[gentoo-user] Switched monitors, having resolution problems

[gentoo-user] Switched monitors, having resolution problems

[Vlad Dogaru]

Hello all,

I have just switched monitors and X now starts in 640x480. I intend to
make it work at 1280x1024, and have changed DefaultDepth and Modes
lines in xorg.conf accordingly. The console works at 1024x768 as
usual, but I have compiled that into the framebuffer. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Vlad

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Re: [gentoo-user] Switched monitors, having resolution problems

[Hemmann, Volker Armin]

On Mittwoch, 28. Februar 2007, Vlad Dogaru wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I have just switched monitors and X now starts in 640x480. I intend to
> make it work at 1280x1024, and have changed DefaultDepth and Modes
> lines in xorg.conf accordingly. The console works at 1024x768 as
> usual, but I have compiled that into the framebuffer. Any suggestions?
>
how about not using modelines at all?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Switched monitors, having resolution problems

[Vlad Dogaru]

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On 2/28/07, Hemmann, Volker Armin <volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de> wrote:
> On Mittwoch, 28. Februar 2007, Vlad Dogaru wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I have just switched monitors and X now starts in 640x480. I intend to
> > make it work at 1280x1024, and have changed DefaultDepth and Modes
> > lines in xorg.conf accordingly. The console works at 1024x768 as
> > usual, but I have compiled that into the framebuffer. Any suggestions?
> >
> how about not using modelines at all?

I've tried commenting out the modeline, to no avail, and the
DefaultDepth, also with no result. I've checked the logs and found
nothing out of place. Attatched is my xorg.conf, should anyone find it
meaningful.

Vlad
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[-- Attachment #2: xorg.conf --]
[-- Type: application/octet-stream, Size: 1844 bytes --]

Section "ServerLayout"
	Identifier     "X.org Configured"
	Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
	InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
	InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
	RgbPath      "/usr/share/X11/rgb"
	ModulePath   "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
	ModulePath   "/usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions"
	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/misc/"
	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/TTF/"
	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/OTF"
	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/Type1/"
	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/CID/"
	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/"
	FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/"
EndSection

Section "Module"
	Load  "extmod"
	Load  "dbe"
	Load  "record"
	Load  "xtrap"
#	Load  "dri"
	Load  "glx"
	Load  "freetype"
	Load  "type1"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier  "Keyboard0"
	Driver      "kbd"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
	Identifier  "Mouse0"
	Driver      "mouse"
	Option	    "Protocol" "auto"
	Option	    "Device" "/dev/input/mouse0"
	Option	    "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
	Identifier   "Monitor0"
	VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
	ModelName    "Monitor Model"
EndSection

Section "Device"
	Identifier  "Card0"
	Driver      "nvidia"
	VendorName  "nVidia Corporation"
	BoardName   "NV31 [GeForce FX 5600]"
	BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
	Identifier "Screen0"
	Device     "Card0"
	Monitor    "Monitor0"
	#DefaultDepth 24
	SubSection "Display"
		Viewport   0 0
		Depth     1
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Viewport   0 0
		Depth     4
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Viewport   0 0
		Depth     8
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Viewport   0 0
		Depth     15
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Viewport   0 0
		Depth     16
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Viewport   0 0
		Depth     24
		#Modes	  "1280x1024"
	EndSubSection
EndSection

Re: [gentoo-user] Switched monitors, having resolution problems

[Hemmann, Volker Armin]

On Mittwoch, 28. Februar 2007, Vlad Dogaru wrote:
> On 2/28/07, Hemmann, Volker Armin <volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de> 
wrote:
> > On Mittwoch, 28. Februar 2007, Vlad Dogaru wrote:
> > > Hello all,
> > >
> > > I have just switched monitors and X now starts in 640x480. I intend to
> > > make it work at 1280x1024, and have changed DefaultDepth and Modes
> > > lines in xorg.conf accordingly. The console works at 1024x768 as
> > > usual, but I have compiled that into the framebuffer. Any suggestions?
> >
> > how about not using modelines at all?
>
> I've tried commenting out the modeline, to no avail, and the
> DefaultDepth, also with no result. I've checked the logs and found
> nothing out of place. Attatched is my xorg.conf, should anyone find it
> meaningful.
>
> Vlad
>
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well, you set no mode at all - modelines are something different ;)

Section "Screen"
	Identifier "Screen0"
	Device     "Card0"
	Monitor    "Monitor0"
	#DefaultDepth 24
	SubSection "Display"
		Viewport   0 0
		Depth     1
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Viewport   0 0
		Depth     4
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Viewport   0 0
		Depth     8
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Viewport   0 0
		Depth     15
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Viewport   0 0
		Depth     16
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Viewport   0 0
		Depth     24
		#Modes	  "1280x1024"
	EndSubSection
EndSection

change that too something like:


Section "Screen"
	Identifier "Screen0"
	Device     "Card0"
	Monitor    "Monitor0"
	#DefaultDepth 24
	SubSection "Display"
		Viewport   0 0
		Depth     1
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Viewport   0 0
		Depth     4
		Modes       "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Viewport   0 0
		Depth     8
		Modes       "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Viewport   0 0
		Depth     15
		Modes       "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Viewport   0 0
		Depth     16
		Modes       "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
	SubSection "Display"
		Viewport   0 0
		Depth     24
		Modes	  "1280x1024"  "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
EndSection

And add this to your modules section:
    Load        "ddc"
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Re: [gentoo-user] Switched monitors, having resolution problems

[Dan Farrell]

On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 01:54:29 +0100
"Hemmann, Volker Armin" <volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de> wrote:

> On Mittwoch, 28. Februar 2007, Vlad Dogaru wrote:
> > On 2/28/07, Hemmann, Volker Armin
> > <volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de> 
> wrote:
> > > On Mittwoch, 28. Februar 2007, Vlad Dogaru wrote:
> > > > Hello all,
> > > >
> > > > I have just switched monitors and X now starts in 640x480. I
> > > > intend to make it work at 1280x1024, and have changed
> > > > DefaultDepth and Modes lines in xorg.conf accordingly. The
> > > > console works at 1024x768 as usual, but I have compiled that
> > > > into the framebuffer. Any suggestions?
> > >
> > > how about not using modelines at all?
> >
> > I've tried commenting out the modeline, to no avail, and the
> > DefaultDepth, also with no result. I've checked the logs and found
> > nothing out of place. Attatched is my xorg.conf, should anyone find
> > it meaningful.
> >
> > Vlad
> >
> > > --
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> 
> well, you set no mode at all - modelines are something different ;)
> 
> Section "Screen"
> 	Identifier "Screen0"
> 	Device     "Card0"
> 	Monitor    "Monitor0"
> 	#DefaultDepth 24
> 	SubSection "Display"
> 		Viewport   0 0
> 		Depth     1
> 	EndSubSection
> 	SubSection "Display"
> 		Viewport   0 0
> 		Depth     4
> 	EndSubSection
> 	SubSection "Display"
> 		Viewport   0 0
> 		Depth     8
> 	EndSubSection
> 	SubSection "Display"
> 		Viewport   0 0
> 		Depth     15
> 	EndSubSection
> 	SubSection "Display"
> 		Viewport   0 0
> 		Depth     16
> 	EndSubSection
> 	SubSection "Display"
> 		Viewport   0 0
> 		Depth     24
> 		#Modes	  "1280x1024"
> 	EndSubSection
> EndSection
> 
> change that too something like:
> 
> 
> Section "Screen"
> 	Identifier "Screen0"
> 	Device     "Card0"
> 	Monitor    "Monitor0"
> 	#DefaultDepth 24
> 	SubSection "Display"
> 		Viewport   0 0
> 		Depth     1
> 	EndSubSection
> 	SubSection "Display"
> 		Viewport   0 0
> 		Depth     4
> 		Modes       "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
> 	EndSubSection
> 	SubSection "Display"
> 		Viewport   0 0
> 		Depth     8
> 		Modes       "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
> 	EndSubSection
> 	SubSection "Display"
> 		Viewport   0 0
> 		Depth     15
> 		Modes       "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
> 	EndSubSection
> 	SubSection "Display"
> 		Viewport   0 0
> 		Depth     16
> 		Modes       "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
> 	EndSubSection
> 	SubSection "Display"
> 		Viewport   0 0
> 		Depth     24
> 		Modes	  "1280x1024"  "1024x768" "800x600"
> "640x480" EndSubSection
> EndSection
> 
> And add this to your modules section:
>     Load        "ddc"
I find myself in this situation often, and usually, looking up
Horizontal Sync and Vertical Refresh frequencies for the make and model
of the monitor (rarely tricky) and then setting them in xorg.conf
solves the problem.  For example: 

Section "Monitor"
        Identifier   "Monitor0"
        VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
        ModelName    "Monitor Model"
        HorizSync       31.5-64.3
        VertRefresh     50-90
        Modeline  "1024x768"   85.00 1024 1032 1152 1360 768 784 787 823
EndSection

In this case I also used a modeline because the HorizSync and
VertRefresh settings didn't work at 1024x768 without it.  
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Re: [gentoo-user] Switched monitors, having resolution problems

[Vlad Dogaru]

On 2/28/07, Dan Farrell <dan@spore.ath.cx> wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 01:54:29 +0100
> "Hemmann, Volker Armin" <volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de> wrote:
>
> > On Mittwoch, 28. Februar 2007, Vlad Dogaru wrote:
> > > On 2/28/07, Hemmann, Volker Armin
> > > <volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de>
> > wrote:
> > > > On Mittwoch, 28. Februar 2007, Vlad Dogaru wrote:
> > > > > Hello all,
> > > > >
> > > > > I have just switched monitors and X now starts in 640x480. I
> > > > > intend to make it work at 1280x1024, and have changed
> > > > > DefaultDepth and Modes lines in xorg.conf accordingly. The
> > > > > console works at 1024x768 as usual, but I have compiled that
> > > > > into the framebuffer. Any suggestions?
> > > >
> > > > how about not using modelines at all?
> > >
> > > I've tried commenting out the modeline, to no avail, and the
> > > DefaultDepth, also with no result. I've checked the logs and found
> > > nothing out of place. Attatched is my xorg.conf, should anyone find
> > > it meaningful.
> > >
> > > Vlad
> > >
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> >
> > well, you set no mode at all - modelines are something different ;)
> >
> > Section "Screen"
> >       Identifier "Screen0"
> >       Device     "Card0"
> >       Monitor    "Monitor0"
> >       #DefaultDepth 24
> >       SubSection "Display"
> >               Viewport   0 0
> >               Depth     1
> >       EndSubSection
> >       SubSection "Display"
> >               Viewport   0 0
> >               Depth     4
> >       EndSubSection
> >       SubSection "Display"
> >               Viewport   0 0
> >               Depth     8
> >       EndSubSection
> >       SubSection "Display"
> >               Viewport   0 0
> >               Depth     15
> >       EndSubSection
> >       SubSection "Display"
> >               Viewport   0 0
> >               Depth     16
> >       EndSubSection
> >       SubSection "Display"
> >               Viewport   0 0
> >               Depth     24
> >               #Modes    "1280x1024"
> >       EndSubSection
> > EndSection
> >
> > change that too something like:
> >
> >
> > Section "Screen"
> >       Identifier "Screen0"
> >       Device     "Card0"
> >       Monitor    "Monitor0"
> >       #DefaultDepth 24
> >       SubSection "Display"
> >               Viewport   0 0
> >               Depth     1
> >       EndSubSection
> >       SubSection "Display"
> >               Viewport   0 0
> >               Depth     4
> >               Modes       "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
> >       EndSubSection
> >       SubSection "Display"
> >               Viewport   0 0
> >               Depth     8
> >               Modes       "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
> >       EndSubSection
> >       SubSection "Display"
> >               Viewport   0 0
> >               Depth     15
> >               Modes       "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
> >       EndSubSection
> >       SubSection "Display"
> >               Viewport   0 0
> >               Depth     16
> >               Modes       "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
> >       EndSubSection
> >       SubSection "Display"
> >               Viewport   0 0
> >               Depth     24
> >               Modes     "1280x1024"  "1024x768" "800x600"
> > "640x480" EndSubSection
> > EndSection
> >
> > And add this to your modules section:
> >     Load        "ddc"
> I find myself in this situation often, and usually, looking up
> Horizontal Sync and Vertical Refresh frequencies for the make and model
> of the monitor (rarely tricky) and then setting them in xorg.conf
> solves the problem.  For example:
>
> Section "Monitor"
>         Identifier   "Monitor0"
>         VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
>         ModelName    "Monitor Model"
>         HorizSync       31.5-64.3
>         VertRefresh     50-90
>         Modeline  "1024x768"   85.00 1024 1032 1152 1360 768 784 787 823
> EndSection
>
> In this case I also used a modeline because the HorizSync and
> VertRefresh settings didn't work at 1024x768 without it.

I emerged ddcxinfo-knoppix and when I run it with -monitor, I get a
lot of modelines, along with some HorizSync and VertRefresh values.
These are what concern me:

Section "Monitor"
        Identifier   "Monitor0"
#       HorizSync    28.0 - 78.0 # Warning: This may fry very old Monitors
        HorizSync    28.0 - 96.0 # Warning: This may fry old Monitors
        VertRefresh  50.0 - 75.0 # Very conservative. May flicker.
#       VertRefresh  50.0 - 62.0 # Extreme conservative. Will flicker.
TFT default.
        #  Default modes distilled from
        #      "VESA and Industry Standards and Guide for Computer
Display Monitor
        #       Timing", version 1.0, revision 0.8, adopted September 17, 1998.
        #  $XFree86: xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/etc/vesamodes,v
1.4 1999/11/18 16:52:17 tsi Exp $
        # 640x350 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 37.9kHz
        ModeLine "640x350"    31.5  640  672  736  832    350  382
385  445 +hsync -vsync
<snip modelines here>

Does this program guarantee that the settings really do work for my
monitor or are they just generic? I need to know, especially
considering the remarks about frying. Also, just checking to see I got
it correctly: I would comment out all but one modeline and use that
one, right? Again, are all modelines listed supported? (This lists
1920x1440@75 for a 17" monitor -- not by far a wiz with this, but...
is this right??)

Vlad

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RE: [gentoo-user] Switched monitors, having resolution problems

[Nelson, David (ED, PAR&D)]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vlad Dogaru [mailto:ddvlad@gmail.com]
> Sent: 28 February 2007 04:56
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Switched monitors, having 
> resolution problems
> 
> > > > > On Mittwoch, 28. Februar 2007, Vlad Dogaru wrote:
> > > > > > Hello all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have just switched monitors and X now starts in 640x480. I
> > > > > > intend to make it work at 1280x1024, and have changed
> > > > > > DefaultDepth and Modes lines in xorg.conf accordingly. The
> > > > > > console works at 1024x768 as usual, but I have compiled that
> > > > > > into the framebuffer. Any suggestions?
> > > > >

I find I have to set "IgnoreEDID" "True" in my xorg.conf card options to get it to work. I am not entirely sure why - but it works. I think it ignores what the monitor says its settings are and then uses settings you specified, but I could be wrong. I'm using an nVidia Ti4200 on a 17in Relisys TL766 (model number might be off for the latter, I'm at work at the moment).

PS: Can we please try to trim the emails down a little? Quoting several paragraphs of settings makes for a long email ;) Cheers


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Re: [gentoo-user] Switched monitors, having resolution problems

[Dan Farrell]

On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:58:56 -0000
"Nelson, David \(ED, PAR&D\)" <David.Nelson2@astrazeneca.com> wrote:

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vlad Dogaru [mailto:ddvlad@gmail.com]
> > Sent: 28 February 2007 04:56
> > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Switched monitors, having 
> > resolution problems
> > 
> > > > > > On Mittwoch, 28. Februar 2007, Vlad Dogaru wrote:
> > > > > > > Hello all,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have just switched monitors and X now starts in
> > > > > > > 640x480. I intend to make it work at 1280x1024...
> > > > > > > [snip] ...Any suggestions?

> I find I have to set "IgnoreEDID" "True" in my xorg.conf card options
> to get it to work. I am not entirely sure why - but it works. I think
> it ignores what the monitor says its settings are and then uses
> settings you specified, but I could be wrong.
something like that.  I don't usually set it, but I think that's mostly
because the only time I have to specify settings myself is when the
EDID or whatever isn't working properly.  Monitors' support for this
mode-gathering stuff seems to vary inversely with it's age.  Many of
the older ones I have refuse to help X configure them at all.  
> 
> PS: Can we please try to trim the emails down a little? Quoting
> several paragraphs of settings makes for a long email ;) Cheers
++.  It's so true.  

>Does this program guarantee that the settings really do work for my
>monitor or are they just generic? 
I am not familiar with ddcxinfo-knoppix, but it probably lists modelines
from up to 3 different sources.  The graphics card can supply a list of
available resolutions -- that's where 1920x1440@75 came from I bet.
The monitor's refresh rates can also be used to extrapolate possible
modelines -- I don't know how to do this, but aside from this program,
there are websites that can do so for you.  Finally, the VESA standard
defines what would likely be called generic settings that are supported
by any VESA-compliant monitor and graphics card (just about all of them
you can still physically connect to new computers, nowadays). These
standard values are a good place to start, as your monitor should work
for them, and you should be able to find one (1280x1024@70, maybe)
that your monitor supports and that looks nice and doesn't flicker too
much, and performs well on your hardware.  the Modes line is meant to
be a list of modeline names, so you may or may not need the @70 part
depending on where the modeline came from.  the X logs should list many
modelines which X  came up with after probing the hardware, and you
probably want to use a name from the desired one of these.  

Have you tried looking up online and entering the refresh rates
manually?  I highly recommend doing so.  

Best of luck, 
   dan.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Switched monitors, having resolution problems

[Vlad Dogaru]

On 3/1/07, Dan Farrell <dan@spore.ath.cx> wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:58:56 -0000
> "Nelson, David \(ED, PAR&D\)" <David.Nelson2@astrazeneca.com> wrote:
>
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Vlad Dogaru [mailto:ddvlad@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: 28 February 2007 04:56
> > > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> > > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Switched monitors, having
> > > resolution problems
> > >
> > > > > > > On Mittwoch, 28. Februar 2007, Vlad Dogaru wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hello all,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have just switched monitors and X now starts in
> > > > > > > > 640x480. I intend to make it work at 1280x1024...
> > > > > > > > [snip] ...Any suggestions?
>
> > I find I have to set "IgnoreEDID" "True" in my xorg.conf card options
> > to get it to work. I am not entirely sure why - but it works. I think
> > it ignores what the monitor says its settings are and then uses
> > settings you specified, but I could be wrong.
> something like that.  I don't usually set it, but I think that's mostly
> because the only time I have to specify settings myself is when the
> EDID or whatever isn't working properly.  Monitors' support for this
> mode-gathering stuff seems to vary inversely with it's age.  Many of
> the older ones I have refuse to help X configure them at all.
> >
> > PS: Can we please try to trim the emails down a little? Quoting
> > several paragraphs of settings makes for a long email ;) Cheers
> ++.  It's so true.
I'll add this to the list of things I learned today. Apologies for the
inconvenience.
>
> >Does this program guarantee that the settings really do work for my
> >monitor or are they just generic?
> I am not familiar with ddcxinfo-knoppix, but it probably lists modelines
> from up to 3 different sources.  The graphics card can supply a list of
> available resolutions -- that's where 1920x1440@75 came from I bet.
> The monitor's refresh rates can also be used to extrapolate possible
> modelines -- I don't know how to do this, but aside from this program,
> there are websites that can do so for you.  Finally, the VESA standard
> defines what would likely be called generic settings that are supported
> by any VESA-compliant monitor and graphics card (just about all of them
> you can still physically connect to new computers, nowadays). These
> standard values are a good place to start, as your monitor should work
> for them, and you should be able to find one (1280x1024@70, maybe)
> that your monitor supports and that looks nice and doesn't flicker too
> much, and performs well on your hardware.  the Modes line is meant to
> be a list of modeline names, so you may or may not need the @70 part
> depending on where the modeline came from.  the X logs should list many
> modelines which X  came up with after probing the hardware, and you
> probably want to use a name from the desired one of these.
I am now using a VESA-compatible modeline for 1280x1024@75 (not sure
about the last one). I just pasted it from ddcxinfo-knoppix, knowing
the monitor would work with these settings.

One more question, though. If I switch back to my older, smaller
monitor and forget to change the modeline, will it get fried? I seem
to see this warning quite often.

Thanks for the help,
Vlad
>
> Have you tried looking up online and entering the refresh rates
> manually?  I highly recommend doing so.
>
> Best of luck,
>    dan.
>
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>


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Re: [gentoo-user] Switched monitors, having resolution problems

[Dan Farrell]

On Thu, 1 Mar 2007 07:02:40 +0200
"Vlad Dogaru" <ddvlad@gmail.com> wrote:


> I'll add this to the list of things I learned today. Apologies for the
> inconvenience.
no inconvenience here, but others on the mailinglist have no doubt
learned as well .. so thanks for the convenience ; )

> I am now using a VESA-compatible modeline for 1280x1024@75 (not sure
> about the last one). I just pasted it from ddcxinfo-knoppix, knowing
> the monitor would work with these settings.
that looks good. the @75 is just part of the arbitrary modeline name,
but actually refers to the refresh rate being used - a nice, fliker
free 75Hz (or kHz, whichever it is i can't rememver)
> One more question, though. If I switch back to my older, smaller
> monitor and forget to change the modeline, will it get fried? I seem
> to see this warning quite often.
I have seen that warning too, but I haven't yet been able to actually
break a monitor like that.  I think the current technology (circa early
to mid 90s and up) no longer has this problem.  However, don't take it
from me as fact, but a guess correlating with the experiences I have
had.  Usually, newer monitors simply show an 'out of range' box on the
screen, and older ones show an image composed entirely of quickly
waving gray black and white horizontal lines; the monitor in this case
has always happily performed afterwords just fine at supported
resolutions.  

there is one thing i would mention though.  You know how as monitors
wear out they get blurrier and blurrer, and image quality decreases?
Well, setting the refresh rate too high on some older, cheaper
monitors seems to result in a much accellerated blurification process.
> Thanks for the help,
> Vlad
any time. 
-dan
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