RE: [gentoo-user] A Theoretical install Question

RE: [gentoo-user] A Theoretical install Question

[burlingk]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hemmann, Volker Armin 
> [mailto:volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de] 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 3:34 PM
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] A Theoretical install Question
> 
> 
> On Dienstag, 22. Mai 2007, burlingk@cv63.navy.mil wrote:
> > Ok,  Here goes...
> >
> >
> > How large is the package archive for gentoo, assuming a 
> full copy of 
> > the portage tree, and all of the source tarballs in the distfiles 
> > directory of the average server?
> 
> dunno, but huge.
 <snip>
> you will waste a lot of bandwidth and diskspace. The mirror 
> might hate you for 
> it. You will have lots and lots of packages like packageX.1.1, 
> packageX.1.1.0, packageX.1.1.1....
> -- 
> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list

I think that a better option may be to decide which software I want,
and use emerge -ef <package> on each of the big packages to get just
what I need.  Maybe setting up a stage three install, with just the
kernel, boot loader, and portage and using 'emerge -ef world' first
might have the desired effect as far as getting the base system first.

:-)

That would also let me make sure that I have an up to date portage tree,
and just the files I need and maybe a few more. ^^;;

Does that sound better, and less likely to piss off the mirrors? :P

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Re: [gentoo-user] A Theoretical install Question

[Hemmann, Volker Armin]

On Dienstag, 22. Mai 2007, burlingk@cv63.navy.mil wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hemmann, Volker Armin
> > [mailto:volker.armin.hemmann@tu-clausthal.de]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 3:34 PM
> > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] A Theoretical install Question
> >
> > On Dienstag, 22. Mai 2007, burlingk@cv63.navy.mil wrote:
> > > Ok,  Here goes...
> > >
> > >
> > > How large is the package archive for gentoo, assuming a
> >
> > full copy of
> >
> > > the portage tree, and all of the source tarballs in the distfiles
> > > directory of the average server?
> >
> > dunno, but huge.
>
>  <snip>
>
> > you will waste a lot of bandwidth and diskspace. The mirror
> > might hate you for
> > it. You will have lots and lots of packages like packageX.1.1,
> > packageX.1.1.0, packageX.1.1.1....
> > --
> > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
>
> I think that a better option may be to decide which software I want,
> and use emerge -ef <package> on each of the big packages to get just
> what I need.  Maybe setting up a stage three install, with just the
> kernel, boot loader, and portage and using 'emerge -ef world' first
> might have the desired effect as far as getting the base system first.
>
> :-)
>
> That would also let me make sure that I have an up to date portage tree,
> and just the files I need and maybe a few more. ^^;;
>
> Does that sound better, and less likely to piss off the mirrors? :P

yes ;)

but why not set 'parallel-fetch' in your make.conf? That way portage should 
download packages, while compiling?
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[gentoo-user] Re: A Theoretical install Question

[»Q«]

<burlingk@cv63.navy.mil> wrote:

> I think that a better option may be to decide which software I want,
> and use emerge -ef <package> on each of the big packages to get just
> what I need.

If you populate your world file first (by hand if you like), then one
emerge -ef world should get you all the files you might need.

Multiple emerge -ef <package> commands would work ok, but it would
involve a lot of unnecessary checksumming.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A Theoretical install Question

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Tue, 22 May 2007 03:07:57 -0500, »Q« wrote:

> If you populate your world file first (by hand if you like), then one
> emerge -ef world should get you all the files you might need.

That won't work, portage will complain that there is a problem with our
world file and bail out. Put the packages you want in a file like world
then do "emerge -ef $(cat myworld)".


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[gentoo-user] Re: A Theoretical install Question

[»Q«]

In <news:20070522093935.1f1881a6@zaphod.digimed.co.uk>,
Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 22 May 2007 03:07:57 -0500, »Q« wrote:
> 
> > If you populate your world file first (by hand if you like), then
> > one emerge -ef world should get you all the files you might need.
> 
> That won't work, portage will complain that there is a problem with
> our world file and bail out. 

Ah, thanks.  I didn't realize emerge was unhappy with packages in world
which are not already installed.

> Put the packages you want in a file like world then do 
> "emerge -ef $(cat myworld)".

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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: A Theoretical install Question

[burlingk]

> > 
> > That won't work, portage will complain that there is a problem with 
> > our world file and bail out.
> 
> Ah, thanks.  I didn't realize emerge was unhappy with 
> packages in world which are not already installed.
> 
> > Put the packages you want in a file like world then do
> > "emerge -ef $(cat myworld)".
> 
> -- 
> >Q<

Another option might be to just go ahead and buckle down and 
'emerge -au world', then start the process.

^^

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A Theoretical install Question

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Wed, 23 May 2007 08:09:04 +0900, burlingk@cv63.navy.mil wrote:

> > > Put the packages you want in a file like world then do
> > > "emerge -ef $(cat myworld)".  

> Another option might be to just go ahead and buckle down and 
> 'emerge -au world', then start the process.

Which won't do much if your world file is more or less empty.


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"Bother," said Pooh, as the media exposed his sexual depravity.

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