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[73.238.129.126]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a5-20020a0ce385000000b0064f46918737sm2862909qvl.91.2023.09.17.12.23.44 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 17 Sep 2023 12:23:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2023 15:19:55 -0400 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] What is the point of baloo? Content-Language: en-US-large To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <1acbc1b0-9f39-1fd6-3cc1-6d55ae5eef0d@youngman.org.uk> <4840372.GXAFRqVoOG@rogueboard> <68846133-6221-4e9a-880c-2308cdbf41b3@youngman.org.uk> From: Jack In-Reply-To: <68846133-6221-4e9a-880c-2308cdbf41b3@youngman.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: d75e6faf-5eb0-4a44-ad15-5f625c011113 X-Archives-Hash: 68e9456ae2a85ccffee8ea1e9696c570 On 9/17/23 15:06, Wols Lists wrote: > On 17/09/2023 19:37, Michael wrote: >> However, unlike locate, baloo is meant to index not just file names, >> but also >> metadata tags and relationships relevant to files, emails and >> contacts. Its >> devs would argue it has a small footprint.  So it is meant to >> be*more*  than a >> simple file name indexer. > > But what is the POINT of said index? If there's no point it's just a > total and complete waste of time and space! > > So, far the only point I'm aware of is it is supposed to make kmail > run faster - an application I've never used. While I've also always had KDE indexing turned off, baloo and associated "stuff" allows searching through all your files (or a configurable subset) not just mail.  It lets you find something you know you have but forgot where you stashed it.  Also, I'm pretty sure that that high load is only until baloo finishes one complete pass through all the files it's been told to (or allowed to) index.  After that, it only needs to index new or changed stuff.  I also believe there is a way to limit how much cpu it uses, but I have no idea how, since I (like you and many others) prefer to limit it to 0. You would probably get a better discussion, including at least some reasonable defense of baloo, posting on discuss.kde.org (their current forum system.)  One recent example I did see there is that baloo (with appropriate configuration) can let you see height and width of image files in dolphin (the file manager.) No, I don't have any need for that either, but I can see some users liking it. One thing to keep in mind, I don't think folks like us (Gentoo users in general) are really the primary target of KDE.  I suspect they are (among other things) trying to produce a system that will attract users from "that other OS" who may take things like poor performance but full indexing for granted. Jack