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Sapiens are its perpetrators? > My point was, things were done and they changed.  After that change, it got better.  All the battling back and forth seemed to actually slow the progress of Gentoo.  It wasn't helpful for sure.  Last I checked, devs are human.  Dale :-)  :-)  --------------A0AD73E09061987A667DDFF8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Steven Lembark wrote:
On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 20:49:42 -0500
Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

Aside:


It made one glad that
they could only use keyboards instead of dueling pistols.  Then they
created moderators with people to enforce some rules.  It got better. 
Actually, a lot better.  Still, every once in a while, someone feels
someone else's foot on their toes and it gets a little tense. 

Q: What part of the entirety of human history have you *not* 
   described?

Put it another way:

Q: Why should anyone ever expect Gentoo to somehow not reflect the
   fact that H. Sapiens are its perpetrators?

My point was, things were done and they changed.  After that change, it got better.  All the battling back and forth seemed to actually slow the progress of Gentoo.  It wasn't helpful for sure.  Last I checked, devs are human. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 
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