From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KvMah-0005ej-7i for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:44:51 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CD46CE02D2; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:44:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from yx-out-1718.google.com (yx-out-1718.google.com [74.125.44.157]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC338E02D2 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:44:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yx-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 4so127913yxp.46 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:44:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=pxZwcjXxOAzZqGGZvgl1z3Qe/EZ3xM/lyJ9L4nyOQ2c=; b=ZSVWWUpOXzUjbVV31QfY7cjB0JEVzYLXTRn2Lq9VaNj9EgCAGwGrG2mF+UCt8rC/gw WXsGahRf3IW8JgRh8ujuR468xmrqizSVF1iG0jEUXjEj9ukTAn9meUNTlKLE1KnHLFt1 sVRicC5gudS8xboMTevu/P7/1hgMDe8VMIZ3E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=hkgxXbHOlI77MOkQBWrfz47mYLbzBKuj1QIUn/djq38sKZwd8wY8hPB6I7xSTScpSX 4aGwDKH3VrW71JnTPV+zN3My9wWTBxOTcacblmCJiF8cpiu0aacD8tBIToxNec/WkYg/ Nf1HDLMKVLc5dUkttp/wm0hh/hONf52ktp5LA= Received: by 10.90.101.7 with SMTP id y7mr8139826agb.44.1225331088162; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:44:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.71.8 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:44:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 21:44:48 -0400 From: "Joshua Murphy" To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to solve blockage when trying to install kde-meta-4.1.2 In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200810291856.49988.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <20081029204634.4ea4e0fa@digimed.co.uk> X-Archives-Salt: e685f560-33ad-460b-a35e-032d01ec19de X-Archives-Hash: d46fbc61adf166a668498f11ad1fc812 On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Andrey Vul wrote: > I don't like package managers which require interactivity. > emerge -uvDp world | less is easier to parse then emerge -upDa world. > Why? Because I don't have to find a way of transferring if > less handles all of the keyboard input. > So I prefer two stages: > 1) pretend merge - single verbosity - and look at output > 2) actual merge - normal / quiet - and pipe to tee So what you're saying... is that emerge should have a switch to turn on, when using -p, -a, and/or -t, a pager? Particularly one that, until you're content with -a in particular, doesn't accidentally have a means of handing output back off to the emerge for the yes/no? This would spare the double run of the dependency checker while giving users who want it a pager to use and giving the rest the same functionality a simple -a gives now... something like etc-update's use of a pager comes to mind. Let's see... -P is taken for --prune ... --less/-L or... --more/-m ... --more/-M ? Of course, --pager/-M would work too, but it's less intuitive (we already have --unmerge/-C ... so why not, I suppose). Not *quite* sure I'm up to the task at the moment, though. -- Poison [BLX] Joshua M. Murphy