* [gentoo-user] my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong? @ 2009-10-09 14:46 Denis 2009-10-09 15:09 ` Volker Armin Hemmann 0 siblings, 1 reply; 39+ messages in thread From: Denis @ 2009-10-09 14:46 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user I am running the xorg-server-1.6, to which I just upgraded, and kernel 2.6.27-gentoo-r8, and I am having an issue with the server crashing whenever I try to drag the scroll bar within Mathematica - which never happened to me before with previous xorg-servers, and I use Mathematica extensively. So I just wanted to ask some questions to see if any of the warnings and errors I am seeing in the log may actually cause X to be unstable... 1. In the log (see below), Xorg shows an error trying to load dri... Since I have nvidia and glx and don't have dri, I don't have the dri drivers, so how can I stop Xorg from trying to load dri/dri2? 2. I get a warning: (--) PCI:*(0:1:0:0) 10de:01d1:0000:0000 nVidia Corporation G72 [GeForce 7300 LE] rev 161, Mem @ 0x91000000/16777216, 0x80000000/268435456, 0x90000000/16777216 (WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory) (II) No APM support in BIOS or kernel Will this make X unstable in any way? 3. Are the freetype and type1 modules now incorporated into X or phased out? Here is my xorg.conf: ===================================== Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "X.org Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection Section "Files" ModulePath "/usr/lib/xorg/modules" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/ttf-bitstream-vera/" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/default/ghostscript/" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/corefonts/" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/cyrillic/" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/dejavu/" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/freefonts/" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/intlfonts/" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/terminus/" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/unifont/" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Mathematica/AFM/" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Mathematica/BDF/" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Mathematica/Type1/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "record" Load "extmod" Load "dbe" Load "glx" #Load "type1" #Load "freetype" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "Sony" ModelName "G520" DisplaySize 405 305 EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Card0" Driver "nvidia" VendorName "nVidia Corporation" BoardName "GeForce 7300 LE" BusID "PCI:1:0:0" Option "UseEdidDpi" "FALSE" # Option "DPI" "100 x 100" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor "Monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 16 EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Viewport 0 0 Depth 24 Modes "1600x1200" EndSubSection EndSection ==================================== And here is the Xorg.0.log file: ==================================== X.Org X Server 1.6.3.901 (1.6.4 RC 1) Release Date: 2009-8-25 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.27-gentoo-r8 i686 Current Operating System: Linux langevin 2.6.27-gentoo-r8 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Feb 28 18:50:18 EST 2009 i686 Build Date: 08 October 2009 11:20:23AM Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Fri Oct 9 10:33:25 2009 (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" (==) ServerLayout "X.org Configured" (**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0) (**) | |-->Monitor "Monitor0" (**) | |-->Device "Card0" (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0" (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0" (==) Not automatically adding devices (==) Not automatically enabling devices (**) FontPath set to: /usr/share/fonts/misc/:unscaled, /usr/share/fonts/Type1/, /usr/share/fonts/ttf-bitstream-vera/, /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled, /usr/share/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled, /usr/share/fonts/default/ghostscript/, /usr/share/fonts/corefonts/, /usr/share/fonts/cyrillic/, /usr/share/fonts/dejavu/, /usr/share/fonts/freefonts/, /usr/share/fonts/intlfonts/, /usr/share/fonts/terminus/, /usr/share/fonts/unifont/, /usr/share/fonts/Mathematica/AFM/, /usr/share/fonts/Mathematica/BDF/, /usr/share/fonts/Mathematica/Type1/, /usr/share/fonts/misc/, /usr/share/fonts/TTF/, /usr/share/fonts/OTF, /usr/share/fonts/Type1/, /usr/share/fonts/100dpi/, /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/ (**) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules" (II) Loader magic: 0x1ea0 (II) Module ABI versions: X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 X.Org Video Driver: 5.0 X.Org XInput driver : 4.0 X.Org Server Extension : 2.0 (II) Loader running on linux (++) using VT number 9 (--) PCI:*(0:1:0:0) 10de:01d1:0000:0000 nVidia Corporation G72 [GeForce 7300 LE] rev 161, Mem @ 0x91000000/16777216, 0x80000000/268435456, 0x90000000/16777216 (WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory) (II) No APM support in BIOS or kernel (II) System resource ranges: [0] -1 0 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[B] [1] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [2] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [5] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX[B] (II) "extmod" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. (II) "dbe" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. (II) "glx" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. (II) "record" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file. (II) "dri" will be loaded by default. (II) "dri2" will be loaded by default. (II) LoadModule: "record" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//librecord.so (II) Module record: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.6.3.901, module version = 1.13.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension RECORD (II) LoadModule: "extmod" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libextmod.so (II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.6.3.901, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA (II) Loading extension DPMS (II) Loading extension XVideo (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation (II) Loading extension X-Resource (II) LoadModule: "dbe" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdbe.so (II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.6.3.901, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER (II) LoadModule: "glx" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so (II) Module glx: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation" compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Server Extension (II) NVIDIA GLX Module 180.60 Tue May 12 12:42:34 PDT 2009 (II) Loading extension GLX (II) LoadModule: "dri" (WW) Warning, couldn't open module dri (II) UnloadModule: "dri" (EE) Failed to load module "dri" (module does not exist, 0) (II) LoadModule: "dri2" (WW) Warning, couldn't open module dri2 (II) UnloadModule: "dri2" (EE) Failed to load module "dri2" (module does not exist, 0) (II) LoadModule: "nvidia" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nvidia_drv.so (II) Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation" compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Video Driver (II) LoadModule: "mouse" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input//mouse_drv.so (II) Module mouse: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.6.3.901, module version = 1.4.0 Module class: X.Org XInput Driver ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 4.0 (II) LoadModule: "kbd" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input//kbd_drv.so (II) Module kbd: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.6.3.901, module version = 1.3.2 Module class: X.Org XInput Driver ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 4.0 (II) NVIDIA dlloader X Driver 180.60 Tue May 12 12:18:36 PDT 2009 (II) NVIDIA Unified Driver for all Supported NVIDIA GPUs (II) Primary Device is: PCI 01@00:00:0 (II) Loading sub module "fb" (II) LoadModule: "fb" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libfb.so (II) Module fb: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.6.3.901, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4 (II) Loading sub module "wfb" (II) LoadModule: "wfb" (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libwfb.so (II) Module wfb: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.6.3.901, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4 (II) Loading sub module "ramdac" (II) LoadModule: "ramdac" (II) Module "ramdac" already built-in (II) resource ranges after probing: [0] -1 0 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[B] [1] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [2] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [5] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX[B] (**) NVIDIA(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32 (==) NVIDIA(0): RGB weight 888 (==) NVIDIA(0): Default visual is TrueColor (==) NVIDIA(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) (**) NVIDIA(0): Option "UseEdidDpi" "FALSE" (**) NVIDIA(0): Enabling RENDER acceleration (II) NVIDIA(0): Support for GLX with the Damage and Composite X extensions is (II) NVIDIA(0): enabled. (II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA GPU GeForce 7300 LE (G72) at PCI:1:0:0 (GPU-0) (--) NVIDIA(0): Memory: 524288 kBytes (--) NVIDIA(0): VideoBIOS: 05.72.22.43.01 (II) NVIDIA(0): Detected PCI Express Link width: 16X (--) NVIDIA(0): Interlaced video modes are supported on this GPU (--) NVIDIA(0): Connected display device(s) on GeForce 7300 LE at PCI:1:0:0: (--) NVIDIA(0): NEC AccuSync 120 (CRT-0) (--) NVIDIA(0): NEC AccuSync 120 (CRT-0): 400.0 MHz maximum pixel clock (II) NVIDIA(0): Assigned Display Device: CRT-0 (II) NVIDIA(0): Validated modes: (II) NVIDIA(0): "1600x1200" (II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be 1600 x 1200 (**) NVIDIA(0): DPI set to (100, 99); computed from "DisplaySize" Monitor (**) NVIDIA(0): section option (==) NVIDIA(0): Enabling 32-bit ARGB GLX visuals. (--) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp (II) do I need RAC? No, I don't. (II) resource ranges after preInit: [0] -1 0 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[B] [1] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] [2] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] [4] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] [5] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX[B] (II) NVIDIA(0): Initialized GPU GART. (II) NVIDIA(0): ACPI: failed to connect to the ACPI event daemon; the daemon (II) NVIDIA(0): may not be running or the "AcpidSocketPath" X (II) NVIDIA(0): configuration option may not be set correctly. When the (II) NVIDIA(0): ACPI event daemon is available, the NVIDIA X driver will (II) NVIDIA(0): try to use it to receive ACPI event notifications. For (II) NVIDIA(0): details, please see the "ConnectToAcpid" and (II) NVIDIA(0): "AcpidSocketPath" X configuration options in Appendix B: X (II) NVIDIA(0): Config Options in the README. (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "1600x1200" (II) Loading extension NV-GLX (II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA 3D Acceleration Architecture Initialized (==) NVIDIA(0): Disabling shared memory pixmaps (II) NVIDIA(0): Using the NVIDIA 2D acceleration architecture (==) NVIDIA(0): Backing store disabled (==) NVIDIA(0): Silken mouse enabled (II) NVIDIA(0): DPMS enabled (II) Loading extension NV-CONTROL (II) Loading extension XINERAMA (==) RandR enabled (II) Initializing built-in extension Generic Event Extension (II) Initializing built-in extension SHAPE (II) Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM (II) Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension (II) Initializing built-in extension XTEST (II) Initializing built-in extension BIG-REQUESTS (II) Initializing built-in extension SYNC (II) Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD (II) Initializing built-in extension XC-MISC (II) Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA (II) Initializing built-in extension XFIXES (II) Initializing built-in extension RENDER (II) Initializing built-in extension RANDR (II) Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE (II) Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE (II) Initializing extension GLX (**) Option "Protocol" "auto" (**) Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" (II) Mouse0: Setting mouse protocol to "ExplorerPS/2" (**) Mouse0: Device: "/dev/input/mice" (**) Mouse0: Protocol: "auto" (**) Option "CorePointer" (**) Mouse0: always reports core events (**) Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" (==) Mouse0: Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 50 (**) Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" (**) Mouse0: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4, 5, 6 and 7 (**) Mouse0: Buttons: 11 (**) Mouse0: Sensitivity: 1 (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Mouse0" (type: MOUSE) (**) Mouse0: (accel) keeping acceleration scheme 1 (**) Mouse0: (accel) filter chain progression: 2.00 (**) Mouse0: (accel) filter stage 0: 20.00 ms (**) Mouse0: (accel) set acceleration profile 0 (II) Mouse0: Setting mouse protocol to "ExplorerPS/2" (II) Mouse0: ps2EnableDataReporting: succeeded (**) Option "CoreKeyboard" (**) Keyboard0: always reports core events (**) Option "Protocol" "standard" (**) Keyboard0: Protocol: standard (**) Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30" (**) Option "XkbRules" "xorg" (**) Keyboard0: XkbRules: "xorg" (**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105" (**) Keyboard0: XkbModel: "pc105" (**) Option "XkbLayout" "us" (**) Keyboard0: XkbLayout: "us" (**) Option "CustomKeycodes" "off" (**) Keyboard0: CustomKeycodes disabled (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Keyboard0" (type: KEYBOARD) (II) 3rd Button detected: disabling emulate3Button ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong? 2009-10-09 14:46 [gentoo-user] my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong? Denis @ 2009-10-09 15:09 ` Volker Armin Hemmann 2009-10-09 15:20 ` Denis 0 siblings, 1 reply; 39+ messages in thread From: Volker Armin Hemmann @ 2009-10-09 15:09 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user On Freitag 09 Oktober 2009, Denis wrote: > I am running the xorg-server-1.6, to which I just upgraded, and kernel > 2.6.27-gentoo-r8, and I am having an issue with the server crashing > whenever I try to drag the scroll bar within Mathematica - which never > happened to me before with previous xorg-servers, and I use > Mathematica extensively. So I just wanted to ask some questions to > see if any of the warnings and errors I am seeing in the log may > actually cause X to be unstable... > > 1. In the log (see below), Xorg shows an error trying to load dri... > Since I have nvidia and glx and don't have dri, I don't have the dri > drivers, so how can I stop Xorg from trying to load dri/dri2? > > 2. I get a warning: > > (--) PCI:*(0:1:0:0) 10de:01d1:0000:0000 nVidia Corporation G72 > [GeForce 7300 LE] rev 161, Mem @ 0x91000000/16777216, > 0x80000000/268435456, 0x90000000/16777216 > (WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory) > (II) No APM support in BIOS or kernel > > Will this make X unstable in any way? no. That messages have no influence at all. > > 3. Are the freetype and type1 modules now incorporated into X or phased > out? > > > Here is my xorg.conf: now let us remove all the stuff you don't need. > ===================================== > Section "ServerLayout" > Identifier "X.org Configured" > Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 > InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer" > InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" > EndSection > > Section "Files" > EndSection > > Section "Module" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Keyboard0" > Driver "kbd" > EndSection > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Mouse0" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "auto" > Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" > Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" > EndSection > > Section "Monitor" > Identifier "Monitor0" > VendorName "Sony" > ModelName "G520" > EndSection > > Section "Device" > Identifier "Card0" > Driver "nvidia" > VendorName "nVidia Corporation" > BoardName "GeForce 7300 LE" > BusID "PCI:1:0:0" > Option "UseEdidDpi" "FALSE" why? > # Option "DPI" "100 x 100" > EndSection > > Section "Screen" > Identifier "Screen0" > Device "Card0" > Monitor "Monitor0" > DefaultDepth 24 > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 16 > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" > Viewport 0 0 > Depth 24 > Modes "1600x1200" > EndSubSection > EndSection > ==================================== > > And here is the Xorg.0.log file: > ==================================== > X.Org X Server 1.6.3.901 (1.6.4 RC 1) > Release Date: 2009-8-25 > X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 > Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.27-gentoo-r8 i686 > Current Operating System: Linux langevin 2.6.27-gentoo-r8 #1 SMP > PREEMPT Sat Feb 28 18:50:18 EST 2009 i686 > Build Date: 08 October 2009 11:20:23AM > > Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org > to make sure that you have the latest version. > Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, > (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, > (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. > (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Fri Oct 9 10:33:25 2009 > (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" > (==) ServerLayout "X.org Configured" > (**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0) > (**) | |-->Monitor "Monitor0" > (**) | |-->Device "Card0" > (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0" > (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0" > (==) Not automatically adding devices > (==) Not automatically enabling devices > (**) FontPath set to: > /usr/share/fonts/misc/:unscaled, > /usr/share/fonts/Type1/, > /usr/share/fonts/ttf-bitstream-vera/, > /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled, > /usr/share/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled, > /usr/share/fonts/default/ghostscript/, > /usr/share/fonts/corefonts/, > /usr/share/fonts/cyrillic/, > /usr/share/fonts/dejavu/, > /usr/share/fonts/freefonts/, > /usr/share/fonts/intlfonts/, > /usr/share/fonts/terminus/, > /usr/share/fonts/unifont/, > /usr/share/fonts/Mathematica/AFM/, > /usr/share/fonts/Mathematica/BDF/, > /usr/share/fonts/Mathematica/Type1/, > /usr/share/fonts/misc/, > /usr/share/fonts/TTF/, > /usr/share/fonts/OTF, > /usr/share/fonts/Type1/, > /usr/share/fonts/100dpi/, > /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/ > (**) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules" > (II) Loader magic: 0x1ea0 > (II) Module ABI versions: > X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 > X.Org Video Driver: 5.0 > X.Org XInput driver : 4.0 > X.Org Server Extension : 2.0 > (II) Loader running on linux > (++) using VT number 9 > > (--) PCI:*(0:1:0:0) 10de:01d1:0000:0000 nVidia Corporation G72 > [GeForce 7300 LE] rev 161, Mem @ 0x91000000/16777216, > 0x80000000/268435456, 0x90000000/16777216 > (WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory) > (II) No APM support in BIOS or kernel > (II) System resource ranges: > [0] -1 0 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[B] > [1] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] > [2] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] > [3] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] > [4] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] > [5] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX[B] > (II) "extmod" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also > specified in the config file. > (II) "dbe" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also > specified in the config file. > (II) "glx" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also > specified in the config file. > (II) "record" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also > specified in the config file. > (II) "dri" will be loaded by default. > (II) "dri2" will be loaded by default. > (II) LoadModule: "record" > (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//librecord.so > (II) Module record: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 1.6.3.901, module version = 1.13.0 > Module class: X.Org Server Extension > ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 > (II) Loading extension RECORD > (II) LoadModule: "extmod" > (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libextmod.so > (II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 1.6.3.901, module version = 1.0.0 > Module class: X.Org Server Extension > ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 > (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER > (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension > (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA > (II) Loading extension DPMS > (II) Loading extension XVideo > (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation > (II) Loading extension X-Resource > (II) LoadModule: "dbe" > (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdbe.so > (II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 1.6.3.901, module version = 1.0.0 > Module class: X.Org Server Extension > ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0 > (II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER > (II) LoadModule: "glx" > (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so > (II) Module glx: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation" > compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0 > Module class: X.Org Server Extension > (II) NVIDIA GLX Module 180.60 Tue May 12 12:42:34 PDT 2009 > (II) Loading extension GLX > (II) LoadModule: "dri" > (WW) Warning, couldn't open module dri > (II) UnloadModule: "dri" > (EE) Failed to load module "dri" (module does not exist, 0) > (II) LoadModule: "dri2" > (WW) Warning, couldn't open module dri2 > (II) UnloadModule: "dri2" > (EE) Failed to load module "dri2" (module does not exist, 0) > (II) LoadModule: "nvidia" > (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//nvidia_drv.so > (II) Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation" > compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0 > Module class: X.Org Video Driver > (II) LoadModule: "mouse" > (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input//mouse_drv.so > (II) Module mouse: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 1.6.3.901, module version = 1.4.0 > Module class: X.Org XInput Driver > ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 4.0 > (II) LoadModule: "kbd" > (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input//kbd_drv.so > (II) Module kbd: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 1.6.3.901, module version = 1.3.2 > Module class: X.Org XInput Driver > ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 4.0 > (II) NVIDIA dlloader X Driver 180.60 Tue May 12 12:18:36 PDT 2009 > (II) NVIDIA Unified Driver for all Supported NVIDIA GPUs > (II) Primary Device is: PCI 01@00:00:0 > (II) Loading sub module "fb" > (II) LoadModule: "fb" > (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libfb.so > (II) Module fb: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 1.6.3.901, module version = 1.0.0 > ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4 > (II) Loading sub module "wfb" > (II) LoadModule: "wfb" > (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libwfb.so > (II) Module wfb: vendor="X.Org Foundation" > compiled for 1.6.3.901, module version = 1.0.0 > ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4 > (II) Loading sub module "ramdac" > (II) LoadModule: "ramdac" > (II) Module "ramdac" already built-in > (II) resource ranges after probing: > [0] -1 0 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[B] > [1] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] > [2] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] > [3] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] > [4] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] > [5] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX[B] > (**) NVIDIA(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32 > (==) NVIDIA(0): RGB weight 888 > (==) NVIDIA(0): Default visual is TrueColor > (==) NVIDIA(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) > (**) NVIDIA(0): Option "UseEdidDpi" "FALSE" > (**) NVIDIA(0): Enabling RENDER acceleration > (II) NVIDIA(0): Support for GLX with the Damage and Composite X extensions > is (II) NVIDIA(0): enabled. > (II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA GPU GeForce 7300 LE (G72) at PCI:1:0:0 (GPU-0) > (--) NVIDIA(0): Memory: 524288 kBytes > (--) NVIDIA(0): VideoBIOS: 05.72.22.43.01 > (II) NVIDIA(0): Detected PCI Express Link width: 16X > (--) NVIDIA(0): Interlaced video modes are supported on this GPU > (--) NVIDIA(0): Connected display device(s) on GeForce 7300 LE at > PCI:1:0:0: (--) NVIDIA(0): NEC AccuSync 120 (CRT-0) > (--) NVIDIA(0): NEC AccuSync 120 (CRT-0): 400.0 MHz maximum pixel clock > (II) NVIDIA(0): Assigned Display Device: CRT-0 > (II) NVIDIA(0): Validated modes: > (II) NVIDIA(0): "1600x1200" > (II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be 1600 x 1200 > (**) NVIDIA(0): DPI set to (100, 99); computed from "DisplaySize" Monitor > (**) NVIDIA(0): section option > (==) NVIDIA(0): Enabling 32-bit ARGB GLX visuals. > (--) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp > (II) do I need RAC? No, I don't. > (II) resource ranges after preInit: > [0] -1 0 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[B] > [1] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[B] > [2] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[B] > [3] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[B] > [4] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[B] > [5] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX[B] > (II) NVIDIA(0): Initialized GPU GART. > (II) NVIDIA(0): ACPI: failed to connect to the ACPI event daemon; the > daemon (II) NVIDIA(0): may not be running or the "AcpidSocketPath" X > (II) NVIDIA(0): configuration option may not be set correctly. When > the (II) NVIDIA(0): ACPI event daemon is available, the NVIDIA X > driver will (II) NVIDIA(0): try to use it to receive ACPI event > notifications. For (II) NVIDIA(0): details, please see the > "ConnectToAcpid" and > (II) NVIDIA(0): "AcpidSocketPath" X configuration options in Appendix > B: X (II) NVIDIA(0): Config Options in the README. > (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "1600x1200" > (II) Loading extension NV-GLX > (II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA 3D Acceleration Architecture Initialized > (==) NVIDIA(0): Disabling shared memory pixmaps > (II) NVIDIA(0): Using the NVIDIA 2D acceleration architecture > (==) NVIDIA(0): Backing store disabled > (==) NVIDIA(0): Silken mouse enabled > (II) NVIDIA(0): DPMS enabled > (II) Loading extension NV-CONTROL > (II) Loading extension XINERAMA > (==) RandR enabled > (II) Initializing built-in extension Generic Event Extension > (II) Initializing built-in extension SHAPE > (II) Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM > (II) Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension > (II) Initializing built-in extension XTEST > (II) Initializing built-in extension BIG-REQUESTS > (II) Initializing built-in extension SYNC > (II) Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD > (II) Initializing built-in extension XC-MISC > (II) Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA > (II) Initializing built-in extension XFIXES > (II) Initializing built-in extension RENDER > (II) Initializing built-in extension RANDR > (II) Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE > (II) Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE > (II) Initializing extension GLX > (**) Option "Protocol" "auto" > (**) Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" > (II) Mouse0: Setting mouse protocol to "ExplorerPS/2" > (**) Mouse0: Device: "/dev/input/mice" > (**) Mouse0: Protocol: "auto" > (**) Option "CorePointer" > (**) Mouse0: always reports core events > (**) Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" > (==) Mouse0: Emulate3Buttons, Emulate3Timeout: 50 > (**) Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" > (**) Mouse0: ZAxisMapping: buttons 4, 5, 6 and 7 > (**) Mouse0: Buttons: 11 > (**) Mouse0: Sensitivity: 1 > (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Mouse0" (type: MOUSE) > (**) Mouse0: (accel) keeping acceleration scheme 1 > (**) Mouse0: (accel) filter chain progression: 2.00 > (**) Mouse0: (accel) filter stage 0: 20.00 ms > (**) Mouse0: (accel) set acceleration profile 0 > (II) Mouse0: Setting mouse protocol to "ExplorerPS/2" > (II) Mouse0: ps2EnableDataReporting: succeeded > (**) Option "CoreKeyboard" > (**) Keyboard0: always reports core events > (**) Option "Protocol" "standard" > (**) Keyboard0: Protocol: standard > (**) Option "AutoRepeat" "500 30" > (**) Option "XkbRules" "xorg" > (**) Keyboard0: XkbRules: "xorg" > (**) Option "XkbModel" "pc105" > (**) Keyboard0: XkbModel: "pc105" > (**) Option "XkbLayout" "us" > (**) Keyboard0: XkbLayout: "us" > (**) Option "CustomKeycodes" "off" > (**) Keyboard0: CustomKeycodes disabled > (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Keyboard0" (type: KEYBOARD) > (II) 3rd Button detected: disabling emulate3Button > 1.6.3.901 is - lets just say you should either use 1.6.3 or 1.6.4 and what about your driver version? and why 2.6.27? that kernel is acient! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong? 2009-10-09 15:09 ` Volker Armin Hemmann @ 2009-10-09 15:20 ` Denis 2009-10-09 15:29 ` Volker Armin Hemmann 0 siblings, 1 reply; 39+ messages in thread From: Denis @ 2009-10-09 15:20 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user >> Section "Device" >> Identifier "Card0" >> Driver "nvidia" >> VendorName "nVidia Corporation" >> BoardName "GeForce 7300 LE" >> BusID "PCI:1:0:0" >> Option "UseEdidDpi" "FALSE" ==== why? ===== > >> # Option "DPI" "100 x 100" >> EndSection Sorry - what was that "why?" referring to? I think I put those options in when I was working on anti-aliasing the fonts to make them look smooth. That still works. > > 1.6.3.901 > is - lets just say you should either use 1.6.3 or 1.6.4 > and what about your driver version? > and why 2.6.27? that kernel is acient! > > Well, I used 1.6.3.901-r2 because that's what the portage pulled in when I did emerge -NDavu world. Portage tree seems to have options to use 1.6.4, but it was not pulled in by emerge, so maybe it is masked or keyworded? The kernel... Well, I am guilty of not keeping up on kernel updates because restarting the machine for each upgrade isn't always an option with my work. Do you think this version of the kernel may contribute to X instability? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong? 2009-10-09 15:20 ` Denis @ 2009-10-09 15:29 ` Volker Armin Hemmann 2009-10-09 15:36 ` Denis 0 siblings, 1 reply; 39+ messages in thread From: Volker Armin Hemmann @ 2009-10-09 15:29 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user On Freitag 09 Oktober 2009, Denis wrote: > >> Section "Device" > >> Identifier "Card0" > >> Driver "nvidia" > >> VendorName "nVidia Corporation" > >> BoardName "GeForce 7300 LE" > >> BusID "PCI:1:0:0" > >> Option "UseEdidDpi" "FALSE" > > ==== why? ===== > > >> # Option "DPI" "100 x 100" > >> EndSection > > Sorry - what was that "why?" referring to? I think I put those > options in when I was working on anti-aliasing the fonts to make them > look smooth. That still works. > > > 1.6.3.901 > > is - lets just say you should either use 1.6.3 or 1.6.4 > > and what about your driver version? > > and why 2.6.27? that kernel is acient! > > Well, I used 1.6.3.901-r2 because that's what the portage pulled in > when I did emerge -NDavu world. Portage tree seems to have options to > use 1.6.4, but it was not pulled in by emerge, so maybe it is masked > or keyworded? > > The kernel... Well, I am guilty of not keeping up on kernel updates > because restarting the machine for each upgrade isn't always an option > with my work. Do you think this version of the kernel may contribute > to X instability? > i am saying that you should try the latest kernel with the latest driver for your card ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong? 2009-10-09 15:29 ` Volker Armin Hemmann @ 2009-10-09 15:36 ` Denis 2009-10-09 18:36 ` Volker Armin Hemmann 0 siblings, 1 reply; 39+ messages in thread From: Denis @ 2009-10-09 15:36 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user I see. Well, I am running nvidia-drivers-180.60, and versions 185 and 190 are masked by ~x86. Same for the xorg-server-1.6.4. So the only thing I could do really is to update the kernel... But xorg-server-1.5 was perfectly stable for me, so I don't see how kernel upgrade would be helpful here, given that nvidia-drivers aren't in the kernel. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong? 2009-10-09 15:36 ` Denis @ 2009-10-09 18:36 ` Volker Armin Hemmann 2009-10-09 21:08 ` Denis 0 siblings, 1 reply; 39+ messages in thread From: Volker Armin Hemmann @ 2009-10-09 18:36 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user On Freitag 09 Oktober 2009, Denis wrote: > I see. > > Well, I am running nvidia-drivers-180.60, and versions 185 and 190 are > masked by ~x86. Same for the xorg-server-1.6.4. So the only thing I > could do really is to update the kernel... > > But xorg-server-1.5 was perfectly stable for me, so I don't see how > kernel upgrade would be helpful here, given that nvidia-drivers aren't > in the kernel. > nvidia drivers load into the kernel. Driver-kernel interaction can cause a lot of problems. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong? 2009-10-09 18:36 ` Volker Armin Hemmann @ 2009-10-09 21:08 ` Denis 2009-10-10 0:16 ` Volker Armin Hemmann 2009-10-11 17:36 ` Jesús Guerrero 0 siblings, 2 replies; 39+ messages in thread From: Denis @ 2009-10-09 21:08 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user > nvidia drivers load into the kernel. Driver-kernel interaction can cause a lot > of problems. Alright, I am now running 2.6.30-gentoo-r6 kernel, but I still have the same issue. I think it's a scroll-bar that triggers it. If I drag a scrollbar down with my mouse and then run it back up, there is a delayed response (especially in Acrobat Reader), and when I do that in Mathematica 5.2, that simply crashes X. Now I am kind of regretting that I upgraded to xorg-server-1.6... I was very happy with 1.5 and before. Sigh. May this be a library issue? Gtk? I received some kind of an error from Gtk, if I recall, while using acroread, but acroread did not crash... ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong? 2009-10-09 21:08 ` Denis @ 2009-10-10 0:16 ` Volker Armin Hemmann 2009-10-11 17:36 ` Jesús Guerrero 1 sibling, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread From: Volker Armin Hemmann @ 2009-10-10 0:16 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user On Freitag 09 Oktober 2009, Denis wrote: > > nvidia drivers load into the kernel. Driver-kernel interaction can cause > > a lot of problems. > > Alright, I am now running 2.6.30-gentoo-r6 kernel, but I still have > the same issue. > > I think it's a scroll-bar that triggers it. If I drag a scrollbar > down with my mouse and then run it back up, there is a delayed > response (especially in Acrobat Reader), and when I do that in > Mathematica 5.2, that simply crashes X. > > Now I am kind of regretting that I upgraded to xorg-server-1.6... I > was very happy with 1.5 and before. Sigh. May this be a library > issue? Gtk? I received some kind of an error from Gtk, if I recall, > while using acroread, but acroread did not crash... > you could rebuilt gtk, I never had crashes or problems with acrobat and I don't have mathematica :) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong? 2009-10-09 21:08 ` Denis 2009-10-10 0:16 ` Volker Armin Hemmann @ 2009-10-11 17:36 ` Jesús Guerrero 2009-10-11 21:13 ` Alan McKinnon 1 sibling, 1 reply; 39+ messages in thread From: Jesús Guerrero @ 2009-10-11 17:36 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:08:41 -0400, Denis <denis.che@gmail.com> wrote: >> nvidia drivers load into the kernel. Driver-kernel interaction can cause >> a lot >> of problems. > > Alright, I am now running 2.6.30-gentoo-r6 kernel, but I still have > the same issue. > > I think it's a scroll-bar that triggers it. If I drag a scrollbar > down with my mouse and then run it back up, there is a delayed > response (especially in Acrobat Reader), and when I do that in > Mathematica 5.2, that simply crashes X. > > Now I am kind of regretting that I upgraded to xorg-server-1.6... I > was very happy with 1.5 and before. Sigh. May this be a library > issue? Gtk? I received some kind of an error from Gtk, if I recall, > while using acroread, but acroread did not crash... Acroread has always been particularly unstable. I know nothing about the Linux version of Mathematica. You can always try revdep-rebuild. -- Jesús Guerrero ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong? 2009-10-11 17:36 ` Jesús Guerrero @ 2009-10-11 21:13 ` Alan McKinnon 2009-10-11 21:56 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards 2009-10-12 0:14 ` [gentoo-user] " Denis 0 siblings, 2 replies; 39+ messages in thread From: Alan McKinnon @ 2009-10-11 21:13 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user; +Cc: Jesús Guerrero On Sunday 11 October 2009 19:36:24 Jesús Guerrero wrote: > On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 17:08:41 -0400, Denis <denis.che@gmail.com> wrote: > >> nvidia drivers load into the kernel. Driver-kernel interaction can > > cause > > >> a lot > >> of problems. > > > > Alright, I am now running 2.6.30-gentoo-r6 kernel, but I still have > > the same issue. > > > > I think it's a scroll-bar that triggers it. If I drag a scrollbar > > down with my mouse and then run it back up, there is a delayed > > response (especially in Acrobat Reader), and when I do that in > > Mathematica 5.2, that simply crashes X. > > > > Now I am kind of regretting that I upgraded to xorg-server-1.6... I > > was very happy with 1.5 and before. Sigh. May this be a library > > issue? Gtk? I received some kind of an error from Gtk, if I recall, > > while using acroread, but acroread did not crash... > > Acroread has always been particularly unstable. I know nothing about the > Linux version of Mathematica. > > You can always try revdep-rebuild. He may also want to ask the question "Do I *really* need acroread?" and get the full complete answer. In my experience very few people actually need all the features in acroread, and okular|evince are quite adequate -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong? 2009-10-11 21:13 ` Alan McKinnon @ 2009-10-11 21:56 ` Grant Edwards 2009-10-12 0:14 ` [gentoo-user] " Denis 1 sibling, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread From: Grant Edwards @ 2009-10-11 21:56 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user On 2009-10-11, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote: > He may also want to ask the question "Do I *really* need > acroread?" and get the full complete answer. In my experience > very few people actually need all the features in acroread, > and okular|evince are quite adequate Do okular or eveince have a "print current view" feature? Thats one thing in acroread that xpdf never had, and I can't live without it. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! ! Up ahead! It's a at DONUT HUT!! visi.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong? 2009-10-11 21:13 ` Alan McKinnon 2009-10-11 21:56 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards @ 2009-10-12 0:14 ` Denis 2009-10-12 1:05 ` [gentoo-user] " walt 2009-10-12 7:42 ` [gentoo-user] " Dale 1 sibling, 2 replies; 39+ messages in thread From: Denis @ 2009-10-12 0:14 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user > He may also want to ask the question "Do I *really* need acroread?" and get > the full complete answer. In my experience very few people actually need all > the features in acroread, and okular|evince are quite adequate I am flexible on acroread, but acroread doesn't crash X - just gets a little backed up. I am OK with that. But X crashing from my use of Mathematica is absolutely unacceptable - this is what I need for my work. Before I upgraded to xorg-1.6 and libxcb-1.4, this *never* happened, not once, *in several years*, under extensive use, and I have been using the same Mathematica version all this time, 5.2. So if downgrading X and libxcb is what I have to do to restore reliable operation of my machine with Mathematica, then this is what I am doing next. Let me ask this next: is the downgrade of libxcb and xorg-server possible? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong? 2009-10-12 0:14 ` [gentoo-user] " Denis @ 2009-10-12 1:05 ` walt 2009-10-12 1:46 ` Denis 2009-10-12 7:42 ` [gentoo-user] " Dale 1 sibling, 1 reply; 39+ messages in thread From: walt @ 2009-10-12 1:05 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user On 10/11/2009 05:14 PM, Denis wrote: >> He may also want to ask the question "Do I *really* need acroread?" and get >> the full complete answer. In my experience very few people actually need all >> the features in acroread, and okular|evince are quite adequate > > I am flexible on acroread, but acroread doesn't crash X - just gets a > little backed up. I am OK with that. > > But X crashing from my use of Mathematica is absolutely unacceptable - I agree, it shouldn't crash. Are you starting Mathematica by clicking on an icon in a menu? If so, I'd suggest starting it from an xterm command prompt because you may see some helpful error messages before the crash. > Let me ask this next: is the downgrade of libxcb and xorg-server possible? I'm sure it is but it may be a pain, like everything always is ;o) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong? 2009-10-12 1:05 ` [gentoo-user] " walt @ 2009-10-12 1:46 ` Denis 2009-10-12 4:17 ` Brandon Vargo 0 siblings, 1 reply; 39+ messages in thread From: Denis @ 2009-10-12 1:46 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user >> But X crashing from my use of Mathematica is absolutely unacceptable - > > I agree, it shouldn't crash. Are you starting Mathematica by clicking on > an icon in a menu? If so, I'd suggest starting it from an xterm command > prompt because you may see some helpful error messages before the crash. I tried that, actually. There is no warning in the terminal window. And I have been looking at Xorg error logs also, but there is nothing useful at the end of them! All I have is: (WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory) (EE) Failed to load module "dri" (module does not exist, 0) (EE) Failed to load module "dri2" (module does not exist, 0) One curious thing... (II) Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation" compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: X.Org Video Driver Why does it say "compiled for 4.0.2" when all the other X modules say "compiled for 1.6.3.901", which is the xorg-server version? I'm sure that's nothing, but I'm just grabbing at straws here. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong? 2009-10-12 1:46 ` Denis @ 2009-10-12 4:17 ` Brandon Vargo 2009-10-12 5:18 ` Denis 0 siblings, 1 reply; 39+ messages in thread From: Brandon Vargo @ 2009-10-12 4:17 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 21:46 -0400, Denis wrote: > >> But X crashing from my use of Mathematica is absolutely unacceptable - > > > > I agree, it shouldn't crash. Are you starting Mathematica by clicking on > > an icon in a menu? If so, I'd suggest starting it from an xterm command > > prompt because you may see some helpful error messages before the crash. > > I tried that, actually. There is no warning in the terminal window. > And I have been looking at Xorg error logs also, but there is nothing > useful at the end of them! > > All I have is: > > (WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory) > (EE) Failed to load module "dri" (module does not exist, 0) > (EE) Failed to load module "dri2" (module does not exist, 0) > > One curious thing... > > (II) Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation" > compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0 > Module class: X.Org Video Driver > > Why does it say "compiled for 4.0.2" when all the other X modules say > "compiled for 1.6.3.901", which is the xorg-server version? I'm sure > that's nothing, but I'm just grabbing at straws here. I am a Mathematica 7 user on amd64 (gentoo-sources 2.6.30-r5) with an nvidia graphics card, and I just completed the same X upgrade this evening. So far Mathematica has not given me any issues. For what it's worth, I also receive the same "compiled for 4.0.2" messages in my logs for the nvidia module, though I have not recompiled my drivers (180.60) since the upgrade. dri and dri2 are not loaded, as you have above. After glancing through your xorg.conf and X logs, I do not see any glaring issues that would cause the problems you are experiencing. Two suggestions (apologies if they have been suggested already): 1) If you haven't already, recompile your xf86* packages. Somehow I missed those when upgrading X, which caused issues for me. 2) Mathematica (at least version 7) ships its own version of Qt, which it will use instead of the system version of Qt. If Mathematica 5 does something similar -- sorry, I have never used that version on Linux, so I do not know -- then it's possible that the old libraries are causing issues. At least in version 7, removing the Mathematica-supplied Qt libraries will cause Mathematica to use the updated system Qt libraries. For me, the Qt libraries shipped with Mathematica are under (install_directory)/SystemFiles/Libraries/Linux-x86-64/. If Mathematica 5 ships libraries that are also installed system-wide, then I would suggest moving the Mathematica files to another location and seeing if using the system libraries helps with your crashing issue. For me, removing the Mathematica Qt libraries made Mathematica faster and look better. Good luck with your issue. Regards, Brandon Vargo ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong? 2009-10-12 4:17 ` Brandon Vargo @ 2009-10-12 5:18 ` Denis 2009-10-12 6:50 ` Brandon Vargo 0 siblings, 1 reply; 39+ messages in thread From: Denis @ 2009-10-12 5:18 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user Brandon, Thanks very much for all this information about Mathematica - that gives me a glimmer of hope! > 1) If you haven't already, recompile your xf86* packages. Somehow I > missed those when upgrading X, which caused issues for me. I did recompile all the xf86 packages that qlist came up with. > 2) Mathematica (at least version 7) ships its own version of Qt, which > it will use instead of the system version of Qt. If Mathematica 5 does > something similar -- sorry, I have never used that version on Linux, so > I do not know -- then it's possible that the old libraries are causing > issues. At least in version 7, removing the Mathematica-supplied Qt > libraries will cause Mathematica to use the updated system Qt libraries. > For me, the Qt libraries shipped with Mathematica are under > (install_directory)/SystemFiles/Libraries/Linux-x86-64/. If Mathematica > 5 ships libraries that are also installed system-wide, then I would > suggest moving the Mathematica files to another location and seeing if > using the system libraries helps with your crashing issue. For me, > removing the Mathematica Qt libraries made Mathematica faster and look > better. This is very illuminating. I looked in the "/usr/local/Wolfram/Mathematica/5.2/SystemFiles/Libraries/Linux" directory, and this is what it contains for me: libguide.so libgmp.so.3 libvml.so libmkl.so libmkl_def.so libmkl_lapack32.so libmkl_lapack64.so libmkl_p3.so libmkl_p4.so libmkl_p4p.so libmkl_vml_def.so libmkl_vml_p3.so libmkl_vml_p4.so libmkl_vml_p4p.so Are these names familiar to anyone? Are these Qt libraries or are there others too? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong? 2009-10-12 5:18 ` Denis @ 2009-10-12 6:50 ` Brandon Vargo 2009-10-12 7:18 ` Denis 0 siblings, 1 reply; 39+ messages in thread From: Brandon Vargo @ 2009-10-12 6:50 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 01:18 -0400, Denis wrote: > libguide.so I don't have this one, and I don't know what it is. > libgmp.so.3 This is probably the gmp (GNU Multiple Precision) arithmetic library. > libvml.so I don't have this one, but I'm pretty sure it is part of Intel MKL (see below). > libmkl.so > libmkl_def.so > libmkl_lapack32.so > libmkl_lapack64.so > libmkl_p3.so > libmkl_p4.so > libmkl_p4p.so > libmkl_vml_def.so > libmkl_vml_p3.so > libmkl_vml_p4.so > libmkl_vml_p4p.so These are part of the Intel Math Kernel Library (MKL). My original Mathematica install had the following Qt libraries, in addition to a Qt plugins directory: libQt3Support.so.4 libQtCore.so.4 libQtGui.so.4 libQtNetwork.so.4 libQtSql.so.4 libQtSvg.so.4 libQtXml.so.4 These are all Qt 4 libraries, which did not exist when Mathematica 5 came out. I do not know what toolkit Wolfram used instead, but I was hoping it would be Qt3, GTK, or some other standard toolkit, as that would have potentially solved your issue. Are the files you listed all of the .so files under your Mathematica installation directory? Also, could you post the output of ldd on your main Mathematica executable? The main executable for me is (installdir)/SystemFiles/FrontEnd/Binaries/Linux-x86-64/Mathematica. This will indicate what libraries Mathematica uses. Another thing to try is playing with Java. Mathematica also ships its own bundled version of Java (again, Mathematica 7, I don't know about version 5). I have never tried to have Mathematica use sun-jdk instead of the bundled version, but it may be worth a go. As far as I know, Mathematica only uses Java for J/Link and not for the user interface (unless using custom interfaces with GUIKit - I've never tried that), so this probably is not the culprit, but you might try it. I have had problems with Java and Xlib/XCB in the past, even when there was no GUI. Another place where you might find more information or issues is Help->About->System Information->Devices (or similar). You might also check to see if you have any updates available: http://www.wolfram.com/products/applications/updates/ If none of the above works, I would suggest reverting the upgraded packages individually to figure out which package or packages causes the issue. From there it would be much easier to figure out what is causing the issue. If you post the output of the ldd command above, I might be able to find the source of the issue, or at least narrow down the search for which package is causing the issue, but other than that there's not much more I can do. Sorry, I don't have a copy of Mathematica 5 to play with to see if I can reproduce this; I still used Maple back then, before I made the switch to Mathematica 6. Is there a particular function that seems to trigger the crash when scrolling or does scrolling crash X every time? Good luck. I hope any of this helps. Regards, Brandon Vargo ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong? 2009-10-12 6:50 ` Brandon Vargo @ 2009-10-12 7:18 ` Denis 2009-10-12 22:33 ` Brandon Vargo 0 siblings, 1 reply; 39+ messages in thread From: Denis @ 2009-10-12 7:18 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user Brandon, Thank you for helping me along here! Here is the output of "ldd Mathematica": linux-gate.so.1 => (0xb8042000) libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0xb800c000) libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0xb7ff4000) librt.so.1 => /lib/librt.so.1 (0xb7feb000) libXt.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXt.so.6 (0xb7f9a000) libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXext.so.6 (0xb7f8b000) libXmu.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0xb7f74000) libSM.so.6 => /usr/lib/libSM.so.6 (0xb7f6a000) libICE.so.6 => /usr/lib/libICE.so.6 (0xb7f51000) libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 (0xb7e3a000) libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb7cf7000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb8043000) libuuid.so.1 => /lib/libuuid.so.1 (0xb7cf2000) libxcb.so.1 => /usr/lib/libxcb.so.1 (0xb7cd7000) libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXau.so.6 (0xb7cd3000) libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXdmcp.so.6 (0xb7ccd000) libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0xb7cc9000) So far, I see a bunch of references Java directories in the installation and a few .jar files. I haven't seen any reference to Qt. I did see the GUI-Kit and JLink in the AddOns directory. Basically, the only thing that triggers the crash is if I hold down the mouse button and drag the scrollbar UP right after I drag it DOWN. Dragging it down doesn't seem to make any difference by itself and hasn't crashed the program until I reverse and drag UP. Sometimes going up slowly will be OK too, but if I drag UP rapidly, it will crash. I can use the scroll arrows on top and bottom of the scrollbar, and it will scroll without incident, albeit slowly. Can the integrity of the above library links be checked, or would rebuilding all of them again make any difference? What is the command to determine which package the given .so.* file belongs to? Many thanks, Denis ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong? 2009-10-12 7:18 ` Denis @ 2009-10-12 22:33 ` Brandon Vargo 2009-10-12 22:43 ` Alan McKinnon 0 siblings, 1 reply; 39+ messages in thread From: Brandon Vargo @ 2009-10-12 22:33 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 03:18 -0400, Denis wrote: > Brandon, > > Thank you for helping me along here! > > Here is the output of "ldd Mathematica": > > linux-gate.so.1 => (0xb8042000) > libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0xb800c000) > libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0xb7ff4000) > librt.so.1 => /lib/librt.so.1 (0xb7feb000) > libXt.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXt.so.6 (0xb7f9a000) > libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXext.so.6 (0xb7f8b000) > libXmu.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0xb7f74000) > libSM.so.6 => /usr/lib/libSM.so.6 (0xb7f6a000) > libICE.so.6 => /usr/lib/libICE.so.6 (0xb7f51000) > libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 (0xb7e3a000) > libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb7cf7000) > /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb8043000) > libuuid.so.1 => /lib/libuuid.so.1 (0xb7cf2000) > libxcb.so.1 => /usr/lib/libxcb.so.1 (0xb7cd7000) > libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXau.so.6 (0xb7cd3000) > libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXdmcp.so.6 (0xb7ccd000) > libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0xb7cc9000) > > So far, I see a bunch of references Java directories in the > installation and a few .jar files. I haven't seen any reference to > Qt. I did see the GUI-Kit and JLink in the AddOns directory. > > Basically, the only thing that triggers the crash is if I hold down > the mouse button and drag the scrollbar UP right after I drag it DOWN. > Dragging it down doesn't seem to make any difference by itself and > hasn't crashed the program until I reverse and drag UP. Sometimes > going up slowly will be OK too, but if I drag UP rapidly, it will > crash. I can use the scroll arrows on top and bottom of the > scrollbar, and it will scroll without incident, albeit slowly. That sounds really bizarre. I have no idea what would be causing that. > Can the integrity of the above library links be checked, or would > rebuilding all of them again make any difference? What is the command > to determine which package the given .so.* file belongs to? equery (from app-portage/gentoolkit) can tell you which package a particular file belongs to. `equery belongs /path/to/filename` should do the trick. You could try downgrading those packages to see if it fixes your issue. I have not tried downgrading just one or two X libraries, though I have heard that it can break pretty badly (especially with respect to libxcb), so I would make a backup first. Another option could be trying an updated version of X from the x11 overlay. Maybe someone else on this list has experience with either case and can offer some pointers; I unfortunately have none. Packages with the above-listed libraries: x11-libs/libXt, x11-libs/libXmu x11-libs/libSM, x11-libs/libICE, x11-libs/libX11, x11-libs/libxcb, x11-libs/libXau. Good luck; I cannot think of anything else to suggest. Regards, Brandon Vargo ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong? 2009-10-12 22:33 ` Brandon Vargo @ 2009-10-12 22:43 ` Alan McKinnon 2009-10-13 0:25 ` Denis 0 siblings, 1 reply; 39+ messages in thread From: Alan McKinnon @ 2009-10-12 22:43 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user On Tuesday 13 October 2009 00:33:02 Brandon Vargo wrote: > > Basically, the only thing that triggers the crash is if I hold down > > the mouse button and drag the scrollbar UP right after I drag it DOWN. > > Dragging it down doesn't seem to make any difference by itself and > > hasn't crashed the program until I reverse and drag UP. Sometimes > > going up slowly will be OK too, but if I drag UP rapidly, it will > > crash. I can use the scroll arrows on top and bottom of the > > scrollbar, and it will scroll without incident, albeit slowly. > > That sounds really bizarre. I have no idea what would be causing that. > sounds like a segfault For example, data gets moved around in memory as the display is scrolled and somewhere there is a pointer to that memory. It gets updated somehow but when the scrolling is rapid the pointer gets used after the data is moved and before the pointer is updated. If it's something along these lines it's a) horrible to find and fix and b) horrible code -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong? 2009-10-12 22:43 ` Alan McKinnon @ 2009-10-13 0:25 ` Denis 2009-10-13 1:18 ` Dale 2009-10-13 1:58 ` Stroller 0 siblings, 2 replies; 39+ messages in thread From: Denis @ 2009-10-13 0:25 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user I tried a few things today: 1) rebuilt all x11-libs, media-libs, and anything I could think of that would be related to x11-libs (such as gtk+, qt...) 2) downgraded to xorg-server-1.5 Neither of these things helped. Alan's hypothesis sounds plausible, but I don't even know which package to point fingers at! Probably it's the Mathematica interface itself, which is horribly old by now, but I cannot upgrade it at this time. As I said, dragging the scrollbar down works fine, but you drag the scroll bar up, and in a few seconds X gets zapped. I tried instead clicking above or below the scroll bar to avoid dragging. That is a tad better, but after a few times, it goes down again... The weird thing is that I never had this problem before doing the massive lib-xcb upgrade, and obviously the xorg-server doesn't seem to be helping or hurting anything, so I went back to xorg-server 1.6. Is there any procedure out there about de-Xifying your system? I don't have the time right now to do all this, but I am just wondering if some people have removed everything X-related from their system and started anew without completely wrecking the box... ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong? 2009-10-13 0:25 ` Denis @ 2009-10-13 1:18 ` Dale 2009-10-13 1:58 ` Stroller 1 sibling, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread From: Dale @ 2009-10-13 1:18 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user Denis wrote: > I tried a few things today: > > 1) rebuilt all x11-libs, media-libs, and anything I could think of > that would be related to x11-libs (such as gtk+, qt...) > > 2) downgraded to xorg-server-1.5 > > Neither of these things helped. Alan's hypothesis sounds plausible, > but I don't even know which package to point fingers at! Probably > it's the Mathematica interface itself, which is horribly old by now, > but I cannot upgrade it at this time. As I said, dragging the > scrollbar down works fine, but you drag the scroll bar up, and in a > few seconds X gets zapped. I tried instead clicking above or below > the scroll bar to avoid dragging. That is a tad better, but after a > few times, it goes down again... > > The weird thing is that I never had this problem before doing the > massive lib-xcb upgrade, and obviously the xorg-server doesn't seem to > be helping or hurting anything, so I went back to xorg-server 1.6. > > Is there any procedure out there about de-Xifying your system? I > don't have the time right now to do all this, but I am just wondering > if some people have removed everything X-related from their system and > started anew without completely wrecking the box... > > > I would take a look at the world file and remove everything X related. A --depclean should then remove everything X related. Keep in mind, that could be a huge amount of stuff to re-install. I would make binaries of *some* things that you know would not affect the programs you are having issues with. Say for example OOo or some other large packages that take a while to compile. You can then use the -k option to reinstall them. Naturally, I wouldn't save anything related to X itself. I would recompile them from scratch. I wish I had better ideas or a quick fix. Dale :-) :-) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong? 2009-10-13 0:25 ` Denis 2009-10-13 1:18 ` Dale @ 2009-10-13 1:58 ` Stroller 2009-10-13 2:51 ` Denis 1 sibling, 1 reply; 39+ messages in thread From: Stroller @ 2009-10-13 1:58 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user On 13 Oct 2009, at 01:25, Denis wrote: > I tried a few things today: > ... > > Neither of these things helped. Alan's hypothesis sounds plausible, > but I don't even know which package to point fingers at! Have you `emerge -e world` yet? Stroller. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong? 2009-10-13 1:58 ` Stroller @ 2009-10-13 2:51 ` Denis 2009-10-13 17:34 ` Denis 0 siblings, 1 reply; 39+ messages in thread From: Denis @ 2009-10-13 2:51 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user > Have you `emerge -e world` yet? > > Stroller. I have that going now. I offloaded OpenOffice to shorten the duration of the rebuild, and I don't have KDE or Gnome - just fluxbox. So it should finish by sometime tomorrow, probably. There are 604 packages total. Instead of trying to rebuild X-related stuff in parts, I should have just done that from the beginning. Dale - thanks for the advices also. That's the route I thought about taking. Doing 'emerge -e world' first seems like a reasonable thing to do. It could be that whatever is causing this cannot be resolved by a simple rebuild. Whatever went into the lib-xcb upgrade probably is either incompatible with the Mathematica frontend or has a bug that's being exploited in this situation. Keeping my fingers crossed for the rebuild for now. :-) -Denis ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong? 2009-10-13 2:51 ` Denis @ 2009-10-13 17:34 ` Denis 2009-10-13 17:59 ` Dale 0 siblings, 1 reply; 39+ messages in thread From: Denis @ 2009-10-13 17:34 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user Ok, "emerge -e world" completed successfully. Bad news: X still crashes when scrolling in Mathematica... On to the downgrade of xcb then, as much as I'd rather not do that. As suggested, I would edit the world file to remove main X packages and then use emerge --depclean to prune out the danglers. As someone who has never done this before, I got two questions: 1. The easy one: where is the world file located these days? 2. The hard one: which packages do I remove from the world file to clean out anything X-related? I read of a suggestion to remove "x11-base/xorg-x11" and the rest would follow from depclean... Is that too optimistic? Thanks, Denis ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong? 2009-10-13 17:34 ` Denis @ 2009-10-13 17:59 ` Dale 2009-10-13 19:04 ` Denis 0 siblings, 1 reply; 39+ messages in thread From: Dale @ 2009-10-13 17:59 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user Denis wrote: > Ok, "emerge -e world" completed successfully. > > Bad news: X still crashes when scrolling in Mathematica... > > On to the downgrade of xcb then, as much as I'd rather not do that. > As suggested, I would edit the world file to remove main X packages > and then use emerge --depclean to prune out the danglers. As someone > who has never done this before, I got two questions: > > 1. The easy one: where is the world file located these days? > > 2. The hard one: which packages do I remove from the world file to > clean out anything X-related? I read of a suggestion to remove > "x11-base/xorg-x11" and the rest would follow from depclean... Is > that too optimistic? > > Thanks, > Denis > > > 1: /var/lib/portage/world 2: The file is in alphabetical order nowadays. The X stuff should be at the bottom of the file. Keep in mind tho, if you have a GUI such as KDE installed, that will pull the X stuff as a dependency. Things like Seamonkey may even pull in some X stuff. After all, don't you have to have a GUI for things like Seamonkey to work? Not on your list but if you have done a emerge -e world, I'm not real sure what this will accomplish. That should have recompiled EVERYTHING on your system already. I would be looking for a mailing list for the software to see if they know about this issue and have a fix or if they can give some ideas or even commands to run to help them fix it. I'm not real sure that this is going to help any at all. That help? Dale :-) :-) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong? 2009-10-13 17:59 ` Dale @ 2009-10-13 19:04 ` Denis 2009-10-13 19:52 ` Alan McKinnon 0 siblings, 1 reply; 39+ messages in thread From: Denis @ 2009-10-13 19:04 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user Perhaps I should try this procedure on my home gentoo box first. Here are my USE flags: X aac aim alsa ao bash-completion bdf branding bzip2 cairo cdda cddb cdparanoia cdr cpudetection djvu emacs encode exif firefox flac foomaticdb gif glut graphics gs gtk ieee1394 imagemagick imlib java javascript jbig jpeg jpeg2k kpathsea lame latex ldap libnotify libwww lm_sensors mad mmx mmxext mng motif mp3 mpeg mplayer msn openal opengl oss pdf plotutils png ppds preview-latex pstricks qt3support qt4 quicktime rtc samba science sdl sensord smp sndfile spell sse sse2 svga swat tcl tetex tiff tk truetype tta usb wavpack winbind wmp xcb xine xml yahoo -dri -isdnlog -pppd When "world" is edited, should I leave make.conf be or do I also need to remove all X-related USE flags from there? Here is my world file. I did not include anything under x11-* for brewity. I marked everything I am planning to remove with a preceding "- " Could someone look this over, please, to make sure I didn't select anything critical? I did use "equery depends" and some common sense, but I could use a sanity check! - app-admin/emacs-updater app-admin/syslog-ng - app-editors/emacs - app-emacs/emacs-common-gentoo - app-office/abiword - app-office/abiword-plugins app-portage/gentoolkit app-portage/mirrorselect app-portage/portage-utils app-portage/ufed app-shells/bash-completion - app-text/acroread - app-text/djvu - app-text/enchant - app-text/ghostscript-gpl - app-text/gnome-doc-utils - app-text/gtkspell - app-text/gv - app-text/hunspell - app-text/iso-codes - app-text/libpaper - app-text/libwpd app-text/poppler-data app-text/poppler-utils - app-text/ps2eps - app-text/psutils - app-text/rarian - app-text/rman - app-text/scrollkeeper - app-text/scrollkeeper-dtd app-text/sgml-common - app-text/t1utils - app-text/texi2html - app-text/texlive - app-text/wv - app-vim/fluxbox-syntax dev-java/javatoolkit dev-java/sun-jdk dev-lang/tcl dev-libs/dbus-glib dev-libs/libtasn1 dev-libs/mpfr dev-perl/XML-Parser dev-python/pygobject dev-python/pygtk - dev-tex/latex-beamer - dev-tex/mh - dev-texlive/texlive-bibtexextra - dev-texlive/texlive-latexextra dev-util/pkgconfig - gnome-base/gdm - gnome-base/libgnomecanvas - media-fonts/corefonts - media-fonts/dejavu - media-fonts/encodings - media-fonts/font-adobe-100dpi - media-fonts/font-adobe-75dpi - media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-100dpi - media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-75dpi - media-fonts/font-adobe-utopia-type1 - media-fonts/font-alias - media-fonts/font-arabic-misc - media-fonts/font-bh-100dpi - media-fonts/font-bh-75dpi - media-fonts/font-bh-lucidatypewriter-100dpi - media-fonts/font-bh-lucidatypewriter-75dpi - media-fonts/font-bh-ttf - media-fonts/font-bh-type1 - media-fonts/font-bitstream-100dpi - media-fonts/font-bitstream-75dpi - media-fonts/font-bitstream-speedo - media-fonts/font-bitstream-type1 - media-fonts/font-cronyx-cyrillic - media-fonts/font-cursor-misc - media-fonts/font-daewoo-misc - media-fonts/font-dec-misc - media-fonts/font-ibm-type1 - media-fonts/font-isas-misc - media-fonts/font-jis-misc - media-fonts/font-micro-misc - media-fonts/font-misc-cyrillic - media-fonts/font-misc-ethiopic - media-fonts/font-misc-meltho - media-fonts/font-misc-misc - media-fonts/font-mutt-misc - media-fonts/font-schumacher-misc - media-fonts/font-screen-cyrillic - media-fonts/font-sony-misc - media-fonts/font-sun-misc - media-fonts/font-util - media-fonts/font-winitzki-cyrillic - media-fonts/font-xfree86-type1 - media-fonts/freefonts - media-fonts/gnu-gs-fonts-std - media-fonts/intlfonts - media-fonts/terminus-font - media-fonts/ttf-bitstream-vera - media-fonts/unifont - media-gfx/gimp - media-gfx/gqview - media-gfx/imagemagick - media-gfx/jpeg2ps - media-gfx/sam2p - media-gfx/transfig - media-gfx/xfig - media-gfx/xv media-libs/alsa-lib media-libs/audiofile - media-libs/babl media-libs/flac - media-libs/fontconfig - media-libs/freeglut - media-libs/freetype - media-libs/ftgl - media-libs/gd - media-libs/gegl - media-libs/giflib - media-libs/glew - media-libs/gst-plugins-base - media-libs/gst-plugins-good - media-libs/gstreamer - media-libs/imlib2 - media-libs/jasper - media-libs/jbigkit - media-libs/jpeg - media-libs/lcms media-libs/libart_lgpl media-libs/libcddb - media-libs/libexif media-libs/libid3tag media-libs/libmad - media-libs/libmng media-libs/libogg media-libs/libpng media-libs/libsdl media-libs/libsndfile media-libs/libvorbis - media-libs/mesa - media-libs/netpbm media-libs/openjpeg - media-libs/pdflib - media-libs/plotutils media-libs/raptor media-libs/svgalib -media-libs/t1lib media-libs/tiff - media-libs/vigra media-plugins/alsa-plugins media-sound/alsa-utils media-sound/asunder media-sound/audacious media-sound/cdparanoia media-sound/cdplay media-sound/wavpack - media-video/nvidia-settings net-analyzer/netselect net-fs/samba - net-im/pidgin - net-irc/xchat net-misc/dhcpcd - net-print/cups perl-core/IO-Compress - sci-misc/qcad - sci-visualization/gnuplot sys-apps/dbus sys-apps/groff sys-apps/lm_sensors sys-apps/pciutils sys-boot/grub sys-devel/gcc sys-devel/gcc:4.1 sys-devel/gettext sys-devel/libtool sys-fs/e2fsprogs sys-kernel/gentoo-sources sys-kernel/gentoo-sources:2.6.27-r8 sys-kernel/module-rebuild sys-libs/timezone-data sys-process/vixie-cron virtual/perl-ExtUtils-CBuilder www-client/links - www-client/mozilla-firefox - www-plugins/adobe-flash ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong? 2009-10-13 19:04 ` Denis @ 2009-10-13 19:52 ` Alan McKinnon 2009-10-14 9:16 ` Dale 0 siblings, 1 reply; 39+ messages in thread From: Alan McKinnon @ 2009-10-13 19:52 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user; +Cc: Denis On Tuesday 13 October 2009 21:04:54 Denis wrote: > Perhaps I should try this procedure on my home gentoo box first. > > Here are my USE flags: > > X aac aim alsa ao bash-completion bdf branding bzip2 cairo cdda cddb > cdparanoia cdr cpudetection djvu emacs encode exif firefox flac > foomaticdb gif glut graphics gs gtk ieee1394 imagemagick imlib java > javascript jbig jpeg jpeg2k kpathsea lame latex ldap libnotify libwww > lm_sensors mad mmx mmxext mng motif mp3 mpeg mplayer msn openal opengl > oss pdf plotutils png ppds preview-latex pstricks qt3support qt4 > quicktime rtc samba science sdl sensord smp sndfile spell sse sse2 > svga swat tcl tetex tiff tk truetype tta usb wavpack winbind wmp xcb xine > xml yahoo -dri -isdnlog -pppd At a minum you'll need to remove X cairo firefox gtk motif opengl pdf qt3support qt4 truetype scb There will be others, that's just obvious ones from a quick scan through. Also remove similarly obvious stuff from package.use The as Dale said, manually edit your world file to remove everything that is obviously X related. But first, verify that "emerge -avuND world" want to merge nothing, otherwise --depclean will complain. Then the fun starts: emerge -a --depclean and let it do whatever it wants. emerge -pvuNDt world and look closely at what X stuff it wants to pull in. See if it's a dependency thing or a USE flag thing, and deal with it. Eventually, emerge -pvuND world will not want to remerge anything, only rebuild stuff due to changed USE flags. --depclean again, rinse and repeat as many times as you have to (probably lots). When you have done all this, and it will take a day or three, you will no doubt realise that it was not worth the effort and you should have just reinstalled without X, or fixed the underlying problem. Excising X is like downgrading to stable from unstable - not worth the effort. Sorry, but them's the breaks :-) > When "world" is edited, should I leave make.conf be or do I also need > to remove all X-related USE flags from there? Remove the flags from make.conf and also from package.use -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong? 2009-10-13 19:52 ` Alan McKinnon @ 2009-10-14 9:16 ` Dale 2009-10-14 16:50 ` Denis 0 siblings, 1 reply; 39+ messages in thread From: Dale @ 2009-10-14 9:16 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Tuesday 13 October 2009 21:04:54 Denis wrote: > >> Perhaps I should try this procedure on my home gentoo box first. >> >> Here are my USE flags: >> >> X aac aim alsa ao bash-completion bdf branding bzip2 cairo cdda cddb >> cdparanoia cdr cpudetection djvu emacs encode exif firefox flac >> foomaticdb gif glut graphics gs gtk ieee1394 imagemagick imlib java >> javascript jbig jpeg jpeg2k kpathsea lame latex ldap libnotify libwww >> lm_sensors mad mmx mmxext mng motif mp3 mpeg mplayer msn openal opengl >> oss pdf plotutils png ppds preview-latex pstricks qt3support qt4 >> quicktime rtc samba science sdl sensord smp sndfile spell sse sse2 >> svga swat tcl tetex tiff tk truetype tta usb wavpack winbind wmp xcb xine >> xml yahoo -dri -isdnlog -pppd >> > > At a minum you'll need to remove > > X > cairo > firefox > gtk > motif > opengl > pdf > qt3support > qt4 > truetype > scb > > There will be others, that's just obvious ones from a quick scan through. Also > remove similarly obvious stuff from package.use > > The as Dale said, manually edit your world file to remove everything that is > obviously X related. But first, verify that "emerge -avuND world" want to > merge nothing, otherwise --depclean will complain. > > Then the fun starts: > > emerge -a --depclean and let it do whatever it wants. > emerge -pvuNDt world and look closely at what X stuff it wants to pull in. > See if it's a dependency thing or a USE flag thing, and deal with it. > Eventually, emerge -pvuND world will not want to remerge anything, only > rebuild stuff due to changed USE flags. > --depclean again, rinse and repeat as many times as you have to (probably > lots). > > When you have done all this, and it will take a day or three, you will no > doubt realise that it was not worth the effort and you should have just > reinstalled without X, or fixed the underlying problem. > > Excising X is like downgrading to stable from unstable - not worth the effort. > > Sorry, but them's the breaks :-) > > >> When "world" is edited, should I leave make.conf be or do I also need >> to remove all X-related USE flags from there? >> > > Remove the flags from make.conf and also from package.use > > > > And if you run into a snag, try this option with emerge: --with-bdeps y I actually have that in make.conf for mine. As mentioned by Alan, I really doubt this is going to do much if any good. After you did a emerge -e world, that is pretty much it. Let us know what blows up. ;-) Dale :-) :-) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong? 2009-10-14 9:16 ` Dale @ 2009-10-14 16:50 ` Denis 2009-10-14 18:36 ` Dale ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 39+ messages in thread From: Denis @ 2009-10-14 16:50 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user > Let us know what blows up. ;-) > > Dale Nothing blew up ;-) I was successful removing X, downgrading, and getting X working again with xorg-server-1.5.3 and libxcb-1.1 FYI, the working package.mask file for this operation is: >=x11-libs/libXext-1.0.5 >=x11-libs/libX11-1.2 >=x11-libs/libxcb-1.4 >=x11-base/xorg-server-1.6 >=x11-base/xorg-x11-7.4 >=x11-proto/xproto-7.0.15 >=x11-proto/xextproto-7.0.5 >=x11-libs/xcb-util-0.3.5 >=x11-proto/xcb-proto-1.2 However, this must not have restored my previous X configuration fully because Mathematica still crashes. So I've decided to abandon this attempt, remove all masks, and allow the full X upgrade because I reinstall all the X packages back onto my system. While some folks here probably think this attempt foolish, I still think it was worth a try, and I learned some new things, which is always good. I appreciate everyone's help and support with this. Denis ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong? 2009-10-14 16:50 ` Denis @ 2009-10-14 18:36 ` Dale 2009-10-14 22:33 ` William Kenworthy 2009-10-15 1:17 ` Stroller 2 siblings, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread From: Dale @ 2009-10-14 18:36 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user Denis wrote: >> Let us know what blows up. ;-) >> >> Dale >> > > Nothing blew up ;-) I was successful removing X, downgrading, and > getting X working again with xorg-server-1.5.3 and libxcb-1.1 > > FYI, the working package.mask file for this operation is: > > >> =x11-libs/libXext-1.0.5 >> =x11-libs/libX11-1.2 >> =x11-libs/libxcb-1.4 >> =x11-base/xorg-server-1.6 >> =x11-base/xorg-x11-7.4 >> =x11-proto/xproto-7.0.15 >> =x11-proto/xextproto-7.0.5 >> =x11-libs/xcb-util-0.3.5 >> =x11-proto/xcb-proto-1.2 >> > > However, this must not have restored my previous X configuration fully > because Mathematica still crashes. So I've decided to abandon this > attempt, remove all masks, and allow the full X upgrade because I > reinstall all the X packages back onto my system. While some folks > here probably think this attempt foolish, I still think it was worth a > try, and I learned some new things, which is always good. > > I appreciate everyone's help and support with this. > Denis > > > Well, I do foolish things sometimes myself. Once every few months for example, I run a emerge -ev world. Then I reboot and make my back ups. At least I know it is a sane build and it will boot if restored from. I don't back up as much as I used to since I got DSL. I guess we all try something just to satisfy our curiosity if nothing else. I do wish it would have fixed your problem tho. I would travel upstream and see if you can help them by providing information on the crash. Dale :-) :-) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong? 2009-10-14 16:50 ` Denis 2009-10-14 18:36 ` Dale @ 2009-10-14 22:33 ` William Kenworthy 2009-10-14 23:18 ` Denis 2009-10-15 1:17 ` Stroller 2 siblings, 1 reply; 39+ messages in thread From: William Kenworthy @ 2009-10-14 22:33 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 12:50 -0400, Denis wrote: > > Let us know what blows up. ;-) > > > > Dale > > Nothing blew up ;-) I was successful removing X, downgrading, and > getting X working again with xorg-server-1.5.3 and libxcb-1.1 > Have you tried "strace'ing" mathematica to see why it dies? BillK ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong? 2009-10-14 22:33 ` William Kenworthy @ 2009-10-14 23:18 ` Denis 2009-10-14 23:34 ` Dale 0 siblings, 1 reply; 39+ messages in thread From: Denis @ 2009-10-14 23:18 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user > Have you tried "strace'ing" mathematica to see why it dies? > > BillK I ran an strace, but I can't make sense out of it. There's a bunch of polling and trying to access unavailable resources, from what I can see... The file is huge, but here is the tail end of it: ===================================== poll([{fd=11, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=21, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}], 2, 0) = 0 (Timeout) gettimeofday({1255560657, 709869}, NULL) = 0 gettimeofday({1255560657, 709891}, NULL) = 0 poll([{fd=10, events=POLLIN}, {fd=11, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=21, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}], 3, 0) = 0 (Timeout) gettimeofday({1255560657, 709945}, NULL) = 0 poll([{fd=10, events=POLLIN}, {fd=11, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=21, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}], 3, 0) = 0 (Timeout) poll([{fd=11, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=21, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}], 2, 0) = 0 (Timeout) gettimeofday({1255560657, 710025}, NULL) = 0 gettimeofday({1255560657, 710046}, NULL) = 0 poll([{fd=10, events=POLLIN}, {fd=11, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=21, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}], 3, 0) = 0 (Timeout) poll([{fd=10, events=POLLIN|POLLOUT}], 1, -1) = 1 ([{fd=10, revents=POLLOUT}]) writev(10, [{";\0\5\0o\5 \1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\202\4$\0;\0\5\0!\0 \1\0\0\0\0\0"..., 2204}, {NULL, 0}, {""..., 0}], 3) = 2204 read(10, 0x9d67130, 4096) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable) poll([{fd=10, events=POLLIN|POLLOUT}], 1, -1) = 1 ([{fd=10, revents=POLLOUT}]) writev(10, [{"=\0\4\0|\5 \1\2\0\16\0\v\0)\4>\4\7\0w\5 \1|\5 \1.\3 \1\0"..., 100}, {NULL, 0}, {""..., 0}], 3) = 100 poll([{fd=10, events=POLLIN}], 1, -1) = 1 ([{fd=10, revents=POLLIN}]) read(10, "\6\0pa\23\4\t\1I\2\0\0|\5 \1\0\0\0\0\6\5\315\0\6\0`\0\0\1\1\0\16"..., 4096) = 96 read(10, 0x9d67130, 4096) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable) read(10, 0x9d67130, 4096) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable) gettimeofday({1255560657, 718652}, NULL) = 0 poll([{fd=10, events=POLLIN}, {fd=11, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=21, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}], 3, 0) = 0 (Timeout) read(10, 0x9d67130, 4096) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable) read(10, 0x9d67130, 4096) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable) poll([{fd=10, events=POLLIN|POLLOUT}], 1, -1) = 1 ([{fd=10, revents=POLLOUT}]) writev(10, [{";\0\5\0o\5 \1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\202\4$\0;\0\5\0!\0 \1\0\0\0\0\0"..., 640}, {NULL, 0}, {""..., 0}], 3) = 640 poll([{fd=10, events=POLLIN}], 1, -1) = 1 ([{fd=10, revents=POLLIN}]) read(10, "\6\0\335a\34\4\t\1I\2\0\0|\5 \1\0\0\0\0\6\5\314\0\6\0_\0\0\1\1\0\1"..., 4096) = 64 read(10, 0x9d67130, 4096) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable) poll([{fd=10, events=POLLIN|POLLOUT}], 1, -1) = 1 ([{fd=10, revents=POLLOUT}]) writev(10, [{"8\0\4\0o\5 \1\4\0\0\0\0\0\0\0>\4\7\0\3\6 \1\202\5 \1o\5 \1\0"..., 48}, {NULL, 0}, {""..., 0}], 3) = 48 poll([{fd=10, events=POLLIN}], 1, -1) = 1 ([{fd=10, revents=POLLIN}]) read(10, "\16$\364a\202\5 \1\0\0>\n\0\371\34\10\361\207\t\10\320n1\n\332\0o\0}\3~\0\1"..., 4096) = 64 read(10, 0x9d67130, 4096) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable) gettimeofday({1255560657, 723910}, NULL) = 0 poll([{fd=10, events=POLLIN}, {fd=11, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=21, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}], 3, 0) = 0 (Timeout) poll([{fd=11, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=21, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}], 2, 0) = 0 (Timeout) gettimeofday({1255560657, 723992}, NULL) = 0 gettimeofday({1255560657, 724014}, NULL) = 0 poll([{fd=10, events=POLLIN}, {fd=11, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=21, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}], 3, 0) = 0 (Timeout) gettimeofday({1255560657, 724068}, NULL) = 0 poll([{fd=10, events=POLLIN}, {fd=11, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=21, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}], 3, 0) = 0 (Timeout) poll([{fd=11, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=21, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}], 2, 0) = 0 (Timeout) gettimeofday({1255560657, 724148}, NULL) = 0 gettimeofday({1255560657, 724181}, NULL) = 0 poll([{fd=10, events=POLLIN}, {fd=11, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}, {fd=21, events=POLLIN|POLLPRI}], 3, 0) = 0 (Timeout) poll([{fd=10, events=POLLIN|POLLOUT}], 1, -1) = 1 ([{fd=10, revents=POLLOUT}]) writev(10, [{";\0\5\0o\5 \1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\202\4$\0;\0\5\0!\0 \1\0\0\0\0\0"..., 1536}, {NULL, 0}, {""..., 0}], 3) = 1536 read(10, 0x9d67130, 4096) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable) poll([{fd=10, events=POLLIN|POLLOUT}], 1, -1) = 1 ([{fd=10, revents=POLLOUT}]) writev(10, [{"=\0\4\0|\5 \1\2\0\16\0\v\0)\4>\4\7\0w\5 \1|\5 \1.\3 \1\0"..., 100}, {NULL, 0}, {""..., 0}], 3) = 100 poll([{fd=10, events=POLLIN}], 1, -1) = 1 ([{fd=10, revents=POLLIN|POLLHUP}]) read(10, ""..., 4096) = 0 close(2) = 0 dup2(20, 2) = 2 write(2, "XIO: fatal IO error 11 (Resource"..., 79) = 79 write(2, " after 90691 requests (90613"..., 77) = 77 exit_group(1) = ? ===================================== Does this make any sense to anyone? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong? 2009-10-14 23:18 ` Denis @ 2009-10-14 23:34 ` Dale 0 siblings, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread From: Dale @ 2009-10-14 23:34 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user Denis wrote: >> Have you tried "strace'ing" mathematica to see why it dies? >> >> BillK >> > > I ran an strace, but I can't make sense out of it. There's a bunch of > polling and trying to access unavailable resources, from what I can > see... The file is huge, but here is the tail end of it: > > << SNIP >> > > Does this make any sense to anyone? > > > OK, first off. I have no clue what this program does. I'm shooting in the dark here. I found this: http://forums.wolfram.com/mathgroup/archive/2001/Dec/msg00034.html It seems you are not alone. I browsed though a couple other places and saw people mentioning python a bit. Does this software use python by any chance? I also noticed a lot of talking about I/O issues. Are you sure and for certain that you have the right chip set compiled for your hard drive? I ran into a lot of errors once and I had the wrong chip set selected in my kernel and although it was trying to work, it didn't work very well when there was a lot of I/O activity. Programs would crash and in the Konsole I would get all sorts of errors including the plan old seg fault type. Again, read the first three sentences. Just thinking and typing and that is dangerous for me. ;-) Dale :-) :-) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong? 2009-10-14 16:50 ` Denis 2009-10-14 18:36 ` Dale 2009-10-14 22:33 ` William Kenworthy @ 2009-10-15 1:17 ` Stroller 2009-10-15 17:42 ` Denis 2 siblings, 1 reply; 39+ messages in thread From: Stroller @ 2009-10-15 1:17 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user On 14 Oct 2009, at 17:50, Denis wrote: > ... While some folks > here probably think this attempt foolish, I still think it was worth a > try, and I learned some new things, which is always good. I don't think this attempt foolish - but I guess you're getting desperate. Having performed `emerge -e world` I would come to the conclusion that the problem is simply Mathematica, with some current libraries. I would probably want to try a fresh install of Gnetoo - on a different box or hard-drive - to prove the point. But I think I would be concluding shortly that it's an upstream bug. Stroller. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong? 2009-10-15 1:17 ` Stroller @ 2009-10-15 17:42 ` Denis 2009-10-15 18:09 ` Dale 0 siblings, 1 reply; 39+ messages in thread From: Denis @ 2009-10-15 17:42 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user Ordinarily, I would also point to I/O errors, but not this time. I have had this same version of Mathematica, 5.2, for *years*, on this same machine, over several kernels and several Xorg upgrades, and it was rock-solid. Not one X hang or crash. Ever. No error messages or I/O warnings ever. The only thing I'd ever see in the console would be GTK+ errors from other programs. Something about this latest X upgrade is making Mathematica unhappy, either because some previously supported format that worked fine with it has been altered or something else in that general regard. This version being so outdated - that isn't a surprise. It may not be a bug, so much as an incompatibility, perhaps I think the only thing I can do at this point that probably will fix this is to go to stable arch, but I am not willing to do that because I like my box the way it is now :-) It's great and efficient for all other things. Before I can get a local Mathematica upgrade, I will have to resort to using it via X forwarding off the central server. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong? 2009-10-15 17:42 ` Denis @ 2009-10-15 18:09 ` Dale 0 siblings, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread From: Dale @ 2009-10-15 18:09 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user Denis wrote: > Ordinarily, I would also point to I/O errors, but not this time. I > have had this same version of Mathematica, 5.2, for *years*, on this > same machine, over several kernels and several Xorg upgrades, and it > was rock-solid. Not one X hang or crash. Ever. No error messages or > I/O warnings ever. The only thing I'd ever see in the console would > be GTK+ errors from other programs. Something about this latest X > upgrade is making Mathematica unhappy, either because some previously > supported format that worked fine with it has been altered or > something else in that general regard. This version being so outdated > - that isn't a surprise. It may not be a bug, so much as an > incompatibility, perhaps > > I think the only thing I can do at this point that probably will fix > this is to go to stable arch, but I am not willing to do that because > I like my box the way it is now :-) It's great and efficient for all > other things. Before I can get a local Mathematica upgrade, I will > have to resort to using it via X forwarding off the central server. > > > I forgot to mention this earlier. The way I found out it was a I/O error for me was this command. hdparm -Tt /dev/hda && hdparm -Tt /dev/hda . I kept repeating that until it starting giving me errors. For mine it was after the third pass. Something to keep in mind, it could be something wrong with the driver in the kernel you are using. It could be any number of things like this. It could be that it is a mismatch as you mentioned between Mathematica and some other support program such as gtk, python or any other number of things. Me, I would hop on a mailing list for that software and ask them what strace command you can run and then send them the results. It may be that they can make some sense of the error and recommend a fix or even a downgrade of some other package. You may also want to use the q command to see what was upgraded since it last worked. That might point to something too. I think it is the q command that does that. Dale :-) :-) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong? 2009-10-12 0:14 ` [gentoo-user] " Denis 2009-10-12 1:05 ` [gentoo-user] " walt @ 2009-10-12 7:42 ` Dale 2009-10-13 21:12 ` Håkon Alstadheim 1 sibling, 1 reply; 39+ messages in thread From: Dale @ 2009-10-12 7:42 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user Denis wrote: >> He may also want to ask the question "Do I *really* need acroread?" and get >> the full complete answer. In my experience very few people actually need all >> the features in acroread, and okular|evince are quite adequate >> > > I am flexible on acroread, but acroread doesn't crash X - just gets a > little backed up. I am OK with that. > > But X crashing from my use of Mathematica is absolutely unacceptable - > this is what I need for my work. Before I upgraded to xorg-1.6 and > libxcb-1.4, this *never* happened, not once, *in several years*, under > extensive use, and I have been using the same Mathematica version all > this time, 5.2. So if downgrading X and libxcb is what I have to do > to restore reliable operation of my machine with Mathematica, then > this is what I am doing next. > > Let me ask this next: is the downgrade of libxcb and xorg-server possible? > > > I have downgraded xorg-server before and it is not to bad. Just mask the current version and do a emerge -uvDNa world. You may have to mask a couple more packages but the error will tell you which ones they are. I was able to just mask the one tho. If you are using hal, you may have to reemerge the mouse and keyboard drivers. I find them using this: equery list xf86-input That should list the drivers that need to be reemerged. I have three. Dale :-) :-) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong? 2009-10-12 7:42 ` [gentoo-user] " Dale @ 2009-10-13 21:12 ` Håkon Alstadheim 0 siblings, 0 replies; 39+ messages in thread From: Håkon Alstadheim @ 2009-10-13 21:12 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user I've been having some issues myself (mythtv manages to mess up my screen royally, I need to switch to a text virtual console and back to X to make the screen legible after viewing a TV-recording in myth). I just noticed that the version of the headers for xcb do not match the version on libxcb itself. Could this be the cause of my (and Daves) problems? I have libxcb 1.4, but headers version 1.5, no 1.4 available for the headers. (running a new sync of my portage tree now, just in case I've missed something) Viz: 1:medisin ~ # eix xcb [I] x11-libs/libxcb Available versions: 1.0 1.1 ~1.1.90.1 1.4-r1 {debug doc selinux} Installed versions: 1.4-r1(22:28:37 10/11/09)(-debug -doc -selinux) Homepage: http://xcb.freedesktop.org/ Description: X C-language Bindings library [I] x11-libs/xcb-util Available versions: 0.3.3 ~0.3.4 ~0.3.5 0.3.6 {debug test} Installed versions: 0.3.6(18:11:17 10/08/09)(-debug -test) Homepage: http://xcb.freedesktop.org/ Description: X C-language Bindings sample implementations * x11-misc/xcb Available versions: 2.4 {motif} Homepage: http://www.goof.com/pcg/marc/xcb.html Description: Marc Lehmann's improved X Cut Buffers [I] x11-proto/xcb-proto Available versions: 1.0 1.1 ~1.2 1.5 Installed versions: 1.5(05:16:09 10/06/09) Homepage: http://xcb.freedesktop.org/ Description: X C-language Bindings protocol headers Found 4 matches. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 39+ messages in thread
end of thread, other threads:[~2009-10-15 18:09 UTC | newest] Thread overview: 39+ messages (download: mbox.gz follow: Atom feed -- links below jump to the message on this page -- 2009-10-09 14:46 [gentoo-user] my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong? Denis 2009-10-09 15:09 ` Volker Armin Hemmann 2009-10-09 15:20 ` Denis 2009-10-09 15:29 ` Volker Armin Hemmann 2009-10-09 15:36 ` Denis 2009-10-09 18:36 ` Volker Armin Hemmann 2009-10-09 21:08 ` Denis 2009-10-10 0:16 ` Volker Armin Hemmann 2009-10-11 17:36 ` Jesús Guerrero 2009-10-11 21:13 ` Alan McKinnon 2009-10-11 21:56 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards 2009-10-12 0:14 ` [gentoo-user] " Denis 2009-10-12 1:05 ` [gentoo-user] " walt 2009-10-12 1:46 ` Denis 2009-10-12 4:17 ` Brandon Vargo 2009-10-12 5:18 ` Denis 2009-10-12 6:50 ` Brandon Vargo 2009-10-12 7:18 ` Denis 2009-10-12 22:33 ` Brandon Vargo 2009-10-12 22:43 ` Alan McKinnon 2009-10-13 0:25 ` Denis 2009-10-13 1:18 ` Dale 2009-10-13 1:58 ` Stroller 2009-10-13 2:51 ` Denis 2009-10-13 17:34 ` Denis 2009-10-13 17:59 ` Dale 2009-10-13 19:04 ` Denis 2009-10-13 19:52 ` Alan McKinnon 2009-10-14 9:16 ` Dale 2009-10-14 16:50 ` Denis 2009-10-14 18:36 ` Dale 2009-10-14 22:33 ` William Kenworthy 2009-10-14 23:18 ` Denis 2009-10-14 23:34 ` Dale 2009-10-15 1:17 ` Stroller 2009-10-15 17:42 ` Denis 2009-10-15 18:09 ` Dale 2009-10-12 7:42 ` [gentoo-user] " Dale 2009-10-13 21:12 ` Håkon Alstadheim
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