From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8AF9F1382C5 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2021 09:24:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 83496E0896; Mon, 7 Jun 2021 09:24:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.web.de (mout.web.de [212.227.17.11]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C504EE0886 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2021 09:24:46 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1623057875; bh=fx23MzVyS5VrxutEY1K+XLocZGW16A0Ll9NQWau3Vqs=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=ntlZdVKiuORf5TipMLgcXedLBFidwBvJVebYhDyS/RIcrZ1uTE29t7p3R5Ln8UbXa xIJmBNMJq6+zZOLLGSAl/d2jFLsbt1NDzO3bntnPLjyxu2xRurncUzIvppGRaSVery oCetDrRfkYylFlJt4dIPYj+eRFemj4XCyQWw4YdA= X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9 Received: from [192.168.178.101] ([92.195.234.176]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb105 [213.165.67.124]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MyNwk-1lQhUU3lwi-00yeNz for ; Mon, 07 Jun 2021 11:24:34 +0200 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo alternatives To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <6c2c7e97-89d9-438a-4053-ced043d7f307@web.de> <20210607101633.66dbb4b1@digimed.co.uk> From: n952162 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2021 11:25:55 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.10.2 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20210607101633.66dbb4b1@digimed.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en-US X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:RcgGu85W5Wn4wp5R6AhVNoVlOttBAb6zJT4Se2agExGeWLHDXbc QgYXjtveWINHIjXjXI8OkFiKQY0UcKXNXXhA51Jv+7oTStZGdkQozhR0pSsNnG8caxfb8qr 1pKVPt6K/NiiNAlFNiBLl6feEkl0DsL1YD+DmVb0Ixa5If4mskvw5tJ5G+B55Np//v9eZo9 VVEX+f1a70gLpEIffxfOg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:O20DbDNT8IQ=:EZ2GsLH9pjbpq9Pq2XRWN3 EsMLHyGCQqsCGTyVZnlx/gP2u/4xoNXYQrNLbLAA8dV/Uxq8INfArL5hwAHJNRIEIISd1OW8s MRPVi7RDkM8ruwWLM4O46NDZZzo3lMhkyDjdb03OqdTf6xzpNZYLKxJS4r3yTvXcybuq/Ykrc PgZEwfqtFL9DXloQG/c9Ouk6goLgCZbIR3DW7tg124sPFFSJwtRA08NQpY+K8rrN27XzDM+lK bN7QQuOpwUP7jLuxMZxG1OOCgeSHPz5RKfN5ankx3RC8lowSRHgSOF3/6TcYXFdnyLliGPNAg nTofomrc2EsYBdCvQYuDywItvbQAxsrhtjyG44b1vbPr37vYjsDJ75tz/aloYWhL7mGY/ULYO MeofKfOCLtztATsR047fpUM+iRYFK82/ycFlDYyqjioKWnI0mA92bNRs+dWyNken3xTUKJaWZ Gvk4/7OFNYxEBUXpTlW/ahZgpxnF8WsI3EDq8J0/NRDYAAXcL0l4tVb4p5pjBXl7aaLQ/YBnE gKgLKdG5sxjhGtjjOgdAcVfW2upF8rE4tkg8M2Hi8y+hipSCZiEpOUDXFZZcH82SdEg75YF27 cQe0q3Or92VuCZKwKSgLO2+jvhxzTfqUD3iyfH726LcBubzeFDdYBwzIbx4d5hmtBoNDEuhyu 5RVU35XVsCUymxniegMvycVh/g/vitJC4dBL83I5tgy4ES/O81m86t3PC9NvWjBTN/6T8aqRt BTgI+z0mmp6/RKAS//uwmCQltV7BDSgSiUyTLmftKDbu25rK8gkVDUBT8P8P/lgsKpxCcruFJ WlmnGKw+Y4eWXCWTVyFP+rufblbXmCBLEiFj6itSHiAIPfVAaNSMMaR5r78ESxYlhuon7LCiQ scrEi1BkLcG4cFxZ6+Ki/dgwbtk1PMPN5XlEGNKCvZeUvq8xJof8Gxt49y9jl86A/CZmzQnZY FQECnXqlG6heV3+39t5V4d5eV8qGpQpVmNByTy7QwP/kgqKajvRaIntSTQ4XCpouSs23GfKoY 8BjoRYethmGTZtjfovLVYoKQCmjIklB8UZx1jyvc+kSVAXIFfvrZGImDXgVULTvTWRF1ljk5q yDhC6VWvVx7rJttlCczhCzlhh99pkBxeUAO X-Archives-Salt: 6c61f5b9-8498-4979-855f-a7121a127f76 X-Archives-Hash: 7726f44273e14f081f9597ba5ae3de93 On 6/7/21 11:16 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jun 2021 11:10:13 +0200, n952162 wrote: > >>> Yes, I know, there are binary versions, but if I wanted to use binary, >>> I wouldn't use gentoo.=C2=A0 And anyway, there's always rust and gcc a= nd >>> ... >>> >>> >> Okay, I guess I got it, at least for the worst offenders, firefox and >> thunderbird: not have them in my world file and every quarter update >> them manually.=C2=A0 Would that work? > Not really, because you wouldn't get security updates. Also, because the= y > aren't in your world set, depclean would try to remove them and their > dependencies. > > A somewhat less clunky, but still far from perfect, option would be to > use package.mask to block updates beyond the current version. Hmmm.=C2=A0 That's interesting ... > > Using stable rather than testing, I don't know which you are currently > using, would reduce the number of updates significantly. This laptop run= s > testing, but I have Chromium set to use stable to avoid the situation of > a rebuild completing just in time to start the next one :( :-)))=C2=A0 That's exactly what I have (almost) with stable. > > You could also look at using distcc if you have more than one machine to > spread the load. > > Ah, that's also interesting=C2=A0 ... that's like an alternative to a loca= l binary server (which I'm currently doing) - the compilations are distributed on all nodes in the network - and then, presumably are also available to all nodes?=C2=A0 ...