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From: Galevsky <galevsky@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Is GWN dead?
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:07:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d5cfc3af0801110207w588af4e7ra795928576411edd@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200801111038.08071.dirk.heinrichs.ext@nsn.com>

On Jan 11, 2008 10:38 AM, Dirk Heinrichs <dirk.heinrichs.ext@nsn.com> wrote:
> Am Freitag, 11. Januar 2008 schrieb ext Shaochun Wang:
>
> > Currently, Gentoo has not updated
> > its installation CD for a long time!
>
> They don't need to. One week ago I used a GRML cd to install a new Gentoo
> system.

&

On Jan 11, 2008 10:22 AM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:
> Why do you think gentoo *needs* to update it's install CD?

Because Gentoo is a distro, and as a distro, it should have a way to
be installed on a computer... I upgraded my hardware recently and my
previous gentoo distro was not able to boot (ICH9 + JMicron
controller) because no SATA HD was recognized with my old 2.6.18
kernel.... the only way to boot was livecd with right kernel/modules.
But Gentoo was not able to provide a *so basic feature*, the one that
let me boot on my computer.... and you see no needs with that ? Well,
if Gentoo is not able to make my computer booting, it is sure that I
have no need to get maintained portage nor any one of the ebuilds...

To fix my problem, I had a look at other distro LiveCD, but had a too
old kernel inside, then fell back to a custom-made Gentoo LiveCD found
on the gentoo forums.

Maybe *YOU* don't have the need to spend hours looking for an
installCD/LiveCD, but it is a true one for lots of people that faced
this problem. What Gentoo have to tell to these people ? Let's get to
hell since Gentoo installCD is outdated ?

You can say that devs have no time to make it, but please, don't tell
that Gentoo doesn't need any installCD (outdated means no CD at all
for many computers nowaday).

Gal'
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-01-11 10:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 165+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-11  8:27 [gentoo-user] Is GWN dead? Shaochun Wang
2008-01-11  8:37 ` Daniel Pielmeier
2008-01-11  8:58   ` Pongracz Istvan
2008-01-11  9:12     ` Shaochun Wang
2008-01-11  9:22       ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-14  2:12         ` Iain Buchanan
2008-01-14 22:33           ` Walter Dnes
2008-01-11  9:35       ` Daniel Pielmeier
2008-01-11 10:06         ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 10:24           ` [gentoo-user] Install CD (was: Is GWN dead?) Dirk Heinrichs
2008-01-11  9:38       ` [gentoo-user] Is GWN dead? Dirk Heinrichs
2008-01-11  9:50         ` Dale
2008-01-11 10:07         ` Galevsky [this message]
2008-01-11 10:19           ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-11 10:38             ` Dale
2008-01-11 13:17               ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-11 13:35                 ` Dale
2008-01-11 13:46                   ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-11 14:14                     ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-11 23:18                     ` Dale
2008-01-12  0:16                       ` [gentoo-user] HTML vs. Text messages (WAS: Is GWN dead?) Hal Martin
2008-01-12  0:25                         ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-12 10:16                         ` Mick
2008-01-12 11:33                           ` Dale
2008-01-12 11:42                             ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-12 11:59                             ` Mick
2008-01-12 13:26                               ` Dale
2008-01-12 14:38                                 ` Mick
2008-01-11 13:48                   ` [gentoo-user] Is GWN dead? Neil Bothwick
2008-01-11 14:02                   ` Etaoin Shrdlu
2008-01-17  7:34                 ` [gentoo-user] " Thufir
2008-01-17  9:09                   ` Dale
2008-01-11 10:45             ` [gentoo-user] " Galevsky
2008-01-11 13:40               ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-11 13:58                 ` Daniel da Veiga
2008-01-17  7:33                   ` [gentoo-user] " Thufir
2008-01-17  8:44                     ` Michael Schmarck
2008-01-18  7:36                       ` Thufir
2008-01-11 10:21           ` [gentoo-user] " Norman Rieß
2008-01-11 10:30             ` Daniel Pielmeier
2008-01-11 10:50               ` Galevsky
2008-01-11 11:30                 ` Pongracz Istvan
2008-01-17  7:31                   ` [gentoo-user] " Thufir
2008-01-12 19:59               ` James
2008-01-12 20:04                 ` Kenneth Prugh
2008-01-12 20:20                 ` Michael Schmarck
2008-01-12 21:12                 ` Hemmann, Volker Armin
2008-01-17  7:27                   ` Thufir
2008-01-17  9:57                     ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-11 19:09             ` Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 19:19               ` Norman Rieß
2008-01-12 20:19                 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-13  0:36                   ` b.n.
2008-01-13  8:39                     ` Pongracz Istvan
2008-01-13 11:30                   ` Norman Rieß
2008-01-13 15:03                     ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-13 15:39                       ` Norman Rieß
2008-01-11 22:14               ` [gentoo-user] " Hal Martin
2008-01-11 22:35                 ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-12  0:25                   ` Dale
2008-01-11 13:43           ` Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 10:02       ` Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 10:29         ` Galevsky
2008-01-11 19:08           ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 22:31             ` Galevsky
2008-01-11 22:52               ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-11 23:13                 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-12  2:29                   ` b.n.
2008-01-12  2:27                     ` Daniel da Veiga
2008-01-12 11:50                     ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-15 19:20                   ` Eric Martin
2008-01-15 19:48                     ` [gentoo-user] gentoo>=sabayon+genkernel Δημήτριος Ροπόκης
2008-01-15 20:48                     ` [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Is GWN dead? Alan McKinnon
2008-01-15 22:12                       ` Mark Knecht
2008-01-12 20:07               ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 11:41         ` [gentoo-user] Gentoo Install CD : was " Philip Webb
2008-01-11 13:35           ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-14 10:41             ` [gentoo-user] " Thufir
2008-01-11 12:15         ` [gentoo-user] " David Relson
2008-01-11 13:25           ` Eddie Mihalow Jr
2008-01-11 14:09             ` Galevsky
2008-01-11 14:33               ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-17  7:19                 ` Thufir
2008-01-17  8:10                   ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-17  9:14                     ` Dale
2008-01-18  7:41                     ` Thufir
2008-01-17 10:00                   ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-18  7:43                     ` Thufir
2008-01-18  8:25                       ` [gentoo-user] q: how to make gentoo site sync for greek users Δημήτριος Ροπόκης
2008-01-18 18:12                         ` Mick
2008-01-18 14:04                       ` [gentoo-user] Re: Is GWN dead? Alan McKinnon
2008-01-18 18:46                         ` Thufir
2008-01-18 19:06                           ` Lowe Schmidt
2008-01-20  8:38                             ` Thufir
2008-01-11 14:53               ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 15:54                 ` Daniel da Veiga
2008-01-11 19:03                   ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-11 16:34               ` Eddie Mihalow Jr
2008-01-11 14:38             ` YoYo Siska
2008-01-11 16:36               ` Eddie Mihalow Jr
2008-01-12 19:18             ` David Relson
2008-01-12 21:16               ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-13  8:53                 ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-13 11:47                   ` Norman Rieß
2008-01-13 12:35                     ` b.n.
2008-01-13 12:56                       ` Norman Rieß
2008-01-13 13:32                         ` Dale
2008-01-13 14:15                       ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 15:00                         ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-13 15:35                           ` Dale
2008-01-13 16:35                           ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 19:24                             ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-13 19:38                               ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 20:24                                 ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-14 12:24                                 ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-13 21:35                               ` [gentoo-user] " Galevsky
2008-01-14  0:19                                 ` b.n.
2008-01-14 10:07                                   ` Galevsky
2008-01-14 16:54                                     ` b.n.
2008-01-14 16:53                                       ` Galevsky
2008-01-17  7:43                                     ` [gentoo-user] " Thufir
2008-01-13 15:02                     ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-13 15:41                       ` Norman Rieß
2008-01-13 13:58               ` Eddie Mihalow Jr
2008-01-14  5:16             ` Shaochun Wang
2008-01-14 11:24               ` Eddie Mihalow Jr
2008-01-11 14:01           ` Qian Qiao
2008-01-11 16:45             ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-12 20:52         ` James
2008-01-12 21:29           ` Mark Knecht
2008-01-13  8:56           ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-13  9:08             ` Dirk Heinrichs
2008-01-13 10:14               ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-13 20:44                 ` Dirk Heinrichs
2008-01-13 11:04               ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 20:46                 ` Dirk Heinrichs
2008-01-13 20:55                   ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 19:28               ` Etaoin Shrdlu
2008-01-13 20:51                 ` Dirk Heinrichs
2008-01-14  9:48                   ` Etaoin Shrdlu
2008-01-14 10:23                     ` Bo Ørsted Andresen
2008-01-14 18:47                       ` Benno Schulenberg
2008-01-14 21:46                         ` Alan McKinnon
2008-01-13  9:06           ` Michael Schmarck
2008-01-13 12:06           ` b.n.
2008-01-13 14:17             ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 14:53               ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-13 16:29                 ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 16:46                   ` Ken Gypen
2008-01-13 18:03                     ` Pongracz Istvan
2008-01-13 18:22                       ` Galevsky
2008-01-13 19:03                         ` Pongracz Istvan
2008-01-13 19:26                           ` Galevsky
2008-01-13 19:15                       ` Mark Knecht
2008-01-13 19:26                         ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-13 20:09                           ` Mark Knecht
2008-01-14  0:27                       ` b.n.
2008-01-14  7:22                         ` Pongracz Istvan
2008-01-14  9:17                         ` Neil Bothwick
2008-01-14  9:39                           ` Cocoy Dayao
2008-01-14 10:17                             ` Galevsky
2008-01-14 10:09                           ` Galevsky
2008-01-14 10:36                       ` [gentoo-user] " Thufir
2008-01-13 19:20                   ` [gentoo-user] Re: " Michael Schmarck
2008-01-13 19:24                     ` Neil Bothwick

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