From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N3XFB-0005lk-QU for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:48:58 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5A211E071E; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:48:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vw0-f184.google.com (mail-vw0-f184.google.com [209.85.212.184]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39CE0E071E for ; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:48:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by vws14 with SMTP id 14so251750vws.32 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 08:48:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=YDdy9ebgaV19/YCMTa10Osrf0HLTLXQPcJNqwCJRZ1o=; b=FW9F6nLe/h+rS6jC4V2U9Wr99QkBsc33RDvfm8b3/d1wJb0wpLRxijX7oZsMtzICwa bhmkZCYYUMFFGAu5Fc5KlH4jarRGUBre7WzGooFKxxZ8C7mzksxxyNa+3IirBtshtfEb d2B3x+mzzjnvaCf6imTawyyMUz8bYBcB056ys= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Unabjhs2HK2c/dSshBvMfd7KUktEwDNXs5neoeOId3vmZh9GWUDjw1AMkdB8XhRiu/ faCVyBP4AO/l1ChL/QYwz/2nVHJ8EYKey6kJQ3+v9wePQKI5F7Z54y5QGzaENfMpefGx LoWPCWpzupe6DJmtFaNYamdnOwcQx5sq5h3Lk= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.126.205 with SMTP id d13mr303559vcs.24.1256831335740; Thu, 29 Oct 2009 08:48:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <49bf44f10910281422n721c811cqbe099bfc228ea7de@mail.gmail.com> References: <49bf44f10910280936m47613bfx91827e3c3d4a30c6@mail.gmail.com> <200910282057.47078.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <49bf44f10910281227q3d61964ei593fa159d3911256@mail.gmail.com> <200910282133.51141.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <49bf44f10910281422n721c811cqbe099bfc228ea7de@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:48:55 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] public mail server for ELOG? From: Joshua Murphy To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 7c3c053c-0b1a-446f-9ce8-c3d068d24884 X-Archives-Hash: 78b38c1df33f3fe7d08f93bb3c6a0444 On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Grant wrote: >>> >> > That kind of delivery limits the access to this mails to the local >>> >> > maschine. If I want to read local I don't need mails, I could just >>> >> > read the logfiles from portage in /var/log/ >>> >> > >>> >> > But I am aware that solving this problem is nothing that portage h= as >>> >> > to do, as it is no problem with portage at all. >>> >> > >>> >> > My mail was just to show that not everyone has a local mailserver >>> >> > running on his maschine. >>> >> > >>> >> > Greetings >>> >> > >>> >> > Sebastian >>> >> >>> >> then let it store everything as elog and read that with elogv. >>> >> >>> >> mail is just an additional bonus feature. >>> > >>> > His initial mail said that he would like a copy of elogs to go to his >>> > inbox at his ISP. Later mails imply he might want to read them over I= MAP >>> > so they are accessible at multiple locations. >>> > >>> > Sebastian, >>> > >>> > Have you looked at ssmtp? Very light, very small and you can protect = your >>> > login password with Unix file permissions instead of leaving them ope= n in >>> > make.conf >>> >>> Could I use ssmtp to send elog mail to my email address? =C2=A0I wouldn= 't >>> even need a login password if this is all I use it for, right? >> >> Yes. >> >> ssmtp is an email sender, it knows how to talk smtp to receiving servers= or to >> relays. It doesn't receive mails. >> >> If the relay you use requires a username/password or ssl, it supports th= at >> too. > > So I need a relay somewhere along with ssmtp to get a message to an > email address? > >> [The receiving smtp server likely does not require a username/password, = but it >> is equally likely to not accept connection direct from you, hence you sh= ould >> use your ISPs mail relay] > > I likely can't use my ISP's mail relay when traveling, right? > > - Grant Ok, now I'm left with a bit of curiosity. You've implied here a couple machines, one that sits at home where you may or may not be, likely a desktop? And another that goes with you traveling, likely a laptop. Now, a desktop at home can use your ISP's mail relay at all times, so long as your internet connection through your ISP is online and working, making elog mails from it accessible in your mailbox. The laptop depends on how your ISP's mail relay is configured, but I'm curious if you meant to imply you needed to send the elog information from the system that was traveling with you or not. If you do, I recommend a Gmail account, as they provide an authenticated-with-TLS mail relay. That said... and those things asked... gmail and ssmtp play very well together in my experience (gotta love anecdotal evidence). http://www.gentoo-wiki.info/HOWTO_Gmail_and_sSMTP --=20 Poison [BLX] Joshua M. Murphy