From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from <gentoo-user+bounces-58748-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@gentoo.org>) id 1H8Dnx-0006zK-4S for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 10:50:37 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l0KAnWoD022319; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 10:49:33 GMT Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l0KAjUR8030502 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 10:45:30 GMT Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c31so1392363nfb for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 02:45:29 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=L8e9AlelwonEvs9+zwaCm8FDWOyBQU3+HFqcCSdX5mdbFHCRzUarf/2phwklQ81q3Zi9ONG848CN0zhIAEX5+5KqlgP5kPsJ4h0SUa0V/Zo69oq2sJUVMQRy8ogrFP416gVymjXZIswObbcOIpQnOF0Ifoj6Qx1IzzC6EyUpl08= Received: by 10.82.152.16 with SMTP id z16mr2173721bud.1169289929324; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 02:45:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.82.188.10 with HTTP; Sat, 20 Jan 2007 02:45:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <bf0e048a0701200245y2db7150dn5e571ebd93915f80@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 12:45:29 +0200 From: "Vlad Dogaru" <ddvlad@gmail.com> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Suggestions for a minimalistic system In-Reply-To: <200701200852.11504.uwix@iway.na> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <bf0e048a0701190938y15553365r90b8915e322dbe42@mail.gmail.com> <45B11EA5.9030301@gmail.com> <bf0e048a0701191346r4a6d5856x3e5793bb10cf9f27@mail.gmail.com> <200701200852.11504.uwix@iway.na> X-Archives-Salt: c8b71fdc-b78e-4df4-a1a1-aaa310fdd76a X-Archives-Hash: 03bda544e27bc9ca7dbf45a5e43131d2 On 1/20/07, Uwe Thiem <uwix@iway.na> wrote: > On 19 January 2007 23:46, Vlad Dogaru wrote: > > On 1/19/07, b.n. <brullonulla@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Buy a couple spare RAM modules. Surely I agree with your will to build a > > > minimalistic system, this will help anyway and it's a nice experience, > > > but RAM is quite cheap and is the magic elisir that allows outdated > > > machines to be still usable -the CPU is rarely a problem, unless you > > > often do something quite computationally intensive. > > > > I have 384 megs of RAM and no imediate possibility of buying more. I > > realise it is arguably sufficient for many lightweight applications, but, > > as I mentioned, it is becoming increasingly frustrating, even with the real > > power of Gentoo and Fluxbox (the two have changed my life -- literally). > > This is odd.My main workstation also has 384MB of ram. I run a full KDE > session and do not experience any slow down. Right now, I have open: 9 > konqueror windows (not tabs), kmail, kmahjongg, konsole with 3 sessions, > noatun, kcalc. My background is a 1024x768 photo which also takes some > memory. Switching between virtual desktops is instantaneous, all apps are > very responsive. My current Fluxbox session uses 26% of 384 MiB of RAM, with 6 firefox tabs, Gaim, Eterm, Conky, mpd and other mostly insignificant processes. But I still experience a serious drop in responsiveness when opening, say, 3 Slashdot tabs at once, or when starting linuxdcpp. > One good thing (among others) of using a real desktop environment is that all > apps share the vast majority of libraries which are loaded into memory just > once. When you mix environments or use an eclectic collection of unrelated > apps, they all draw in different libraries and memory usage goes up. I've tried to keep most things down to GTK and X. For instance, I haven't even installed qt. -- How's my English? How about my Netiquette? Do mail me if something is wrong with my behaviour. Thank you. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list