Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Is GWN dead?

[Galevsky <galevsky@gmail.com>]

On Jan 11, 2008 8:08 PM, Michael Schmarck
<michael.schmarck@habmalnefrage.de> wrote:
> > GRML ? Knoppix ? other LiveCD ? What for, man ?
>
> Oh, quite easy - to install Gentoo. That way, the knowledge of experts
> in creating live CDs is leveraged. NIH is not a good point of view, if
> you ask me.
>
> > Using extra rescue
> > systems is a liberty, of course, but why should it be a must ? I
>
> Easy - to make use of expert knowledge. To save resources, as that's
> obviously a scarcity in Gentoo.

Not sure that in the whole Gentoo community we cannot find someone not
interested in dev stuff but okay to build CD releases... I can
understand the understaffed argument, but in that case don't tell me
that install CD is bad,  tell me Gentoo has no resource for, but the
debate is "does Gentoo need install CD or not ?".

> > see no gain in downloading and burning one more system...
>
> Uhm? That doesn't make sense. Downloading GRML is no worse than
> downloading a Gentoo Live CD.

Yes it is.  Portage is not included,  you depend on other systems that
don't mind about Gentoo needs and could go on different way, and I
find very strange to have a 2.6.23 stable in Gentoo, but not necessary
on other liveCD at the same time, plus networkless installations... I
think it is very good -for any distro-  to have an installCD that
brings a good system to not-connected machines. Just for them.

> > [...] I don't want to take care about
> > versions
>
> Me neither, but that's a dream.

I mean dealing with Gentoo components versions sounds sensible....
watching GRML/Knoppix/whatever website for a Gentoo install...surely
less.

> > So, of course, as far as
> > one of linux distro at least will provide a way to boot up an
> > up-to-date kernel, all the other distros won't have to maintain their
> > own releases, but in the end, I am not sure that the whole community
> > wants to launch the Windows Ubuntu installer, download the required
> > packages manager from the web and update the system from the good
> > repository.
>
> I don't get, what you were trying to say here.

I mean that one particular aspect of linux world that I love is
choice. I am very pleased to show different live CD to newbies and I
hope that all other distros won't have the same reasoning. Okay, GRML
does a nice job. But if a Gentoo user wants to spend time to build
liveCD, I see no reason not to let him release official iso ... and
propose a Gentoo alternative. Certainly not because guys are experts
in rescue systems at grml.org.

Gal'
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