From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1I8nEN-0004Xu-PK for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 12 Jul 2007 01:12:32 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l6C1BIfL029072; Thu, 12 Jul 2007 01:11:18 GMT Received: from nz-out-0506.google.com (nz-out-0506.google.com [64.233.162.233]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l6C16r5b024251 for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2007 01:06:53 GMT Received: by nz-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s18so1528314nze for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:06:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=QeGzmCbubELlNPe70zkdwLugyudPur+dPXt6/Wlc5ZI2/W+klYkfZBIkoqDPPAMoXznHsd0y0AznPkPTiFvFIGhQD9XKE3an37ffG4KLW2DqL90OKhyo5CVKsOoEnDhj/rwqbIyVCaIG35DRNnbrP/XJEsibGuMsz2OkfuwN+sk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=YGVOny4ggKne+cOm6G6em4WiNr+vG0wp8y2ZXcP++439JTd58xdFbAR6H1AqA1pDlB4UUEYrwEXyslE7A2aG0Ev+8x8Gejkf+Jw11wmpR85goP4hfNHLamjdS+xmHNtt+hQfa5xav5cKohNGM8O00/bHTmHf+XptjlWz2eLIihM= Received: by 10.115.23.12 with SMTP id a12mr47959waj.1184202412570; Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:06:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.115.110.8 with HTTP; Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:06:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:06:52 -0700 From: Thufir To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo Healthy? (The Return) In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <49bf44f10707030907jaa9f524maef27beb2a7c9df@mail.gmail.com> <8cd1ed20707032351g5e491506n8cae6a200fd66d49@mail.gmail.com> <49bf44f10707080948v51af712cscf71841b2fbbf6ab@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b0707081115j6a11aab2we4321296ff7c5c2d@mail.gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 51d7e696-7a62-4d63-9e1a-02128dac43f9 X-Archives-Hash: f7024a4f3df4401860bd319cf8ea441c On 7/9/07, Galevsky wrote: > 2007/7/8, Mark Knecht : > > I think a more accurate message is 'Gentoo welcomes all, but as a > > potential Gentoo user you must be willing to learn. Gentoo does not > > attempt make *anything* 'easy or pretty' in preference to providing > > complete control.' Add what you will. that's just a start. > > +1. Opening the door to unskilled does not mean to set live-cd & > auto-install projects to high priority, but providing docs and support > to people willing to learn. > > Gal' [...] On that note, the live cd failed to install -- but only if it emerges stuff. If a network-less option is selected, it worked fine :) I would humbly suggest that, as the consensus is that the live cd fails, to simplify it. Emerging packages fails? don't offer that option. Seemed to work fine when everything was installed directly off the CD. Now all this n00b has to do is tweak portage, and, probably, recompile everything including the kernel. However, that's much easier from a working system, and at my pace. In the meantime, it works fine. I'm not sure exactly what's entailed, but some sort of removing the tree, syncing, dependancy cleaning, prune, deep, ...., then emerge world. Anyhow, that's next week for me. Seriously, why offer a buggy installer? Either remove it entirely or grossly simplify it by only offering the off-line install which seems to work. -Thufir -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list