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To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <2284374.iZASKD2KPV@rogueboard> <61ae6f8b-c889-5c7d-1e4a-2ab493f9bfb6@gmail.com> <4624142.cEBGB3zze1@rogueboard> <7f24b60f-b7bd-1a3f-83ca-722f34dcfd65@gmail.com> <7e93df09-d3a9-0710-a9e1-796815d64b83@gmail.com> From: Dale Autocrypt: addr=rdalek1967@gmail.com; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mQINBGFSciYBEADcEGMyJBSuavKO/XKUVvgkxck7Nl8Iuu8N2lcnRji/rSKg5c1Acix1ll9i oW8JBCHwvn0+Xy60BvEsqcup3YSHw5STl/bR1ePEehtnYrg8FdjdS91+B805RfnKMm69rFVI wLSBHQrSG1yxHd8CloWoEdhmVtP24buajbh114bgXd9ahtpZrCVMrWdWYUg2mEXguGV5uNAh Rf8SWxDNc79w24JxsV34a8niMUYMjzWr0rafIbzk732X38vGjVMLo/2mMpkbp9mPp++LHoY+ 0Pet8zxxdXPJSCd475kza1AD+hhSyBZXB9yknYWgyY3cZe1rGmooJSi2KX4QxO7npwLThcO1 be6KKRkd35+Fi/a1BzVOHsZMiK/gcwxEFoMd27gir4ehaeHJfFXl+65w4hj0EsOZSxrJrm2C R50g5By2czSKP1bADEygFNpIJj51AR+wM88NImG2RPtlT2maYBzazvF05g65cdHXGp1C7W5P wwwKU2DgABB2t7N7z5A69LnryBRw4zUYDRRYLTYlBlYgg+xILm2c0OrBdxJgLJa7JE50Eo25 d3PFwt9J0gYvqy6sPFLl9So0sDg9zm0hKQtXOP5kgropUFGrNoJI+mjwF4rYLRBVzZwNAvlO OhEvHubBo3mEllv4x+FeptwXZxlk7gUsdqI8AxnFB8K9wi6FVQARAQABtBtEYWxlIDxyZGFs ZWsxOTY3QGdtYWlsLmNvbT6JAk4EEwEIADgCGyMFCwkIBwIGFQoJCAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AW IQQSG1h01ruv/WNXc3Q3RqOgiQH1GwUCYVJy8gAKCRA3RqOgiQH1G+waEACeTZCt77jnRAmQ AV7otKuZekDWiLi3Eig8tj5ZJiCNSYA/hIxzmexRP0GMqjitcXK1iGwWcvMzzvIq30GAjIfB 4BR38cnXbtBa6fNewiT7QaZe/Hn6yBRldXNQypzbHy+/o27bUEy+oX4rE7etUgEHQAjuw7xz XFWg4tH1/KJvsOVY5upnWc5LdxYhsuQ3dQD4b22GsK0pOBDfb9PiirYM8eGKvrVuq4E/c75z lDDFhINl18lNZ9D0ZFL3IkTjHsAAqFH9uhnnEB8CWdHbBewPEfRaOhBUYWZ3Q8uTkmDgZT8q D9jlvLEdw7Nh2ApdxoepnI/4D+ql2Gr4DtH7SEPydr5gcf1Qr/2bXRb1hAYnIVcbncs/Bm3Z bkRKPVWMfE3Fusa+p5hMzixk0YysMaTHlc7mYRYAEZGnPMXnmcCbetwARU7A0yz1M1kCMOAQ Lsz8KH5kv3cRenMB6SFfjND2JfAK61H5TtnPq3L8noS2ZykRYxq9Nm3X64O1tJojIKBoZFr8 AwYNCvqC6puUyGMuzHPh7jPof8glfrrEKIYUvNPGMDoVX3IGetxh/9l6NcxgFA4JGoR+LS3C zmeNrwlllAe3OEUfKoWVQ+pagpSdM+8hHolaSda4Ys66Z3fCR4ZvcTqfhTAVskpqdXa4isAk 7vTcXu3L499ttywEp7rJTbkCDQRhUnImARAAncUdVhmtRr59zqpTUppKroQYlzR0jv8oa7DG K4gakTAT2N7evnI9wpssmzyVk8VEiLzhnFQ/Ol3FRt6hZCXDJt0clyHOyTfvz/MNFttWuZTc mLpSvmRR6VRjAH+Tz3Eam2xUw3PGuH97BcXQ3NnX3msv1UDxtxxBu6e2YrdeOhrCUSgzokcJ 98ChUNy934cgepPybAI12lSWqVFQ1aG7jExZfiUk+333fPSDbpKoZbTW5YJLXbycmW/C1IWL qYQyNjRWKaGoJtUWFhhmNiOQct7n90aKivNVPavmN+UQ9LlMaINtf9T6XCzLfogCFsulDCDJ 0yNQLDTurHaB4E71xoctgXmLLq9z1RQ0W2XiVAAOZQj6K3+d0AOUjDhCQ2QW8dUSq0ckkZXV DKVJOGS8Nhf2eIWIqRnP3AcUiiaiFGqUaVUmUAZ6h/oJmgghEu/1S+pcuUKU5i69+XCZ3hH2 Jzwzbf7K+FAIkOhCfHncF8i1N1pk00pOVykNnqHTfFo3qFusHt0ZWgXVnnn4pYdXqZNoDhvF BRE5Vm4k/k96Pw8HRx6Os6eFSRrlqGzRgqsu86FekxusXB9UGv4lJhtU/J+8MRWsh22K718s DbQnABicGKFz1qQlWvcf59oTByhLINJCBt1WXl+TzJDXepr3QSkqmK41dO9Hob97C9dMiK8A EQEAAYkCNgQYAQgAIAIbDBYhBBIbWHTWu6/9Y1dzdDdGo6CJAfUbBQJhUnLyAAoJEDdGo6CJ AfUbVHIQAKSWw620vPhR3A/njU2z77F3z/Jk+HTKdE3fIyWSWdkYN7CBFL0NguOMP30WZ+qE sJhZu7T5hf251MwQUUt27xlfnKYOmQs7CqONlXuXlGZI6WufrUjxNcVz+5gJsqvUWuuJWsgg sDmE92IBnfG/f81fPHWQyfr/SF4wYDMyoFp5xCCQpp1zB63iuFvvrhxBkEHzmbRtVDOhl0Xp BVEDR1w3QRACw9QJD/KM05Czv9JNQYlwinWO/OaQ9cMlUpKLgswUPg9IZ5vucxScfuAUA5uC B1jlAQ8ZPlVukBmbEv5RGOv+lpuEbA3YDMVtEeH4YMFbjt/+vH3Cr2vTbp5JlpByLburJEH0 WXZLUawEfUsZvVwpOuJK75vaa2HYXee+Cb3iCIzwfIfctdlqzUcbGRczlRNM59hpvj4z29Gh 3kAxVHItAYq54ikxQ9l4hQ8s9sLYPbX/WtcBxNX8crBSw0FLnmzGleVEtBHyqtt5CLzQNgrj GYWl1vKDUmRPw1CdZ1c+fMN9CY11jOM5B5ZnqZWfDeVYO2iJ5SuvTycChexCb8WYn1bdCBIo bBtga2RBXbVt4Mh9E4owsszefn51MwfjXxB20Fc5k3GU1AVpTCMs3ayYCzo0b2pvEvdjtDcA CYLEFPWgaFX9iQAM/CDfKvTtvgGWpqtCL2raq/mQoJEU Message-ID: Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2024 19:08:32 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.19 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: afda77f3-62bc-421f-a37d-d9cfaf61ce82 X-Archives-Hash: 21c97ddc721bf3db58c4a38ecf4a7850 Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-09-26, Dale wrote: > >> root@Gentoo-1 / # telnet smtp.gmail.com 587 >> Trying 142.251.116.108... >> Trying 2607:f8b0:4023:1000::6c... >> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Network is unreachable >> root@Gentoo-1 / # >> >> Can't connect. Well, that explains a lot. It can't reach anything to >> log into. It looks like it is trying both IPv4 and v6. So, I used >> ping. It works there. >> >> root@Gentoo-1 / # ping smtp.gmail.com >> PING smtp.gmail.com (142.250.115.108) 56(84) bytes of data. >> 64 bytes from rq-in-f108.1e100.net (142.250.115.108): icmp_seq=1 ttl=53 > Those commands are using two different IP addresses. > > It's not uncommon that DNS resolvers for heavily used services rotate > through a pool of addresses, but for testing purposes you should pick > a single IP address. > >>>> I am connected through a VPN but Seamonkey works fine. I can check and >>>> send email there, >>> Do you mean can send email via Gmail's SMTP server using Seamonkey? >>> >>> How are the SMTP server settings configured in Seamonkey? >>> >>> Is it using Oauth2 or an app password? >> I checked, It is using Oauth2. I had to change it a good while back >> but I think SMART could still send emails for a while after that. > Is it using the same port number as msmtp? > It says port 465 but it is using Oauth2 if that matters.  I'll admit, the last time I got this working, I followed a guide and it just worked.  Once it worked, I left it alone.  I was scared that if I touched it, it would stop working.  LOL  I changed the config to port 465 and it still failed with this.  Sep 26 19:04:26 Gentoo-1 smartd[18737]: Executing test of to root ... Sep 26 19:04:36 Gentoo-1 msmtp[18815]: host=smtp.gmail.com tls=on auth=off from=rdalek1967gmail.com recipients=root errormsg='the server sent an empty reply' exitcode=EX_PROTOCOL Sep 26 19:04:36 Gentoo-1 smartd[18737]: Test of to root produced unexpected output (65 bytes) to STDOUT/STDERR: Sep 26 19:04:36 Gentoo-1 smartd[18737]: mail: cannot send message: Process exited with a non-zero status Sep 26 19:04:36 Gentoo-1 smartd[18737]: Test of to root: failed (32-bit/8-bit exit status: 256/1) It repeated that several times before stopping.  >>> I just did a quick test, and sending via smtp.gmail.com using an app >>> password worked fine from mutt. I don't have msmtp set up at the >>> moment. >> That is true but why buy one if you can't run it? LOL This is yet >> another reason I want to switch from Gmail. They nothing but nosy >> anyway. I think it is common knowledge that they scan all emails and >> use the info for various things, including ads, which I block by the >> way. > There's nothing wrong with Gmail. The app password feature works > exactly as documented, and is definitely the right way to provide > authentication for "dumb" programs that don't know how to do OAUTH2. > > > I still don't like all the snooping they do.  Basically, I just don't trust Google, with a lot of things.  Dale :-)  :-)