[gentoo-user] installing/upgrading with emerge from non-root

[gentoo-user] installing/upgrading with emerge from non-root

[Kevin Haddock]

I'm trying to do distributed compile with a remote machine that I don't have root password to. I have a local account with sudo permissions and an account of the same name on the remote machine. I have set up ssh so I can shell across without entering passwords nor pass phrases. I have even added my user to the group 'wheel' and given it that group permission to execute all commands. I even went so far as to change all the emerge program files in /usr/lib/portage/bin to have g+x and belong to the group wheel, but it still tells me: 

$ emerge -kuDN world
emerge: superuser access is required.

Is there any way to do this?


-Kevin

-----

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      "Why am I here?"

But now we know the question is actually:

      "Why is THAT THERE?"

-Me


      

Re: [gentoo-user] installing/upgrading with emerge from non-root

[Paul Hartman]

On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Kevin Haddock<kevinhaddock@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I'm trying to do distributed compile with a remote machine that I don't have root password to. I have a local account with sudo permissions and an account of the same name on the remote machine. I have set up ssh so I can shell across without entering passwords nor pass phrases. I have even added my user to the group 'wheel' and given it that group permission to execute all commands. I even went so far as to change all the emerge program files in /usr/lib/portage/bin to have g+x and belong to the group wheel, but it still tells me:
>
> $ emerge -kuDN world
> emerge: superuser access is required.
>
> Is there any way to do this?

Are you in the portage group?

Re: [gentoo-user] installing/upgrading with emerge from non-root

[Kevin Haddock]

I tried adding myself to that (and logging out and back in) and it didn't make any difference.

-Kevin

-----

People originally thought the eternal question was:

      "Why am I here?"

But now we know the question is actually:

      "Why is THAT THERE?"

-Me


--- On Wed, 8/5/09, Paul Hartman <paul.hartman+gentoo@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Paul Hartman <paul.hartman+gentoo@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] installing/upgrading with emerge from non-root
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 8:22 AM
> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 10:14 AM,
> Kevin Haddock<kevinhaddock@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > I'm trying to do distributed compile with a remote
> machine that I don't have root password to. I have a local
> account with sudo permissions and an account of the same
> name on the remote machine. I have set up ssh so I can shell
> across without entering passwords nor pass phrases. I have
> even added my user to the group 'wheel' and given it that
> group permission to execute all commands. I even went so far
> as to change all the emerge program files in
> /usr/lib/portage/bin to have g+x and belong to the group
> wheel, but it still tells me:
> >
> > $ emerge -kuDN world
> > emerge: superuser access is required.
> >
> > Is there any way to do this?
> 
> Are you in the portage group?
> 
> 


      

Re: [gentoo-user] installing/upgrading with emerge from non-root

[Galevsky]

2009/8/5 Kevin Haddock <kevinhaddock@yahoo.com>:
> I'm trying to do distributed compile with a remote machine that I don't have root password to. I have a local account with sudo permissions and an account of the same name on the remote machine. I have set up ssh so I can shell across without entering passwords nor pass phrases. I have even added my user to the group 'wheel' and given it that group permission to execute all commands. I even went so far as to change all the emerge program files in /usr/lib/portage/bin to have g+x and belong to the group wheel, but it still tells me:
>
> $ emerge -kuDN world
> emerge: superuser access is required.
>
> Is there any way to do this?

Yep: as a member of wheel, you should be able to run emerge 'as root'
when sudoing:

sudo emerge whatyouwant

Gal'

Re: [gentoo-user] installing/upgrading with emerge from non-root

[Renat Golubchyk]

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Am Wed, 5 Aug 2009 17:48:06 +0200
schrieb Galevsky <galevsky@gmail.com>:

> 2009/8/5 Kevin Haddock <kevinhaddock@yahoo.com>:
> > I'm trying to do distributed compile with a remote machine that I
> > don't have root password to. I have a local account with sudo
> > permissions and an account of the same name on the remote machine.
> > I have set up ssh so I can shell across without entering passwords
> > nor pass phrases. I have even added my user to the group 'wheel'
> > and given it that group permission to execute all commands. I even
> > went so far as to change all the emerge program files
> > in /usr/lib/portage/bin to have g+x and belong to the group wheel,
> > but it still tells me:
> >
> > $ emerge -kuDN world
> > emerge: superuser access is required.
> >
> > Is there any way to do this?
> 
> Yep: as a member of wheel, you should be able to run emerge 'as root'
> when sudoing:
> 
> sudo emerge whatyouwant

And if you don't want to type password every time change
your /etc/sudoers file accordingly. Check the sudoers man page.


Cheers,
Renat


-- 
Probleme kann man niemals mit derselben Denkweise loesen,
durch die sie entstanden sind.
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Re: [gentoo-user] installing/upgrading with emerge from non-root

[Kevin Haddock]

hmmm... ok, I can see that, but if I use sudo, will distcc try to distribute the compile jobs logging in as my unprivileged user, or will it try doing it as root (on the other machine)?

-Kevin

-----

People originally thought the eternal question was:

      "Why am I here?"

But now we know the question is actually:

      "Why is THAT THERE?"

-Me


--- On Wed, 8/5/09, Galevsky <galevsky@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Galevsky <galevsky@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] installing/upgrading with emerge from non-root
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 8:48 AM
> 2009/8/5 Kevin Haddock <kevinhaddock@yahoo.com>:
> > I'm trying to do distributed compile with a remote
> machine that I don't have root password to. I have a local
> account with sudo permissions and an account of the same
> name on the remote machine. I have set up ssh so I can shell
> across without entering passwords nor pass phrases. I have
> even added my user to the group 'wheel' and given it that
> group permission to execute all commands. I even went so far
> as to change all the emerge program files in
> /usr/lib/portage/bin to have g+x and belong to the group
> wheel, but it still tells me:
> >
> > $ emerge -kuDN world
> > emerge: superuser access is required.
> >
> > Is there any way to do this?
> 
> Yep: as a member of wheel, you should be able to run emerge
> 'as root'
> when sudoing:
> 
> sudo emerge whatyouwant
> 
> Gal'
> 
> 


      

Re: [gentoo-user] installing/upgrading with emerge from non-root

[Galevsky]

2009/8/5 Kevin Haddock <kevinhaddock@yahoo.com>:
> hmmm... ok, I can see that, but if I use sudo, will distcc try to distribute the compile jobs logging in as my unprivileged user, or will it try doing it as root (on the other machine)?


????

You want to share your compilation tasks with others.... good. Do you
have enough rights to launch emerge localy ? So you have to launch
emerge with feature distcc on.

What about the other hosts that may help you compiling ? They have to
run the distcc daemon, with your IP on the authorized list. Do you
have enough privileges to manage/configure the distccd daemon on other
machines ? That is the question. You have to ask for it to the admin
if you cannot do it in your own.

I just want to let you know that shared compilation faces some issues
depending on packages: I failed to upgrade gcc using distcc, but
disabling it was a fix for my gcc-4.3.2 emerge process.

Galevsky

Re: [gentoo-user] installing/upgrading with emerge from non-root

[Kevin Haddock]

--- On Wed, 8/5/09, Galevsky <galevsky@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Galevsky <galevsky@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] installing/upgrading with emerge from non-root
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 1:09 PM
> 2009/8/5 Kevin Haddock <kevinhaddock@yahoo.com>:
> > hmmm... ok, I can see that, but if I use sudo, will
> distcc try to distribute the compile jobs logging in as my
> unprivileged user, or will it try doing it as root (on the
> other machine)?
> 
> 
> ????
> 
> You want to share your compilation tasks with others....
> good. Do you
> have enough rights to launch emerge localy ? So you have to
> launch
> emerge with feature distcc on.

That is done.  I am a sudoer on the other machine but I don't have the root password, nor do I just want to cavalierly set it as it's not my machine.

> 
> What about the other hosts that may help you compiling ?
> They have to
> run the distcc daemon, with your IP on the authorized list.

As the other machines are located across the public internet, it is my understanding that I should *not* run distccd but instead let mine log in with ssh to launch the compile.

> Do you
> have enough privileges to manage/configure the distccd
> daemon on other
> machines ? That is the question. You have to ask for it to
> the admin
> if you cannot do it in your own.

Should all be set up.  Only problem is that I don't think my machine can log in as root to the remote machine without the remote machine's root password, right?

> 
> I just want to let you know that shared compilation faces
> some issues
> depending on packages: I failed to upgrade gcc using
> distcc, but
> disabling it was a fix for my gcc-4.3.2 emerge process.
> 

all gcc's are the same version.

> Galevsky
> 

-Kevin 


      

Re: [gentoo-user] installing/upgrading with emerge from non-root

[Stroller]

On 5 Aug 2009, at 16:14, Kevin Haddock wrote:

> I'm trying to do distributed compile with a remote machine that I  
> don't have root password to. I have a local account with sudo  
> permissions and an account of the same name on the remote machine.

If you don't have the root password then just `sudo passwd root`.

Alternatively: `sudo su -`.

If someone doesn't want you to have the root password or to change it  
like that, then you're already (changing permissions of your own user  
& randomly changing permissions of programs) messing around with the  
machine more than you should be.

Stroller.

Re: [gentoo-user] installing/upgrading with emerge from non-root

[Kevin Haddock]

I changed the permissions on my machine.  On the remote machine, it shouldn't need root permissions just to compile programs, right?

-Kevin

-----

People originally thought the eternal question was:

      "Why am I here?"

But now we know the question is actually:

      "Why is THAT THERE?"

-Me


--- On Wed, 8/5/09, Stroller <stroller@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:

> From: Stroller <stroller@stellar.eclipse.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] installing/upgrading with emerge from non-root
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 1:58 PM
> 
> On 5 Aug 2009, at 16:14, Kevin Haddock wrote:
> 
> > I'm trying to do distributed compile with a remote
> machine that I don't have root password to. I have a local
> account with sudo permissions and an account of the same
> name on the remote machine.
> 
> If you don't have the root password then just `sudo passwd
> root`.
> 
> Alternatively: `sudo su -`.
> 
> If someone doesn't want you to have the root password or to
> change it like that, then you're already (changing
> permissions of your own user & randomly changing
> permissions of programs) messing around with the machine
> more than you should be.
> 
> Stroller.
> 
> 
> 


      

Re: [gentoo-user] installing/upgrading with emerge from non-root

[Dan Farrell]

On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 17:50:24 -0700 (PDT)
Kevin Haddock <kevinhaddock@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I changed the permissions on my machine.  On the remote machine, it
> shouldn't need root permissions just to compile programs, right?
> 

No, I don't think so.  

You know, the remote admin might rather open up distcc to local
connections; then you could tunnel through SSH.  That way distcc
doesn't even know you aren't remote.