From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JDGpc-00041Z-Uk for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:09:45 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4099BE143C; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:07:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.179]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E846E142E for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:07:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k34so1683354wah.10 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 02:07:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=4ygOeAGcCOAz7sfUidFhXlQm7NL/0+epPAmQFTWIPlo=; b=Fl/c8I+Uphc4eHCvZ9dwKIWogm6SIeCSprfCR7qQH0yTKyKov/1NcF4OuXVMGKDhas1ZsIa/Rs91YPGm+v1uBpS7BlKkAKxylWbP79HqkHB2zNz3IjdhpJfWNeJCWvX04Il3ighKwa/xrZ4IrFfNvHpL7qq9AVgjMcEvizTJxZU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=AohZRErsZcHDy1tN+O48GWJKgADRj8zTEwKPUSSks5wwGy+n/y+kresVIF80oAZf3mSzqZm1bHGqgaHx32s0SxlOAw3kpM5lubIYFem9kapVAgsQROT3G+fqCWPP7OmO04KXJdNpJJwc7m9r7NiXU4iQ9jiUdlmPGrf8rR8/yI4= Received: by 10.114.177.1 with SMTP id z1mr3525756wae.7.1200046021938; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 02:07:01 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.46.9 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 02:07:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:07:01 +0100 From: Galevsky To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Is GWN dead? In-Reply-To: <200801111038.08071.dirk.heinrichs.ext@nsn.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080111082729.GA12107@localhost> <1200041896.10339.13.camel@localhost> <20080111091237.GB12107@localhost> <200801111038.08071.dirk.heinrichs.ext@nsn.com> X-Archives-Salt: a9b5280b-e276-4f99-9951-f67cfdd4ba68 X-Archives-Hash: 28efa99c17164a7cb34560c5f8732a5d On Jan 11, 2008 10:38 AM, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: > Am Freitag, 11. Januar 2008 schrieb ext Shaochun Wang: > > > Currently, Gentoo has not updated > > its installation CD for a long time! > > They don't need to. One week ago I used a GRML cd to install a new Gentoo > system. & On Jan 11, 2008 10:22 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Why do you think gentoo *needs* to update it's install CD? Because Gentoo is a distro, and as a distro, it should have a way to be installed on a computer... I upgraded my hardware recently and my previous gentoo distro was not able to boot (ICH9 + JMicron controller) because no SATA HD was recognized with my old 2.6.18 kernel.... the only way to boot was livecd with right kernel/modules. But Gentoo was not able to provide a *so basic feature*, the one that let me boot on my computer.... and you see no needs with that ? Well, if Gentoo is not able to make my computer booting, it is sure that I have no need to get maintained portage nor any one of the ebuilds... To fix my problem, I had a look at other distro LiveCD, but had a too old kernel inside, then fell back to a custom-made Gentoo LiveCD found on the gentoo forums. Maybe *YOU* don't have the need to spend hours looking for an installCD/LiveCD, but it is a true one for lots of people that faced this problem. What Gentoo have to tell to these people ? Let's get to hell since Gentoo installCD is outdated ? You can say that devs have no time to make it, but please, don't tell that Gentoo doesn't need any installCD (outdated means no CD at all for many computers nowaday). Gal' -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list