[gentoo-user] Yipes I lost the ability to smb:// browse

[gentoo-user] Yipes I lost the ability to smb:// browse

[Harry Putnam]

Crosspost Alert:  gmane.linux.gentoo.use gmane.comp.kde.general 

Setup: Gentoo linux (kernel 2.6.15-r3)
       kde-3.5

I don't use konquerors ability to browse a network with smb protocol
to often, but it has always been there when I did want to.  Today I
tried for the first time in probably a mnth or so and I get this message:
`Protocol not supported'.

I did a big update recently and this is the first time using smb
since.  Samba is running and I can smbclient -L //host and see all the
shares but smb://host/share  just gets that message in konq.

Where should I start looking to fix this?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Yipes I lost the ability to smb:// browse

[Ian Porter]

Hi

On Wednesday 08 February 2006 21:24, Harry Putnam wrote:
> Crosspost Alert:  gmane.linux.gentoo.use gmane.comp.kde.general
>
> Setup: Gentoo linux (kernel 2.6.15-r3)
>        kde-3.5
>
> I don't use konquerors ability to browse a network with smb protocol
> to often, but it has always been there when I did want to.  Today I
> tried for the first time in probably a mnth or so and I get this message:
> `Protocol not supported'.

I had an similar problem with samba when I update the samba version, found out 
that samba users was not re-created. (/etc/samba/smbusers) thus I just 
smdpasswd 

HTH
Ian
>
> I did a big update recently and this is the first time using smb
> since.  Samba is running and I can smbclient -L //host and see all the
> shares but smb://host/share  just gets that message in konq.
>
> Where should I start looking to fix this?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Yipes I lost the ability to smb:// browse

[Iain Buchanan]

On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 15:24 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote:

> I don't use konquerors ability to browse a network with smb protocol
> to often, but it has always been there when I did want to.  Today I
> tried for the first time in probably a mnth or so and I get this message:
> `Protocol not supported'.

Just yesterday I tried to do the same in gnome - and guess what? It
doesn't work either.  (I used to use it all the time).

I don't know if it's related, but its annoying!!
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Re: [gentoo-user] Yipes I lost the ability to smb:// browse

[Andrei Slavoiu]

--- Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> wrote:
> I did a big update recently and this is the first
> time using smb
> since.  Samba is running and I can smbclient -L
> //host and see all the
> shares but smb://host/share  just gets that message
> in konq.
> 
> Where should I start looking to fix this?
The first thing should be to check that the samba USE
flag is set. If you are using the unstable portage
version it might have been disabled by a recent change.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Yipes I lost the ability to smb:// browse

[Iain Buchanan]

On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 15:20 -0800, Andrei Slavoiu wrote:
> --- Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> wrote:
> > I did a big update recently and this is the first
> > time using smb
> > since.  Samba is running and I can smbclient -L
> > //host and see all the
> > shares but smb://host/share  just gets that message
> > in konq.
> > 
> > Where should I start looking to fix this?
> The first thing should be to check that the samba USE
> flag is set.

aha, that did it for me, now I can browse smb:// shares again!  However
there are other problems with it (new thread...)
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[gentoo-user] Re: Yipes I lost the ability to smb:// browse

[Harry Putnam]

Iain Buchanan <iaindb@netspace.net.au> writes:

> aha, that did it for me, now I can browse smb:// shares again!  However
> there are other problems with it (new thread...)

What did you do?
I'm not sure what was meant by checking if samba USE flag is `set'.
Do you mean it appears in /etc/make.conf ... or was used on cmdline
when installing or what?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Yipes I lost the ability to smb:// browse

[Iain Buchanan]

On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 23:59 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote:
> Iain Buchanan <iaindb@netspace.net.au> writes:
> 
> > aha, that did it for me, now I can browse smb:// shares again!  However
> > there are other problems with it (new thread...)
> 
> What did you do?
> I'm not sure what was meant by checking if samba USE flag is `set'.

I had the problem with Nautilus (IIRC you were using kde?) so YMMV
(you're mileage may vary)...

> Do you mean it appears in /etc/make.conf ... 

yes, I put it in /etc/make.conf because I noticed quite a few ebuilds
use the samba or smb use flag.  You could also put it
in /etc/portage/package.use if you only wanted it enabled for a specific
ebuild, and not your whole system.

> or was used on cmdline
> when installing or what?

you _can_ do this, but I don't recommend it, as this use flag will be
"lost" the next time you install or upgrade the program...

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[gentoo-user] Re: Yipes I lost the ability to smb:// browse

[Harry Putnam]

Iain Buchanan <iaindb@netspace.net.au> writes:

>> > aha, that did it for me, now I can browse smb:// shares again!  However
>> > there are other problems with it (new thread...)
>> 
>> What did you do?
>> I'm not sure what was meant by checking if samba USE flag is `set'.
>
> I had the problem with Nautilus (IIRC you were using kde?) so YMMV
> (you're mileage may vary)...
>
>> Do you mean it appears in /etc/make.conf ... 
>
> yes, I put it in /etc/make.conf because I noticed quite a few ebuilds
> use the samba or smb use flag.  You could also put it
> in /etc/portage/package.use if you only wanted it enabled for a specific
> ebuild, and not your whole system.

When I type `emerge -vp -uD samba'  it does not find andy dependancies
and doesn't want to reinstall samba.  Further no `samba or smb' flags
are shown for samba in the output neith on or off.

My understanding was that any USE flags that might effect a package
are shown when you pretend install it.
Even after adding `samba' and `smb' to /etc/make.conf, no `samba' or `smb'
flag is apparently involved with a samba install.

Further I've never had samba or smb in /etc/make.conf before and samba
has worked fine over serveral installs.

smbclient //host/share works fin now so doesn't that mean its working
as expected?

I am reinstalling samba with those flags in /etc/make.conf so will
soon see if it made any difference.

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[gentoo-user] Re: Yipes I lost the ability to smb:// browse

[Harry Putnam]

Ian Porter <ian@designersoft.co.uk> writes:

> I had an similar problem with samba when I update the samba version, found out 
> that samba users was not re-created. (/etc/samba/smbusers) thus I just 
> smdpasswd 

What do you mean here.. you changed the way you use samba or what?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Yipes I lost the ability to smb:// browse

[Iain Buchanan]

On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 05:33 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote:
> Iain Buchanan <iaindb@netspace.net.au> writes:
> 
> >> > aha, that did it for me, now I can browse smb:// shares again!  However
> >> > there are other problems with it (new thread...)
> >> 
> >> What did you do?
> >> I'm not sure what was meant by checking if samba USE flag is `set'.

[snip]

> When I type `emerge -vp -uD samba'  it does not find andy dependancies
> and doesn't want to reinstall samba.  Further no `samba or smb' flags
> are shown for samba in the output neith on or off.

ok, back up a bit (*beep* *beep* *beep*)...

The samba or smb use flag is for (in my case) nautilus, or gnome-vfs,
and (in your case) whatever kde file manager you're using, or maybe even
kdelibs or something.

after you put USE="samba smb" into your /etc/make.conf, type
$ emerge -p --newuse world
to see all the ebuilds affected by the new use flags.

I hope this clears it up a bit for you.  Otherwise, keep posting :)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Yipes I lost the ability to smb:// browse

[CapSel]

I've made a little script in perl that scans some ip's and makes
entries for automount in /var/smb and than this script makes dirs like
192.168.0.3... and in them makes links to "ghosted" dirs in /var/smb.
Any one intrested in it?
This scripts scans only guest accessible shares.
It helped me solve problem with mplayer, until this I had to copy
entire film and then watch it,  or by hand mounting it... I don't use
kde/gnome and xfce's smb browser doesn't work for me.
Any one intrested in it?

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[gentoo-user] Re: Yipes I lost the ability to smb:// browse

[Harry Putnam]

Iain Buchanan <iaindb@netspace.net.au> writes:

> after you put USE="samba smb" into your /etc/make.conf, type
> $ emerge -p --newuse world
> to see all the ebuilds affected by the new use flags.
> I hope this clears it up a bit for you.  Otherwise, keep posting :)

There aren't any here... even with the -v flag I get no ouput from
that:

emerge -vp --newuse world
  >>> --newuse implies --update... adding --update to options.
  These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
  Calculating world dependencies ...done!

So apparently this is not a factor yet konq will not accept an smb
address.  And I cannot access the gentoo box from windows machines on
the network.

The /etc/samba/smb.conf hasn't changed and I can access the gentoo box
from windows boxes nearby.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Yipes I lost the ability to smb:// browse

[James Ausmus]

On 2/9/06, Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> wrote:
> Iain Buchanan <iaindb@netspace.net.au> writes:
>
> > after you put USE="samba smb" into your /etc/make.conf, type
> > $ emerge -p --newuse world
> > to see all the ebuilds affected by the new use flags.
> > I hope this clears it up a bit for you.  Otherwise, keep posting :)
>
> There aren't any here... even with the -v flag I get no ouput from
> that:
>
> emerge -vp --newuse world
>   >>> --newuse implies --update... adding --update to options.
>   These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
>   Calculating world dependencies ...done!
>

The KDE package that utlizes a samba USE flag is:

kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves

What do the USE flags show for it if you do an emerge -pv kdebase-kioslaves?

-James

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Yipes I lost the ability to smb:// browse

[Ryan Tandy]

Harry Putnam wrote:
> Iain Buchanan <iaindb@netspace.net.au> writes:
>
>   
>> after you put USE="samba smb" into your /etc/make.conf, type
>> $ emerge -p --newuse world
>> to see all the ebuilds affected by the new use flags.
>> I hope this clears it up a bit for you.  Otherwise, keep posting :)
>>     
>
> There aren't any here... even with the -v flag I get no ouput from
> that:
>
> emerge -vp --newuse world
>   >>> --newuse implies --update... adding --update to options.
>   These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
>   Calculating world dependencies ...done!
>
> So apparently this is not a factor yet konq will not accept an smb
> address.  And I cannot access the gentoo box from windows machines on
> the network.
>
> The /etc/samba/smb.conf hasn't changed and I can access the gentoo box
> from windows boxes nearby.
>
>   
Sooo... you can access it from nearby Windows boxes, or you can't?  
There appears to be a contradiction here.  If you can't, restart samba 
to make sure it's actually on.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Yipes I lost the ability to smb:// browse

[Iain Buchanan]

On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 15:45 +0100, CapSel wrote:
> I've made a little script in perl that scans some ip's and makes
> entries for automount in /var/smb and than this script makes dirs like
> 192.168.0.3... and in them makes links to "ghosted" dirs in /var/smb.
> Any one intrested in it?
> This scripts scans only guest accessible shares.
> It helped me solve problem with mplayer, until this I had to copy
> entire film and then watch it,  or by hand mounting it... I don't use
> kde/gnome and xfce's smb browser doesn't work for me.
> Any one intrested in it?

sure, post it to the list if it's not too long, or upload it somewhere -
I'd be interested in having a look.
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[gentoo-user] Re: Yipes I lost the ability to smb:// browse

[Harry Putnam]

James Ausmus <james.ausmus@gmail.com> writes:

> The KDE package that utlizes a samba USE flag is:
>
> kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves
>
> What do the USE flags show for it if you do an emerge -pv kdebase-kioslaves?

Looks like cups is another that uses samba flag.

Running emerge -vp -uD --newuse on kdebase-kioslaves and cups doesn't
show any dependancies though.   So I'm recompiling those two.
That should fix things right?

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[gentoo-user] Re: Yipes I lost the ability to smb:// browse

[Harry Putnam]

Ryan Tandy <tarpman@gmail.com> writes:

> Sooo... you can access it from nearby Windows boxes, or you can't?
> There appears to be a contradiction here.  If you can't, restart samba
> to make sure it's actually on.

Yeah sorry I noticed that too after posting.  The correct statement is
that I CAN browse of the gentoo box shares from neighboring windows
boxes.

I'm currently recompiling kdebase-kioslaves and cups with samba flag set.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Yipes I lost the ability to smb:// browse

[Iain Buchanan]

On Thu, 2006-02-09 at 18:57 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote:
> James Ausmus <james.ausmus@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > The KDE package that utlizes a samba USE flag is:
> >
> > kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves
> >
> > What do the USE flags show for it if you do an emerge -pv kdebase-kioslaves?
> 
> Looks like cups is another that uses samba flag.
> 
> Running emerge -vp -uD --newuse on kdebase-kioslaves and cups doesn't
> show any dependancies though.   So I'm recompiling those two.
> That should fix things right?

It doesn't necessarily need to show any new dependencies to make use of
a new use flag.

for example, following is gnome-vfs with and without the samba and smb
use flags.  As you can see, only one package is isntalled in both
occasions, but the behaviour of that package is different:

$ USE="-samba -smb" emerge -pv gnome-vfs
[ebuild   R   ] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.12.2  USE="hal ipv6 ssl -debug -doc -gnutls -howl -samba*" 0 kB

$ USE="samba smb" emerge -pv gnome-vfs
[ebuild   R   ] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.12.2  USE="hal ipv6 samba ssl -debug -doc -gnutls -howl" 0 kB

so just because you don't see any dependencies doesn't mean you won't
get the new behaviour.

It is strange though that a `emerge --newuse -p world` didn't show
anything to be remerged...
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[gentoo-user] Re: Yipes I lost the ability to smb:// browse

[Harry Putnam]

Harry Putnam <reader@newsguy.com> writes:

> I'm currently recompiling kdebase-kioslaves and cups with samba flag set.

The recompile made the difference.  After recompiling kioslaves with
samba and smb flags set I know have the smb:// browse functionality in
konq again.

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