I suppose to make this thread complete I'll be the first (maybe only?) one to voice support for good old WindowMaker. I think the biggest reason I still use it is that I'm just stuck in a rut, I have been running it for ages and have never wanted anything better. It's definitely light weight enough to suit most needs for people who have that desire, theming exists, but no actual skinning support. It's a bit boxier than most so for eyecandy, it's not stellar, but has a simple clean feel to it. I think my favorite feature is the dockapps (check http://www.bensinclair.com/dockapp/ for examples), which I know are clearly portable, but integrate most cleanly into WindowMaker. These can provide that desired eyecandy, such as wmBlob, or simple controls to your favorite programs, like wmXMMS. With adjustable icon width, these can take up almost no space around your edges leaving plenty of real estate for your web browsers and such. Better still, they don't even have to be reserved space, they can just fade into the background. One extra bonus to XFCE users is WindowMaker works fairly well with that on top, not that I use it, but I've known a few people who do because they like the added functionality. I'm sure none of my reasons justify WindowMaker as the best choice for my desires, but like I said, I'm in a rut, and it's quite comfortable. Maybe when the bedsores start popping up I'll come back to this thread... -- Wade Brown On 9/2/05, Matthias Bethke wrote: > > Hi Matt, > on Wednesday, 2005-08-31 at 17:28:21, you wrote: > > Anyway, I was just hoping to start a "pub"-style conversation on > > what people like/disklike in a window manager. > > It's been XFCE here for a while. When I ran NetBSD years ago, nothing > but fvwm would run at decent speed (not that there had been much > choice), so I used this for a while. Then it was Linux/KDE for a while > on a 486, which was quite a pain. When I discovered Gnome, I liked the > clean look of GTK and its speed. Version 2 annoyed me because everything > got fatter and had less features than the 1.x version, but I stuck with > it out of inertia, it was well configured and all... > XFCE is for me what Gnome used to be: slim and fast, a clean look and > just as many knobs to tweak as I need but no more. > Now, WMII looks interesting as well. Unlikely I'm going to switch but > I'll have a look at it. > > cheers! > Matthias > > -- > I prefer encrypted and signed messages. KeyID: 90CF8389 > Fingerprint: 8E 1F 10 81 A4 66 29 46 B9 8A B9 E2 09 9F 3B 91 > > >