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Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> Am Mon, Feb 24, 2025 at 01:02:31PM -0700 schrieb eric:
>
>> When I click on the link, Amazon offers similar products of 1 TB NVMe M.2
>> drives for a few dollars more with the links provided below. One is $14 more
>> and the other is $5 more. I can not comment on how good they are as I don't
>> have any experience with these types of drives.
>>
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-2280-Internal-SNV2S-1000G/dp/B0BBWH1R8H
>>
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Silicon-Power-NVMe-Gen3x4-SP001TBP34A60M28/dp/B07ZGJVTZK
> I admit I am a tech snob: While I don’t buy the most powerful stuff, I
> wouldn’t want the low-end leftovers either. I tend to choose a good
> middle-way between budget and quality. Quality not only means that it
> reaches certain speeds and IOPS, but that it has a good amount of warranty,
> both in years and in write volume. For example, the middle-tier SSDs have
> five years of warranty (at least here on ye Olde Continent). So just going
> by the price is something I would only do if money is truly tight and the
> item is needed urgently. Raw speed is not everything, and you never know
> what you might use the SSD for at a later date.
>
> Therefore, I don’t recommend relying on just the price and on Amazon
> descriptions. Amazon is the Wild West of tech resale; descriptions are
> unreliable, inaccurate, out-of-date. I always prefer a price/product
> comparison site which offers filtering for all kinds of technical
> properties, or actual tech reviews (and not just articles that repeat what’s
> on the package).
>
> In my PC hardware forum at computerbase.de, some of the most-often
> recommended budget NVMes these days are the Kioxia Exceria and the Lexar
> NM790 series. They offer good performance, TLC flash and a warranty of 5
> years and good TBW values. The Crucial E100 and Kingston NV2 for comparison
> only have 3 years and low TBWs.
>
> According to this two years old computerbase review, the NV2 *may* have good
> part, but may not just as well. It’s one of those component lottery series,
> for both the controller and the NAND flash:
> https://www.computerbase.de/artikel/storage/kingston-nv2-ssd-test.82579/
> (put it into google translate, if you’re interested to read it)
>
> My above argumentation is what I mean by being a tech snob. It should work
> fine in a USB enclosure with light loads, but I find it too low-end as a
> system drive just to save a few bucks.
> In April 2022 I bought a Samsung Evo 970 Plus a system drive. It’s not
> high-end by any means (and it wasn’t back when I bought it), but good
> middle-class. It’s only PCIe 3.0, but I wouldn’t notice a difference between
> 3.0 and 4.0 anyways. I wouldn’t even between SATA and slow PCIe.
>
I'm kinda the same way. I rarely buy the latest stuff. To often, it is
just to pricey. Drop down a little and save a lot of money and the
performance is almost as good. I'm the same on this m.2 external
stick. I don't need the very latest products. Odds are, my USB is
going to be the bottleneck anyway. My enclosure will likely do its job
for years. Even the stick will be fine unless I build a new system with
USB 5.0 or whatever comes next.
I've read Samsung is the most dependable for SSD stuff and good
performance wise as well. I'm not saying others aren't good just that
Samsung is what others want to be. The one in my main rig is performing
very well, especially since I have that massive cooler on it. Speed
wise, this Crucial is fine. I just hope it holds up ok. It's not a
Samsung for sure. It seems it has a shorter life span, maybe. Time
will tell.
If anyone knows of a brand that is better than Samsung say 990 series,
I'm open to the info. Given they are all fast, dependability is the
biggest thing. For the one I plan to store in my fire safe, it needs to
be able to sit a long while and not lose data. I'm not sure how all
that works. I just can't keep up with all the changes that happen
nowadays.
Dale
:-) :-)
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Frank Steinmetzger wrote:<br>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Am Mon, Feb 24, 2025 at 01:02:31PM -0700 schrieb eric:
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">When I click on the link, Amazon offers similar products of 1 TB NVMe M.2
drives for a few dollars more with the links provided below. One is $14 more
and the other is $5 more. I can not comment on how good they are as I don't
have any experience with these types of drives.
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-2280-Internal-SNV2S-1000G/dp/B0BBWH1R8H" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-2280-Internal-SNV2S-1000G/dp/B0BBWH1R8H</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.amazon.com/Silicon-Power-NVMe-Gen3x4-SP001TBP34A60M28/dp/B07ZGJVTZK" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.amazon.com/Silicon-Power-NVMe-Gen3x4-SP001TBP34A60M28/dp/B07ZGJVTZK</a>
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">I admit I am a tech snob: While I don’t buy the most powerful stuff, I
wouldn’t want the low-end leftovers either. I tend to choose a good
middle-way between budget and quality. Quality not only means that it
reaches certain speeds and IOPS, but that it has a good amount of warranty,
both in years and in write volume. For example, the middle-tier SSDs have
five years of warranty (at least here on ye Olde Continent). So just going
by the price is something I would only do if money is truly tight and the
item is needed urgently. Raw speed is not everything, and you never know
what you might use the SSD for at a later date.
Therefore, I don’t recommend relying on just the price and on Amazon
descriptions. Amazon is the Wild West of tech resale; descriptions are
unreliable, inaccurate, out-of-date. I always prefer a price/product
comparison site which offers filtering for all kinds of technical
properties, or actual tech reviews (and not just articles that repeat what’s
on the package).
In my PC hardware forum at computerbase.de, some of the most-often
recommended budget NVMes these days are the Kioxia Exceria and the Lexar
NM790 series. They offer good performance, TLC flash and a warranty of 5
years and good TBW values. The Crucial E100 and Kingston NV2 for comparison
only have 3 years and low TBWs.
According to this two years old computerbase review, the NV2 <b class="moz-txt-star"><span class="moz-txt-tag">*</span>may<span class="moz-txt-tag">*</span></b> have good
part, but may not just as well. It’s one of those component lottery series,
for both the controller and the NAND flash:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.computerbase.de/artikel/storage/kingston-nv2-ssd-test.82579/" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.computerbase.de/artikel/storage/kingston-nv2-ssd-test.82579/</a>
(put it into google translate, if you’re interested to read it)
My above argumentation is what I mean by being a tech snob. It should work
fine in a USB enclosure with light loads, but I find it too low-end as a
system drive just to save a few bucks.
In April 2022 I bought a Samsung Evo 970 Plus a system drive. It’s not
high-end by any means (and it wasn’t back when I bought it), but good
middle-class. It’s only PCIe 3.0, but I wouldn’t notice a difference between
3.0 and 4.0 anyways. I wouldn’t even between SATA and slow PCIe.
</pre>
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</blockquote>
<br>
I'm kinda the same way. I rarely buy the latest stuff. To often,
it is just to pricey. Drop down a little and save a lot of money
and the performance is almost as good. I'm the same on this m.2
external stick. I don't need the very latest products. Odds are,
my USB is going to be the bottleneck anyway. My enclosure will
likely do its job for years. Even the stick will be fine unless I
build a new system with USB 5.0 or whatever comes next. <br>
<br>
I've read Samsung is the most dependable for SSD stuff and good
performance wise as well. I'm not saying others aren't good just
that Samsung is what others want to be. The one in my main rig is
performing very well, especially since I have that massive cooler on
it. Speed wise, this Crucial is fine. I just hope it holds up ok.
It's not a Samsung for sure. It seems it has a shorter life span,
maybe. Time will tell. <br>
<br>
If anyone knows of a brand that is better than Samsung say 990
series, I'm open to the info. Given they are all fast,
dependability is the biggest thing. For the one I plan to store in
my fire safe, it needs to be able to sit a long while and not lose
data. I'm not sure how all that works. I just can't keep up with
all the changes that happen nowadays. <br>
<br>
Dale <br>
<br>
:-) :-) <br>
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