[gentoo-user] Gnome doesn't shutdown

[gentoo-user] Gnome doesn't shutdown

[Manuel Fiorelli]

Hello,
I noticed that Gnome doesn't shutdown anymore. When I press
System/Shutdown and I confirm in the prompt, the desktop is cleared
but the wallpaper is still visible and the machine doesn't shutdown.

This behavior appeared after an update; I waited for another update,
but the problem still persists. I wonder if I make an error during the
update or it is a bug affecting the last releases of the desktop
manager.

I run the version of gnome 2.26.3

Thanks in advance,
Manuel Fiorelli

Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome doesn't shutdown

[Allan Gottlieb]

At Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:23:21 +0200 Manuel Fiorelli <manuel.fiorelli@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
> I noticed that Gnome doesn't shutdown anymore. When I press
> System/Shutdown and I confirm in the prompt, the desktop is cleared
> but the wallpaper is still visible and the machine doesn't shutdown.
>
> This behavior appeared after an update; I waited for another update,
> but the problem still persists. I wonder if I make an error during the
> update or it is a bug affecting the last releases of the desktop
> manager.
>
> I run the version of gnome 2.26.3

I recently had a problem where the evolution data server didn't die
I had to do evolution --force-shutdown

I don't have that problem now, but you could give it a try.

allan

Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome doesn't shutdown

[Manuel Fiorelli]

2009/10/23 Allan Gottlieb <gottlieb@nyu.edu>:
> At Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:23:21 +0200 Manuel Fiorelli <manuel.fiorelli@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> I noticed that Gnome doesn't shutdown anymore. When I press
> I recently had a problem where the evolution data server didn't die

Unfortunately, it doesn't solve my problem. How did you understand
that it is evolution
to prevent Gnome from shutting down?

Manuel Fiorelli

[gentoo-user] Re: Gnome doesn't shutdown

[Manuel Fiorelli]

2009/10/23 Manuel Fiorelli <manuel.fiorelli@gmail.com>:
> Hello,
> I noticed that Gnome doesn't shutdown anymore. When I press
> System/Shutdown and I confirm in the prompt, the desktop is cleared
> but the wallpaper is still visible and the machine doesn't shutdown.

The problem seems to be disappeared after I add the service "consolekit" to
the same runlevel of dbus.

Note: it seems to me that consolekit was pulled in during the last
update, but I forget it...

Can this be the right solution? Does the Gnome HOWTO need an update?

Manuel Fiorelli

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gnome doesn't shutdown

[Alan McKinnon]

On Friday 23 October 2009 22:16:03 Manuel Fiorelli wrote:
> 2009/10/23 Manuel Fiorelli <manuel.fiorelli@gmail.com>:
> > Hello,
> > I noticed that Gnome doesn't shutdown anymore. When I press
> > System/Shutdown and I confirm in the prompt, the desktop is cleared
> > but the wallpaper is still visible and the machine doesn't shutdown.
> 
> The problem seems to be disappeared after I add the service "consolekit" to
> the same runlevel of dbus.

Correct
 
> Note: it seems to me that consolekit was pulled in during the last
> update, but I forget it...

emerging a package is not the same thing as configuring it to run. There would 
have been an elog about it.

> Can this be the right solution? Does the Gnome HOWTO need an update?

Well, it is presumed that as a gentoo user, you do read the elogs....


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome doesn't shutdown

[Alan McKinnon]

On Friday 23 October 2009 20:38:27 Manuel Fiorelli wrote:
> 2009/10/23 Allan Gottlieb <gottlieb@nyu.edu>:
> > At Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:23:21 +0200 Manuel Fiorelli 
<manuel.fiorelli@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >> I noticed that Gnome doesn't shutdown anymore. When I press
> >
> > I recently had a problem where the evolution data server didn't die
> 
> Unfortunately, it doesn't solve my problem. How did you understand
> that it is evolution
> to prevent Gnome from shutting down?


Maybe becuase evolution has historically been an unstable piece of complete 
shit that crashes often and corrupts thing, so he investigated it first and 
got lucky?


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gnome doesn't shutdown

[Manuel Fiorelli]

2009/10/23 Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>:
> emerging a package is not the same thing as configuring it to run. There would
> have been an elog about it.

The elog was a little long, thus it is possible that I miss to read some lines.

Manuel Fiorelli

Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome doesn't shutdown

[Allan Gottlieb]

At Fri, 23 Oct 2009 23:04:04 +0200 Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Friday 23 October 2009 20:38:27 Manuel Fiorelli wrote:
>> 2009/10/23 Allan Gottlieb <gottlieb@nyu.edu>:
>> > At Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:23:21 +0200 Manuel Fiorelli 
> <manuel.fiorelli@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Hello,
>> >> I noticed that Gnome doesn't shutdown anymore. When I press
>> >
>> > I recently had a problem where the evolution data server didn't die
>> 
>> Unfortunately, it doesn't solve my problem. How did you understand
>> that it is evolution
>> to prevent Gnome from shutting down?
>
>
> Maybe becuase evolution has historically been an unstable piece of complete 
> shit that crashes often and corrupts thing, so he investigated it first and 
> got lucky?

Or maybe it was because he finds it so useful that he didn't consider
not using it and investigated (via lsof | grep bin) what was still
around that should be.  In my case I think (but am not sure) the
situation was that I couldn't unmount /usr so couldn't halt cleanly.
I went to single user mode and lsof | grep bin pointed me at esd and
evolution-data-server.

allan