

[Peter Humphrey]

On Thursday 22 October 2015 21:38:50 Marc Joliet wrote:

> Personally, I actually uninstalled adobe-flash almost exactly two weeks and
> 2 hours ago :-) .  I haven't really missed it, and youtube-dl (well, mpv's
> built-in youtube-dl support) helps with the few sites that still don't
> support HTML5 video.  I practically never encounter any other type of flash
> content. (I consciously decided that I don't care about flash games, so
> they don't count.)

Where I live, BBC Radio 3 is not receivable by direct broadcast, so I use the 
iPlayer daily to listen to it on my desktop box. It won't work without flash, 
so until the BBC change their ways I'm stuck with it. I did try radiotray some 
time ago, but I like the text and pictures that come with the iPlayer.

(Sorry about all the confusing pronouns.)

-- 
Rgds
Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] Adobe Flash replacement ?

[Mick]

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On Friday 23 Oct 2015 10:24:42 Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Thursday 22 October 2015 21:38:50 Marc Joliet wrote:
> > Personally, I actually uninstalled adobe-flash almost exactly two weeks
> > and 2 hours ago :-) .  I haven't really missed it, and youtube-dl (well,
> > mpv's built-in youtube-dl support) helps with the few sites that still
> > don't support HTML5 video.  I practically never encounter any other type
> > of flash content. (I consciously decided that I don't care about flash
> > games, so they don't count.)
> 
> Where I live, BBC Radio 3 is not receivable by direct broadcast, so I use
> the iPlayer daily to listen to it on my desktop box. It won't work without
> flash, so until the BBC change their ways I'm stuck with it. I did try
> radiotray some time ago, but I like the text and pictures that come with
> the iPlayer.
> 
> (Sorry about all the confusing pronouns.)

There are shoutcasts and all sorts of HLS, HDS alternative methods to stream 
to your PC, not utilising flash.  There is also get_iplayer with its recording 
capability, which I prefer ;-)

http://www.infradead.org/get_iplayer/html/get_iplayer.html

-- 
Regards,
Mick

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[gentoo-user] Re: Adobe Flash replacement ?

[James]

Mick <michaelkintzios <at> gmail.com> writes:


> http://www.infradead.org/get_iplayer/html/get_iplayer.html


Thanks to all that responed. As a 'consumer' I cannot dictate what
folks use; it looks like all the choices for viewing adobe-flash
are less than robust, or did I miss something?

@ google:: no more, to much big brah for me.

@ others:: the owners of the sources still use adobe flash
so changing that is their decision and a non-starter.

@ competing solutions:: still a work in progress...


Thanks for the all the input.

have a good weekend,
James