From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EBKEj-0005sy-4N for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 02 Sep 2005 22:42:17 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j82McNNq014143; Fri, 2 Sep 2005 22:38:23 GMT Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.194]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j82MWKw4004419 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Fri, 2 Sep 2005 22:32:21 GMT Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so441081rnf for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Fri, 02 Sep 2005 15:35:02 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ZvS6LtD2ssYXR4q+8fbJ65brNc/t4wmjavvs/RBm5lQ7cUatMrB4eZPuC8vzhMu6eCTHiyj5ny/opC2PQ30ACD3tqYvtxurvgvVI2ZkyKBpPPbjFKDA/RKwGny6VyxjPN0an1xI00G9jzDW47Cvmg/pp+KEI7HhhBRHcl8On/6c= Received: by 10.38.181.6 with SMTP id d6mr291514rnf; Fri, 02 Sep 2005 15:34:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.39.3.65 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Sep 2005 15:34:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <cee44eb3050902153427be38dd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 15:34:53 -0700 From: Wade Brown <wanderer.wcb@gmail.com> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Slightly OT: favorite window manager/desktop environ? In-Reply-To: <20050902215710.GA10715@huxley.linguistik.uni-erlangen.de> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_125_21080540.1125700493926" References: <20050831222821.GB8710@raw-sewage.net> <20050902215710.GA10715@huxley.linguistik.uni-erlangen.de> X-Archives-Salt: 7bc2d85e-de7d-49ff-b5cb-3688d78794c5 X-Archives-Hash: 3ba5dde1c68649ca0d5db2a160d70c61 ------=_Part_125_21080540.1125700493926 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I suppose to make this thread complete I'll be the first (maybe only?) one= =20 to voice support for good old WindowMaker. I think the biggest reason I=20 still use it is that I'm just stuck in a rut, I have been running it for=20 ages and have never wanted anything better. It's definitely light weight=20 enough to suit most needs for people who have that desire, theming exists,= =20 but no actual skinning support. It's a bit boxier than most so for eyecandy= ,=20 it's not stellar, but has a simple clean feel to it. I think my favorite feature is the dockapps (check=20 http://www.bensinclair.com/dockapp/ for examples), which I know are clearly= =20 portable, but integrate most cleanly into WindowMaker. These can provide=20 that desired eyecandy, such as wmBlob, or simple controls to your favorite= =20 programs, like wmXMMS. With adjustable icon width, these can take up almost= =20 no space around your edges leaving plenty of real estate for your web=20 browsers and such. Better still, they don't even have to be reserved space,= =20 they can just fade into the background. One extra bonus to XFCE users is=20 WindowMaker works fairly well with that on top, not that I use it, but I've= =20 known a few people who do because they like the added functionality. I'm sure none of my reasons justify WindowMaker as the best choice for my= =20 desires, but like I said, I'm in a rut, and it's quite comfortable. Maybe= =20 when the bedsores start popping up I'll come back to this thread... -- Wade Brown On 9/2/05, Matthias Bethke <Matthias.Bethke@gmx.net> wrote: >=20 > Hi Matt, > on Wednesday, 2005-08-31 at 17:28:21, you wrote: > > Anyway, I was just hoping to start a "pub"-style conversation on > > what people like/disklike in a window manager. >=20 > It's been XFCE here for a while. When I ran NetBSD years ago, nothing > but fvwm would run at decent speed (not that there had been much > choice), so I used this for a while. Then it was Linux/KDE for a while > on a 486, which was quite a pain. When I discovered Gnome, I liked the > clean look of GTK and its speed. Version 2 annoyed me because everything > got fatter and had less features than the 1.x version, but I stuck with > it out of inertia, it was well configured and all... > XFCE is for me what Gnome used to be: slim and fast, a clean look and > just as many knobs to tweak as I need but no more. > Now, WMII looks interesting as well. Unlikely I'm going to switch but > I'll have a look at it. >=20 > cheers! > Matthias >=20 > -- > I prefer encrypted and signed messages. KeyID: 90CF8389 > Fingerprint: 8E 1F 10 81 A4 66 29 46 B9 8A B9 E2 09 9F 3B 91 >=20 >=20 > ------=_Part_125_21080540.1125700493926 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I suppose to make this thread complete I'll be the first (maybe only?) one to voice support for good old WindowMaker. I think the biggest reason I still use it is that I'm just stuck in a rut, I have been running it for ages and have never wanted anything better. It's definitely light weight enough to suit most needs for people who have that desire, theming exists, but no actual skinning support. It's a bit boxier than most so for eyecandy, it's not stellar, but has a simple clean feel to it.<br> <br> I think my favorite feature is the dockapps (check <a href=3D"http://www.bensinclair.com/dockapp/">http://www.bensinclair.com/= dockapp/</a> for examples), which I know are clearly portable, but integrate most cleanly into WindowMaker. These can provide that desired eyecandy, such as wmBlob, or simple controls to your favorite programs, like wmXMMS. With adjustable icon width, these can take up almost no space around your edges leaving plenty of real estate for your web browsers and such. Better still, they don't even have to be reserved space, they can just fade into the background. One extra bonus to XFCE users is WindowMaker works fairly well with that on top, not that I use it, but I've known a few people who do because they like the added functionality.<br> <br> I'm sure none of my reasons justify WindowMaker as the best choice for my desires, but like I said, I'm in a rut, and it's quite comfortable. Maybe when the bedsores start popping up I'll come back to this thread...<br> <br> --<br> Wade Brown<br><br><div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 9/2/05, <b class=3D"g= mail_sendername">Matthias Bethke</b> <<a href=3D"mailto:Matthias.Bethke@= gmx.net">Matthias.Bethke@gmx.net</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class=3D"= gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0p= t 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Hi Matt,<br>on Wednesday, 2005-08-31 at 17:28:21, you wrote:<br>> Anyway= , I was just hoping to start a "pub"-style conversation on<br>>= ; what people like/disklike in a window manager.<br><br>It's been XFCE here= for a while. When I ran NetBSD years ago, nothing <br>but fvwm would run at decent speed (not that there had been much<br>cho= ice), so I used this for a while. Then it was Linux/KDE for a while<br>on a= 486, which was quite a pain. When I discovered Gnome, I liked the<br>clean= look of GTK and its speed. Version 2 annoyed me because everything <br>got fatter and had less features than the 1.x version, but I stuck with= <br>it out of inertia, it was well configured and all...<br>XFCE is for me = what Gnome used to be: slim and fast, a clean look and<br>just as many knob= s to tweak as I need but no more. <br>Now, WMII looks interesting as well. Unlikely I'm going to switch but<b= r>I'll have a look at it.<br><br>cheers!<br> &= nbsp; Matthias<br><br>--<br>I prefer encrypted and signed messag= es. KeyID: 90CF8389<br>Fingerprint: 8E = 1F 10 81 A4 66 29 46 B9 8A B9 E2 09 9F 3B 91 <br><br><br></blockquote></div><br> ------=_Part_125_21080540.1125700493926-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list