[gentoo-user] Creating Blue-ray video discs

[gentoo-user] Creating Blue-ray video discs

[Dale]

Howdy,

A few weeks ago, I ran up on a deal on a Blu-ray burner.  It's a LG and
smartctrl -i shows this:


=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Vendor:               HL-DT-ST
Product:              BD-RE  WH16NS40
Revision:             1.04
Compliance:           SPC-3
>> Terminate command early due to bad response to IEC mode page
A mandatory SMART command failed: exiting. To continue, add one or more
'-T permissive' options.



Anyway, I have some HD videos I want to burn to a Blu-ray disc in HD. 
I've used Devede and Devedeng to create DVDs for a while.  I prefer the
old Devede but the new ng version works well.  It doesn't however seem
to create Blu-ray discs.  I googled and found how to play some of them
at least that are commercially made.  I can't find however what software
is used to create my own. 

Does anyone know what software to use to create HD video Blu-ray discs? 
I'm hoping to use them as backup media as well, in addition to other
backup methods.  Right now, I want to create a few video ones to play in
a blu-ray player. 

Thanks much for any info. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] Creating Blue-ray video discs

[Ashley Dixon]

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On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 04:02:02AM -0500, Dale wrote:
> Anyway, I have some HD videos I want to burn to a Blu-ray disc in HD. 
> I've used Devede and Devedeng to create DVDs for a while.  I prefer the
> old Devede but the new ng version works well.  It doesn't however seem
> to create Blu-ray discs.  I googled and found how to play some of them
> at least that are commercially made.  I can't find however what software
> is used to create my own. 
> 
> Does anyone know what software to use to create HD video Blu-ray discs? 
> I'm hoping to use them as backup media as well, in addition to other
> backup methods.  Right now, I want to create a few video ones to play in
> a blu-ray player. 

Have you tried Xfburn (`app-cdr/xfburn`) ?   Unfortunately  it  is  a  graphical
application (GTK+) with a somewhat-ugly user interface, but does claim  to  burn
Blu-Rays.  I can only vouch for its stability with  standard  D.V.D.s,  although
it's worth a try.

https://docs.xfce.org/apps/xfburn

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Re: [gentoo-user] Creating Blue-ray video discs

[Dale]

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Ashley Dixon wrote:
> On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 04:02:02AM -0500, Dale wrote:
>> Anyway, I have some HD videos I want to burn to a Blu-ray disc in HD. 
>> I've used Devede and Devedeng to create DVDs for a while.  I prefer the
>> old Devede but the new ng version works well.  It doesn't however seem
>> to create Blu-ray discs.  I googled and found how to play some of them
>> at least that are commercially made.  I can't find however what software
>> is used to create my own. 
>>
>> Does anyone know what software to use to create HD video Blu-ray discs? 
>> I'm hoping to use them as backup media as well, in addition to other
>> backup methods.  Right now, I want to create a few video ones to play in
>> a blu-ray player. 
> Have you tried Xfburn (`app-cdr/xfburn`) ?   Unfortunately  it  is  a  graphical
> application (GTK+) with a somewhat-ugly user interface, but does claim  to  burn
> Blu-Rays.  I can only vouch for its stability with  standard  D.V.D.s,  although
> it's worth a try.
>
> https://docs.xfce.org/apps/xfburn
>


I'm emerging that now.  I found the USE flag bluray and put in
make.conf.  Is there any other flags that I need to enable?  Maybe some
decoding type thing that isn't obvious? 

There's a file somewhere that contains all the USE flags and their
description.  I can't seem to locate it anymore.  Anyone recall where
that file is?  I thought it was in the tree somewhere but I don't see it.

Thanks for the info.  Going to see what it looks like.  I've never done
anything with a blu-ray before.  I'm totally clueless about them.  It
seems they are very different from a DVD.  It's not just able to stuff
in more data but requires a whole new toolbox to use.  This is gonna be
a learning experience it seems. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Creating Blue-ray video discs

[Joerg Schilling]

Ashley Dixon <ash@suugaku.co.uk> wrote:

> Have you tried Xfburn (`app-cdr/xfburn`) ?   Unfortunately  it  is  a  graphical
> application (GTK+) with a somewhat-ugly user interface, but does claim  to  burn
> Blu-Rays.  I can only vouch for its stability with  standard  D.V.D.s,  although
> it's worth a try.
>

I don't believe this was the question.

cdrecord of course writes BluRays since 2007, but the question was for software 
that prepares the data to create a compliant filesystem content.

BTW: for a compliant medium, you of course also need an UDF filesystem that is 
not supported by the software you mention but that is supported by mkisofs that 
is (like cdrecord) part of the cdrtools project.

Jörg

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Re: [gentoo-user] Creating Blue-ray video discs

[Ashley Dixon]

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On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 11:57:32AM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> I don't believe this was the question.
> 
> cdrecord of course writes BluRays since 2007, but the question was for software 
> that prepares the data to create a compliant filesystem content.

"create a compliant filesystem content"

I'm not sure I understand exactly what you mean.  Do you mean software which can
appropriately pack and format the data to be viewed on  a  conventional  Blu-Ray
player ? I haven't used Xfburn in quite a while, but from what I remember, it is
capable of doing so, at least with conventional D.V.D.s.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Creating Blue-ray video discs

[Dale]

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Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Ashley Dixon <ash@suugaku.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Have you tried Xfburn (`app-cdr/xfburn`) ?   Unfortunately  it  is  a  graphical
>> application (GTK+) with a somewhat-ugly user interface, but does claim  to  burn
>> Blu-Rays.  I can only vouch for its stability with  standard  D.V.D.s,  although
>> it's worth a try.
>>
> I don't believe this was the question.
>
> cdrecord of course writes BluRays since 2007, but the question was for software 
> that prepares the data to create a compliant filesystem content.
>
> BTW: for a compliant medium, you of course also need an UDF filesystem that is 
> not supported by the software you mention but that is supported by mkisofs that 
> is (like cdrecord) part of the cdrtools project.
>
> Jörg
>


I think you are correct.  To create a DVD with videos to watch on a TV
DVD player, I use Devede to create the image and then k3b to burn the
image.  It seems I need some sort of tool, like devede does for DVDs, to
create a image or whatever to burn to a blu-ray media.  Since Devede
doesn't do that, what is it that I use to do what Devede does for a
DVD?  I'd suspect that I can't just copy a video to a blu-ray disk and
it play on a Blu-ray player like hooks to a TV.  Still, other helpful
hints are welcome.  I'm sure I'm about to learn quite a bit about this. 
The more I read, the more I get that this is different from a DVD, in a
lot of ways.  :/

I hope this is doable.  I got some nice HD videos I'd like to share.  I
have some nice HD videos about gardening off youtube and one that I
downloaded, it is available for free. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Creating Blue-ray video discs

[Ashley Dixon]

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On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 04:56:10AM -0500, Dale wrote:
> I'm emerging that now.  I found the USE flag bluray and put in
> make.conf.  Is there any other flags that I need to enable?  Maybe some
> decoding type thing that isn't obvious?

The `bluray` flag does exist in Gentoo for some packages, but  setting  it  will
not have an effect on Xfburn or any of its dependencies [1].

        $ equery g xfburn

        app-cdr/xfburn-0.6.2:
         [  0]  app-cdr/xfburn-0.6.2   
         [  1]  dev-libs/glib-2.62.6   
         [  1]  dev-libs/libburn-1.5.2_p1   
         [  1]  dev-libs/libisofs-1.5.2   
         [  1]  x11-libs/gtk+-3.24.16   
         [  1]  xfce-base/exo-0.12.11   
         [  1]  xfce-base/libxfce4ui-4.14.1   
         [  1]  media-libs/gstreamer-1.14.5   
         [  1]  media-libs/gst-plugins-base-1.14.5-r1   
         [  1]  dev-libs/libgudev-233-r1   
         [  1]  dev-util/intltool-0.51.0-r2   
         [  1]  sys-devel/gettext-0.20.1   
         [  1]  virtual/pkgconfig-1

> There's a file somewhere that contains all the USE flags and their
> description.  I can't seem to locate it anymore.  Anyone recall where
> that file is?  I thought it was in the tree somewhere but I don't see it.

I couldn't find anything in gentoo.git, but there's an on-line index at [2].

[1] https://packages.gentoo.org/useflags/search?q=bluray
[2] https://gentoo.org/support/use-flags/

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Re: [gentoo-user] Creating Blue-ray video discs

[Joerg Schilling]

Ashley Dixon <ash@suugaku.co.uk> wrote:

> On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 11:57:32AM +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> > I don't believe this was the question.
> > 
> > cdrecord of course writes BluRays since 2007, but the question was for software 
> > that prepares the data to create a compliant filesystem content.
>
> "create a compliant filesystem content"
>
> I'm not sure I understand exactly what you mean.  Do you mean software which can
> appropriately pack and format the data to be viewed on  a  conventional  Blu-Ray
> player ? I haven't used Xfburn in quite a while, but from what I remember, it is
> capable of doing so, at least with conventional D.V.D.s.

definitely not unless it is using mkisofs.

Software based on Xorriso does not support UDF and creates less compliant 
ISO-8859-1 and Rock Rich filesystems than mkisofs.

Jörg

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Re: [gentoo-user] Creating Blue-ray video discs

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Fri, 29 May 2020 04:56:10 -0500, Dale wrote:

> There's a file somewhere that contains all the USE flags and their
> description.  I can't seem to locate it anymore.  Anyone recall where
> that file is?  I thought it was in the tree somewhere but I don't see
> it.

$PORTDIR/profiles/use.desc
$PORTDIR/profiles/use.local.desc

or you can emerge app-portage/euses.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Creating Blue-ray video discs

[Andrew Udvare]

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On Fri, May 29, 2020, 05:02 Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

> Howdy,
>
> A few weeks ago, I ran up on a deal on a Blu-ray burner.  It's a LG and
> smartctrl -i shows this:
>
>
> === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
> Vendor:               HL-DT-ST
> Product:              BD-RE  WH16NS40
> Revision:             1.04
> Compliance:           SPC-3
> >> Terminate command early due to bad response to IEC mode page
> A mandatory SMART command failed: exiting. To continue, add one or more
> '-T permissive' options.
>
>
>
> Anyway, I have some HD videos I want to burn to a Blu-ray disc in HD.
> I've used Devede and Devedeng to create DVDs for a while.  I prefer the
> old Devede but the new ng version works well.  It doesn't however seem
> to create Blu-ray discs.  I googled and found how to play some of them
> at least that are commercially made.  I can't find however what software
> is used to create my own.
>
> Does anyone know what software to use to create HD video Blu-ray discs?
>

You're referring to Blu-ray authoring like creating menus and making a
video disc that works in a set-top player. There isn't any software for
Linux I know of that does this, especially the menu part. The menu part can
be in a simple format or it can be more advanced with BD-J.

Studios use Scenarist BD
https://www.scenarist.com/scenarist-bd-professional-blu-ray-disc-authoring/

There's MultiAVCHD for free. Maybe it works with Wine?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Creating Blue-ray video discs

[Dale]

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Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Fri, 29 May 2020 04:56:10 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>> There's a file somewhere that contains all the USE flags and their
>> description.  I can't seem to locate it anymore.  Anyone recall where
>> that file is?  I thought it was in the tree somewhere but I don't see
>> it.
> $PORTDIR/profiles/use.desc
> $PORTDIR/profiles/use.local.desc
>
> or you can emerge app-portage/euses.
>
>


There it is.  Now I got the file to look at.  I use euse, different from
the one you mentioned since it's from gentoolkit, but the thing about
it, you have to know the name of the USE flag before you can get info
about it.  I've only used euse -i tho.  I add entries to files by hand
and sort them in a way that it sometimes helps me remember why they are
there.  Old age thing again.  lol 

I'm looking into euses but didn't know it existed before now.  Another
tool to keep track of.  <Dale rolls his eyes>  Any tips or trcks for it?? 

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Creating Blue-ray video discs

[Dale]

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Andrew Udvare wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, May 29, 2020, 05:02 Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com
> <mailto:rdalek1967@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Howdy,
>
>     A few weeks ago, I ran up on a deal on a Blu-ray burner.  It's a
>     LG and
>     smartctrl -i shows this:
>
>
>     === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
>     Vendor:               HL-DT-ST
>     Product:              BD-RE  WH16NS40
>     Revision:             1.04
>     Compliance:           SPC-3
>     >> Terminate command early due to bad response to IEC mode page
>     A mandatory SMART command failed: exiting. To continue, add one or
>     more
>     '-T permissive' options.
>
>
>
>     Anyway, I have some HD videos I want to burn to a Blu-ray disc in HD. 
>     I've used Devede and Devedeng to create DVDs for a while.  I
>     prefer the
>     old Devede but the new ng version works well.  It doesn't however seem
>     to create Blu-ray discs.  I googled and found how to play some of them
>     at least that are commercially made.  I can't find however what
>     software
>     is used to create my own. 
>
>     Does anyone know what software to use to create HD video Blu-ray
>     discs? 
>
>
> You're referring to Blu-ray authoring like creating menus and making a
> video disc that works in a set-top player. There isn't any software
> for Linux I know of that does this, especially the menu part. The menu
> part can be in a simple format or it can be more advanced with BD-J.
>
> Studios use Scenarist
> BD https://www.scenarist.com/scenarist-bd-professional-blu-ray-disc-authoring/
>
> There's MultiAVCHD for free. Maybe it works with Wine?


I tried wine once, it was a disaster.  I can't recall what little
program I was trying to run but it never did. It seems that what I want
to do isn't doable on Linux and requires software that has to be
purchased at that.  That's disappointing that Linux can't do this. 
Looks like I'll have to use my new Blu-ray burner for data backups. 
Bummer.  I really wanted to make that gardening video HD.  No wonder
people use their game boxes and buy media centers that have hard drives
in them and then stream things from the internet.  Basically, other than
storing data files, Blu-ray isn't worth much except for commercially
made media. 

Well, even if I knew this before, I'm still glad to have the thing.  It
certainly holds more files than a DVD. 

If anyone knows of a tool to do this, I'm all ears. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

P. S.  Time to go to the doctor and get my weekly shots. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Creating Blue-ray video discs

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Fri, 29 May 2020 07:17:28 -0500, Dale wrote:

> I'm looking into euses but didn't know it existed before now.  Another
> tool to keep track of.  <Dale rolls his eyes>  Any tips or trcks for
> it?? 

Yes, don't have make.conf as a directory, euses breaks itself in that
case.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Creating Blue-ray video discs

[Dale]

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Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Fri, 29 May 2020 07:17:28 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>> I'm looking into euses but didn't know it existed before now.  Another
>> tool to keep track of.  <Dale rolls his eyes>  Any tips or trcks for
>> it?? 
> Yes, don't have make.conf as a directory, euses breaks itself in that
> case.
>
>


I have make.conf as a file still.  I plan to keep it that way for the
moment tho.  I do have package.use and friends as directories tho.  Does
it work OK with that? 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Creating Blue-ray video discs

[Gerrit Kühn]

Am Fri, 29 May 2020 05:14:41 -0500
schrieb Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>:

> I think you are correct.  To create a DVD with videos to watch on a TV
> DVD player, I use Devede to create the image and then k3b to burn the
> image.  It seems I need some sort of tool, like devede does for DVDs, to
> create a image or whatever to burn to a blu-ray media.

Would this help?
<https://github.com/justdan96/tsMuxer>


cu
  Gerrit

Re: [gentoo-user] Creating Blue-ray video discs

[Ashley Dixon]

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On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 07:56:32AM -0500, Dale wrote:
> Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > On Fri, 29 May 2020 07:17:28 -0500, Dale wrote:
> >
> >> I'm looking into euses but didn't know it existed before now.  Another
> >> tool to keep track of.  <Dale rolls his eyes>  Any tips or trcks for
> >> it?? 
> > Yes, don't have make.conf as a directory, euses breaks itself in that
> > case.
>
> I have make.conf as a file still.  I plan to keep it that way for the
> moment tho.  I do have package.use and friends as directories tho.  Does
> it work OK with that? 


Euses breaks itself in almost every case for new systems; it is in  severe  need
of an upgrade. See bug [1]. It  relies on $PORTDIR which has been deprecated for
many years [2] in favour of the per-repo.conf `location` attribute [2].

[1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/663706
[2] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/PORTDIR

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Re: [gentoo-user] Creating Blue-ray video discs

[Dale]

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Ashley Dixon wrote:
> On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 07:56:32AM -0500, Dale wrote:
>> Neil Bothwick wrote:
>>> On Fri, 29 May 2020 07:17:28 -0500, Dale wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm looking into euses but didn't know it existed before now.  Another
>>>> tool to keep track of.  <Dale rolls his eyes>  Any tips or trcks for
>>>> it?? 
>>> Yes, don't have make.conf as a directory, euses breaks itself in that
>>> case.
>> I have make.conf as a file still.  I plan to keep it that way for the
>> moment tho.  I do have package.use and friends as directories tho.  Does
>> it work OK with that? 
>
> Euses breaks itself in almost every case for new systems; it is in  severe  need
> of an upgrade. See bug [1]. It  relies on $PORTDIR which has been deprecated for
> many years [2] in favour of the per-repo.conf `location` attribute [2].
>
> [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/663706
> [2] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/PORTDIR
>


Ahhhh, I'll install it but make sure my /etc/ backup is up to date. 
;-)  I'll likely just read the man page, see what it does etc and maybe
use it for info purposes.  Sort of like euse -i does.  It doesn't'
change anything, just spits out info, usually it doesn't help much but
anyway.  lol 

Wonder why it is not being kept up to date.  Maintainer no longer
interested in it, other tools took its place???

Dale

:-)  :-) 

P. S. Back from being a pin cushion. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Creating Blue-ray video discs

[Dale]

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Gerrit Kühn wrote:
> Am Fri, 29 May 2020 05:14:41 -0500
> schrieb Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>:
>
>> I think you are correct.  To create a DVD with videos to watch on a TV
>> DVD player, I use Devede to create the image and then k3b to burn the
>> image.  It seems I need some sort of tool, like devede does for DVDs, to
>> create a image or whatever to burn to a blu-ray media.
> Would this help?
> <https://github.com/justdan96/tsMuxer>
>
>
> cu
>   Gerrit
>
>


I'm not sure.  I looked at the github page but as usual, the info there
is sparse, it's more of a dev thing so it should be.  I'll check the
home page and google to see if I can figure out what all it does.  My
problem right now, I know really nothing about Blu-ray stuff.  I sort of
understand DVDs but never touched a Blu-ray disc until I bought this
thing.  I did get 100 of the BD-R thingys tho.  I can back up my pics
and stuff for sure.  I plan to get the rewriteable ones later on.  I
won't need that many of those.  I think those are BD-RE or something. 

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Creating Blue-ray video discs

[Ashley Dixon]

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On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 10:12:44AM -0500, Dale wrote:
> Wonder why it is not being kept up to date.  Maintainer no longer
> interested in it, other tools took its place???

The code developer is a Gentoo developer.  I've looked at the C (one  file)  and
it's not  particularly  good  code;  100+  line  functions  with  a  few  memory
leaks and generally poor C-programming practices.  I would advise against  using
it, especially considering  that  it  doesn't  provide  any  functionality  over
grepping through use{,.local}.desc or using the on-line index.

It also has a few other silly bugs [1] and quirks; I'd be very dissatisfied if a
programmer under my (hypothetical) employment wrote such code.

The maintainer/developer also seems to have a very carefree attitude to  serious
bug reports, such as replying with "euses checks  for  an  environment  variable
PORTDIR.  Does this help?" to the report regarding his tool relying  heavily  on
deprecated features.

[1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/715748

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Re: [gentoo-user] Creating Blue-ray video discs

[Laurence Perkins]

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 Best Regards,




Laurence Perkins
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On Fri, 2020-05-29 at 07:38 -0500, Dale wrote:
Andrew Udvare wrote:


On Fri, May 29, 2020, 05:02 Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com<mailto:rdalek1967@gmail.com>> wrote:
Howdy,

A few weeks ago, I ran up on a deal on a Blu-ray burner.  It's a LG and
smartctrl -i shows this:


=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Vendor:               HL-DT-ST
Product:              BD-RE  WH16NS40
Revision:             1.04
Compliance:           SPC-3
>> Terminate command early due to bad response to IEC mode page
A mandatory SMART command failed: exiting. To continue, add one or more
'-T permissive' options.



Anyway, I have some HD videos I want to burn to a Blu-ray disc in HD.
I've used Devede and Devedeng to create DVDs for a while.  I prefer the
old Devede but the new ng version works well.  It doesn't however seem
to create Blu-ray discs.  I googled and found how to play some of them
at least that are commercially made.  I can't find however what software
is used to create my own.

Does anyone know what software to use to create HD video Blu-ray discs?


You're referring to Blu-ray authoring like creating menus and making a video disc that works in a set-top player. There isn't any software for Linux I know of that does this, especially the menu part. The menu part can be in a simple format or it can be more advanced with BD-J.

Studios use Scenarist BD https://www.scenarist.com/scenarist-bd-professional-blu-ray-disc-authoring/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.scenarist.com_scenarist-2Dbd-2Dprofessional-2Dblu-2Dray-2Ddisc-2Dauthoring_&d=DwMDaQ&c=sJXHf1mumFHnbuqawQcOuA&r=MLC99WkEiyNGhxWZ52v4PVQ0MpIXOzl3Sdnj9liHsoY&m=7KzhgdyvQguAgsRtkWBlr7r0zIc1OY7g8XtBQeqhQgg&s=_FHRC6Ym3RznZj5OX4x3vfbM7CFO-_7MEgvpvyinzik&e=>

There's MultiAVCHD for free. Maybe it works with Wine?


I tried wine once, it was a disaster.  I can't recall what little program I was trying to run but it never did. It seems that what I want to do isn't doable on Linux and requires software that has to be purchased at that.  That's disappointing that Linux can't do this.  Looks like I'll have to use my new Blu-ray burner for data backups.  Bummer.  I really wanted to make that gardening video HD.  No wonder people use their game boxes and buy media centers that have hard drives in them and then stream things from the internet.  Basically, other than storing data files, Blu-ray isn't worth much except for commercially made media.

Well, even if I knew this before, I'm still glad to have the thing.  It certainly holds more files than a DVD.

If anyone knows of a tool to do this, I'm all ears.

Dale

:-)  :-)

P. S.  Time to go to the doctor and get my weekly shots.

note that blu-ray r and re disks are only bit stable for about 5 years. i recommend dvdisaster for upping the amount of ecc data to reduce your lossage.

doing some quick reading, it looks like you just need to get the right filesystem, filenames, and video codecs on the disk. it's different from dvd, but should be documented somewhere. i don't have time to go hunting for it right now, but if nothing else some examination of a blu-ray that plays correctly should show you what goes where.

lmp

p.s. apologies; shift key isn't working.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Creating Blue-ray video discs

[Jack]

On 2020.05.29 12:00, Ashley Dixon wrote:
> On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 10:12:44AM -0500, Dale wrote:
> > Wonder why it is not being kept up to date.  Maintainer no longer
> > interested in it, other tools took its place???
> 
> The code developer is a Gentoo developer.  I've looked at the C (one   
> file)  and
> it's not  particularly  good  code;  100+  line  functions  with  a   
> few  memory
> leaks and generally poor C-programming practices.  I would advise  
> against  using
> it, especially considering  that  it  doesn't  provide  any   
> functionality  over
> grepping through use{,.local}.desc or using the on-line index.
> 
> It also has a few other silly bugs [1] and quirks; I'd be very  
> dissatisfied if a
> programmer under my (hypothetical) employment wrote such code.
> 
> The maintainer/developer also seems to have a very carefree attitude  
> to  serious
> bug reports, such as replying with "euses checks  for  an   
> environment  variable
> PORTDIR.  Does this help?" to the report regarding his tool relying   
> heavily  on
> deprecated features.
> 
> [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/715748
I'm a bit confused here.  That bug is filed against app-portage/euses,  
but it complains about euse, and specifically at the  end of the  
initial report it says app-portage/gentoolkit-0.4.6.  Do both  
gentoolkit and euses have their own "euse" command? (I don't plan to  
emerge euses just to test that.)

Re: [gentoo-user] Creating Blue-ray video discs

[Ashley Dixon]

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On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 12:48:30PM -0400, Jack wrote:
> On 2020.05.29 12:00, Ashley Dixon wrote:
> > [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/715748
> I'm a bit confused here.  That bug is filed against app-portage/euses, but
> it complains about euse, and specifically at the  end of the initial report
> it says app-portage/gentoolkit-0.4.6.  Do both gentoolkit and euses have
> their own "euse" command? (I don't plan to emerge euses just to test that.)

euses does not provide an euse command, it only provides euses:

        $ equery -C f -f cmd euses
        /usr/bin/euses

gentoolkit does provide an euse command:

        $ e-file -c never euse

        *  app-shells/gentoo-bashcomp
        Available Versions:	20140911 20180302 20190211 
        Homepage:		https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/No_homepage
        Description:		Gentoo-specific bash command-line completions
                                        (emerge, ebuild, equery, etc)
        Matched Files:		/usr/share/bash-completion/completions/euse;
                                        /usr/share/bash-completion/euse; 

        [I] app-portage/gentoolkit
        Available Versions:	0.3.0.7 0.3.0.9-r2 0.3.3 0.4.2-r1 0.4.6 0.4.7
                                        0.4.8 0.5.0 9999 
        Last Installed Ver:	0.4.8(Tue 12 May 2020 18:25:21 BST)
        Homepage:		https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project: \
                                        Portage-Tools
        Description:		Collection of administration scripts for Gentoo
        Matched Files:		/usr/bin/euse;

I assume, due to the provided arguments (`-p` and `-E`) that  the  bug  concerns
euse, and the reporter on BugZilla made a mistake due  to  the  strangely  named
packages.  Thus, my comment about "obscure quirks" is invalid in this particular
case, however my remarks regarding the peculiar  reliance  on  $PORTDIR  remain.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Creating Blue-ray video discs

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Fri, 29 May 2020 07:56:32 -0500, Dale wrote:

> > Yes, don't have make.conf as a directory, euses breaks itself in that
> > case.

> I have make.conf as a file still.  I plan to keep it that way for the
> moment tho.  I do have package.use and friends as directories tho.  Does
> it work OK with that? 

Yes.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Creating Blue-ray video discs

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Fri, 29 May 2020 14:16:58 +0100, Ashley Dixon wrote:

> > > Yes, don't have make.conf as a directory, euses breaks itself in
> > > that case.  
> >
> > I have make.conf as a file still.  I plan to keep it that way for the
> > moment tho.  I do have package.use and friends as directories tho.
> > Does it work OK with that?   
> 
> 
> Euses breaks itself in almost every case for new systems; it is in
> severe  need of an upgrade. See bug [1]. It  relies on $PORTDIR which
> has been deprecated for many years [2] in favour of the per-repo.conf
> `location` attribute [2].

Yes, and that's why it falls over when make.conf is a directory, it
complains it can't find PORTDIR. As you say, it shouldn't even be
looking for it.

It's a useful tool in need of an update.

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Neil Bothwick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Creating Blue-ray video discs

[Dale]

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Laurence Perkins wrote:
>
> -- 
>  Best Regards,
>
>
>
>
> Laurence Perkins 
> OS Engineer
> OpenEye
> www.openeye.net
>
> On Fri, 2020-05-29 at 07:38 -0500, Dale wrote:
>> Andrew Udvare wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 29, 2020, 05:02 Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com
>>> <mailto:rdalek1967@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> Howdy,
>>>>
>>>> A few weeks ago, I ran up on a deal on a Blu-ray burner.  It's a LG and
>>>> smartctrl -i shows this:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
>>>> Vendor:               HL-DT-ST
>>>> Product:              BD-RE  WH16NS40
>>>> Revision:             1.04
>>>> Compliance:           SPC-3
>>>> >> Terminate command early due to bad response to IEC mode page
>>>> A mandatory SMART command failed: exiting. To continue, add one or more
>>>> '-T permissive' options.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, I have some HD videos I want to burn to a Blu-ray disc in HD. 
>>>> I've used Devede and Devedeng to create DVDs for a while.  I prefer the
>>>> old Devede but the new ng version works well.  It doesn't however seem
>>>> to create Blu-ray discs.  I googled and found how to play some of them
>>>> at least that are commercially made.  I can't find however what
>>>> software
>>>> is used to create my own. 
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know what software to use to create HD video Blu-ray
>>>> discs? 
>>>>
>>>
>>> You're referring to Blu-ray authoring like creating menus and making
>>> a video disc that works in a set-top player. There isn't any
>>> software for Linux I know of that does this, especially the menu
>>> part. The menu part can be in a simple format or it can be more
>>> advanced with BD-J.
>>>
>>> Studios use Scenarist
>>> BD https://www.scenarist.com/scenarist-bd-professional-blu-ray-disc-authoring/
>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.scenarist.com_scenarist-2Dbd-2Dprofessional-2Dblu-2Dray-2Ddisc-2Dauthoring_&d=DwMDaQ&c=sJXHf1mumFHnbuqawQcOuA&r=MLC99WkEiyNGhxWZ52v4PVQ0MpIXOzl3Sdnj9liHsoY&m=7KzhgdyvQguAgsRtkWBlr7r0zIc1OY7g8XtBQeqhQgg&s=_FHRC6Ym3RznZj5OX4x3vfbM7CFO-_7MEgvpvyinzik&e=>
>>>
>>> There's MultiAVCHD for free. Maybe it works with Wine?
>>
>>
>> I tried wine once, it was a disaster.  I can't recall what little
>> program I was trying to run but it never did. It seems that what I
>> want to do isn't doable on Linux and requires software that has to be
>> purchased at that.  That's disappointing that Linux can't do this. 
>> Looks like I'll have to use my new Blu-ray burner for data backups. 
>> Bummer.  I really wanted to make that gardening video HD.  No wonder
>> people use their game boxes and buy media centers that have hard
>> drives in them and then stream things from the internet.  Basically,
>> other than storing data files, Blu-ray isn't worth much except for
>> commercially made media. 
>>
>> Well, even if I knew this before, I'm still glad to have the thing. 
>> It certainly holds more files than a DVD. 
>>
>> If anyone knows of a tool to do this, I'm all ears. 
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-) 
>>
>> P. S.  Time to go to the doctor and get my weekly shots. 
>
> note that blu-ray r and re disks are only bit stable for about 5
> years. i recommend dvdisaster for upping the amount of ecc data to
> reduce your lossage.
>
> doing some quick reading, it looks like you just need to get the right
> filesystem, filenames, and video codecs on the disk. it's different
> from dvd, but should be documented somewhere. i don't have time to go
> hunting for it right now, but if nothing else some examination of a
> blu-ray that plays correctly should show you what goes where.
>
> lmp
>
> p.s. apologies; shift key isn't working.


Well, I don't have a Blu-ray disc to look at but I'll google around and
see what I can find.  There has to be Linux user out there somewhere
that has documented doing this.  I don't know how many millions of us
there is but surely one has burned a disc that plays in a Blu-ray player. 

5 years.  I rotate at least once a year, sometimes twice.  Shouldn't be
a problem.  Plus, it's just a additional backup measure. 

Oh, for those who recall the hard drive thread and the PMR and SMR
discussion.  I found out my 6TB drive that is part of /home is a PMR
drive.  That's why I haven't noticed any issues when I thought it was a
SMR drive.  So, I only need to replace the 3TB drive with a larger 6 or
8TB drive.  Then I'll have either 12TBs or 14TBs of drive space for
/home.  I plan to use the removed 3TB and another drive that I think is
3TB as well as backup measures, kept outside the home of course.  Maybe
be building a NAS thingy at some point.  I want TV speakers first. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Creating Blue-ray video discs

[Dale]

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Dale wrote:
> Gerrit Kühn wrote:
>> Am Fri, 29 May 2020 05:14:41 -0500
>> schrieb Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> I think you are correct.  To create a DVD with videos to watch on a TV
>>> DVD player, I use Devede to create the image and then k3b to burn the
>>> image.  It seems I need some sort of tool, like devede does for DVDs, to
>>> create a image or whatever to burn to a blu-ray media.
>> Would this help?
>> <https://github.com/justdan96/tsMuxer>
>>
>>
>> cu
>>   Gerrit
>>
>>
>
>
> I'm not sure.  I looked at the github page but as usual, the info
> there is sparse, it's more of a dev thing so it should be.  I'll check
> the home page and google to see if I can figure out what all it does. 
> My problem right now, I know really nothing about Blu-ray stuff.  I
> sort of understand DVDs but never touched a Blu-ray disc until I
> bought this thing.  I did get 100 of the BD-R thingys tho.  I can back
> up my pics and stuff for sure.  I plan to get the rewriteable ones
> later on.  I won't need that many of those.  I think those are BD-RE
> or something. 
>
> Thanks.
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-) 


I was going to emerge it and see what it looks like.  It may do
something to help but not sure.  When I try to emerge the package,
emerge says there is a missing USE flag.  Thing is, the package doesn't
have that USE flag that I can see nor does what it needs to have
installed as a dependency.


root@fireball / # emerge --select y -av tsmuxer

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!

emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy
">=app-arch/upx-3.01[lzma]".
!!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request:
- app-arch/upx-3.96::gentoo (Missing IUSE: lzma)
(dependency required by "media-video/tsmuxer-2.6.11-r1::gentoo" [ebuild])
(dependency required by "tsmuxer" [argument])
root@fireball / #


This is the ebuild info for that and another package that got pulled in.


[ebuild  N     ] dev-libs/ucl-1.03-r1::gentoo  USE="-static-libs" 523 KiB
[ebuild  N    ~] app-arch/upx-3.96::gentoo  774 KiB



As you can tell, neither upx or ucl has the USE flag lzma.  It appears
there is something missing in the ebuild for upx.  Since emerge tends to
encrypt its output, may I'm reading that wrong.  :/

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Creating Blue-ray video discs

[Ashley Dixon]

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On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 03:59:13PM -0500, Dale wrote:
> I was going to emerge it and see what it looks like.  It may do
> something to help but not sure.  When I try to emerge the package,
> emerge says there is a missing USE flag.  Thing is, the package doesn't
> have that USE flag that I can see nor does what it needs to have
> installed as a dependency.
> 
> root@fireball / # emerge --select y -av tsmuxer
> 
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> 
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> 
> emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy
> ">=app-arch/upx-3.01[lzma]".
> !!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request:
> - app-arch/upx-3.96::gentoo (Missing IUSE: lzma)
> (dependency required by "media-video/tsmuxer-2.6.11-r1::gentoo" [ebuild])
> (dependency required by "tsmuxer" [argument])
> root@fireball / #
> 
> As you can tell, neither upx or ucl has the USE flag lzma.  It appears
> there is something missing in the ebuild for upx.  Since emerge tends to
> encrypt its output, may I'm reading that wrong.  :/

Yes, you're right; there  is  no  ebuild  currently  in  gentoo.git  to  satisfy
`>=app-arch/upx-3.01[lzma]`.  However,  the  ebuild  maintainer  seems  to  have
realised this, and added the following entry to the tsmuxer ebuild:

        DEPEND="|| (
                >=app-arch/upx-3.01[lzma]
                >=app-arch/upx-bin-3.01
        )"

I.e., use EITHER `>=app-arch/upx-3.01[lzma]` (which doesn't currently exist)  OR
`>=app-arch/upx-bin-3.01`.  For now, you  will  just  have  to  use  the  binary
distribution with L.Z.M.A.\ support built-in,  until  the  source  release  adds
support for optional L.Z.M.A.

The binary distribution is also masked with all ~arch keywords, so you must  add
the appropriate ACCEPT_KEYWORDS entry for `upx-bin`.

        $ ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~amd64" emerge -atvp --autounmask=y tsmuxer

        These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:

        Calculating dependencies... done!
        [ebuild  N     ] media-video/tsmuxer-2.6.11-r1::gentoo  527 KiB
        [ebuild  N     ]  app-arch/upx-bin-3.96::gentoo  452 KiB

        Total: 2 packages (2 new), Size of downloads: 979 KiB

        The following license changes are necessary to proceed:
         (see "package.license" in the portage(5) man page for more details)
        # required by tsmuxer (argument)
        >=media-video/tsmuxer-2.6.11-r1 SmartLabs

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Re: [gentoo-user] Creating Blue-ray video discs

[Dale]

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Ashley Dixon wrote:
> On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 03:59:13PM -0500, Dale wrote:
>> I was going to emerge it and see what it looks like.  It may do
>> something to help but not sure.  When I try to emerge the package,
>> emerge says there is a missing USE flag.  Thing is, the package doesn't
>> have that USE flag that I can see nor does what it needs to have
>> installed as a dependency.
>>
>> root@fireball / # emerge --select y -av tsmuxer
>>
>> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
>>
>> Calculating dependencies... done!
>>
>> emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy
>> ">=app-arch/upx-3.01[lzma]".
>> !!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request:
>> - app-arch/upx-3.96::gentoo (Missing IUSE: lzma)
>> (dependency required by "media-video/tsmuxer-2.6.11-r1::gentoo" [ebuild])
>> (dependency required by "tsmuxer" [argument])
>> root@fireball / #
>>
>> As you can tell, neither upx or ucl has the USE flag lzma.  It appears
>> there is something missing in the ebuild for upx.  Since emerge tends to
>> encrypt its output, may I'm reading that wrong.  :/
> Yes, you're right; there  is  no  ebuild  currently  in  gentoo.git  to  satisfy
> `>=app-arch/upx-3.01[lzma]`.  However,  the  ebuild  maintainer  seems  to  have
> realised this, and added the following entry to the tsmuxer ebuild:
>
>         DEPEND="|| (
>                 >=app-arch/upx-3.01[lzma]
>                 >=app-arch/upx-bin-3.01
>         )"
>
> I.e., use EITHER `>=app-arch/upx-3.01[lzma]` (which doesn't currently exist)  OR
> `>=app-arch/upx-bin-3.01`.  For now, you  will  just  have  to  use  the  binary
> distribution with L.Z.M.A.\ support built-in,  until  the  source  release  adds
> support for optional L.Z.M.A.
>
> The binary distribution is also masked with all ~arch keywords, so you must  add
> the appropriate ACCEPT_KEYWORDS entry for `upx-bin`.
>
>         $ ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~amd64" emerge -atvp --autounmask=y tsmuxer
>
>         These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:
>
>         Calculating dependencies... done!
>         [ebuild  N     ] media-video/tsmuxer-2.6.11-r1::gentoo  527 KiB
>         [ebuild  N     ]  app-arch/upx-bin-3.96::gentoo  452 KiB
>
>         Total: 2 packages (2 new), Size of downloads: 979 KiB
>
>         The following license changes are necessary to proceed:
>          (see "package.license" in the portage(5) man page for more details)
>         # required by tsmuxer (argument)
>         >=media-video/tsmuxer-2.6.11-r1 SmartLabs
>


Well, the bummer is the tree doesn't have the right ebuilds.  The good
part is, I read the output of a emerge error and got it right.  O_O 
OK.  I'm off the floor now.  I think I'll be OK.  Just a little
headache. ROFL

I may work on this later.  Right now, I found out youtube-dl will
download videos from a video site I use quite often and I'm a
downloading ninja right now.  One thing I really like, when it times out
at about 90% or so, youtube-dl will resume.  When using a Firefox
add-on, it starts over and usually times out again.  I end up
downloading more data trying to get it and failing than the video even
has in size.  Once I figured up that I downloaded over 1.5GBs trying to
get a 400MB file and still didn't have it yet.  Silly ain't it?  What
gets me, it seems to always do that when it is allllmmmooooosssstttt
done.  I've seen it fail when it only lacked a very few MBs.

Anyway, I'll add this to my todo list. 

Thanks much for confirming and the suggestions on the workaround.  I'll
keep this for reference in the next day or so. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Creating Blue-ray video discs

[Joerg Schilling]

Laurence Perkins <lperkins@openeye.net> wrote:

> note that blu-ray r and re disks are only bit stable for about 5 years. i recommend dvdisaster for upping the amount of ecc data to reduce your lossage.

This does not apply to decent media.

Rewritable disks should all be usable for at least 50 years, BD-R based on 
metal-nitride even longer.

Today, cheep BD-R use organic dye....

Jörg

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