From: William Kenworthy <billk@iinet.net.au>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: Living in NGL: was: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2022 09:46:28 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <bb0ed4cb-7fb9-52f2-d222-273a642640f1@iinet.net.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGfcS_m4u+aX-WbdGUOH860JC7WjU2wzPT=XZ8em5oSwOdWa+Q@mail.gmail.com>
On 19/12/22 21:30, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 7:51 AM Wols Lists <antlists@youngman.org.uk> wrote:
>> On 19/12/2022 12:00, Rich Freeman wrote:
>>> On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 12:11 AM Dale<rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> If I like these Raspberry things, may make a media box out of one. I'd
>>>> like to have a remote tho. 😉
>>> So, I've done that. Honestly, these days a Roku is probably the
>>> better option, or something like a Google Chromecast or the 47 other
>>> variations on this them.
>> Where do you put that 2TB drive on your Roku or Chromecast?
>>
>> I'm thinking of building a media server, not to drive the TV, but to
>> record and store. I thought that was what a media server was!
> So, he said "media box," which I assumed meant the client that
> attaches to the TV. There are some canned solutions for media servers
> - I think the NVidia Shield can run Plex server for example. However,
> in general server-side I'd go amd64.
>
> My current solution is:
> 1. Moosefs for storage: amd64 container for the master, and ARM SBCs
> for the chunkservers which host all the USB3 hard drives. With a
> modest number of them performance is very good, though certainly not
> as good as Ceph or local storage. (I do have moosefs in my overlay -
> might try to get that into the main repo when I get a chance.)
> 2. Plex server in a container on amd64 (looking to migrate this to k8s
> over the holiday).
> 3. Rokus or TV apps for the clients.
Very similar to what I have (intel/arm for moosefs) - I am effectively
using moosefs as a distributed NAS (fuse mount onto whatever system(s) I
am using) with built in data protection and redundancy. LVM and similar
pooling is discouraged as it defeats some of the built in data
protection. To increase storage, just add a disk, format, add to the
config and reload - it automatically redistributes the data. Similarly,
you can add/remove storage or whole storage systems while live with no
risk to your data (within limits!!!) With LVM, if a drive fails, you are
SOL and offline until you can recover and restore the data. On a recent
holiday, an SD card failed and a moosefs arm SBC in AU went offline -
discovered the next morning when doing status checks from a ship in the
Mediterranean(!) - it had already backfilled and protection was back at
normal, moosefs was just missing 2Tb of storage space. 5 weeks later
when I got home, I replaced the SD card, rebooted and readded the system
all with no risk to the data.
Dale, I was where you are about 10 or so years ago and was forced to
move on when that design hit its limits - forget LVM etc, these days
there are lots of better ways to do what you want with less risk to your
data. Another factor is power - moosefs is currently 1 intel and 7 arm
SBC's that use 90-110w (most of which is due to using ancient WD and
Seagate hard drives) - where as my intel desktop is 90w when idle, or
over 300 w when compiling etc. so its off unless its being used. Power
is important to me as its expensive!!
BillK
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2022-12-08 12:37 [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives Dale
2022-12-08 13:31 ` Mark Knecht
2022-12-08 13:58 ` Dale
2022-12-08 17:16 ` Mark Knecht
2022-12-08 23:35 ` Daniel Frey
2022-12-09 0:34 ` Dale
2022-12-10 0:10 ` Paul Colquhoun
2022-12-08 18:36 ` Wols Lists
2022-12-08 20:05 ` Mark Knecht
2022-12-08 20:44 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2022-12-09 13:13 ` Michael
2022-12-09 13:38 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2022-12-09 14:27 ` [OT] " Peter Humphrey
2022-12-09 14:38 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2022-12-10 0:41 ` Peter Humphrey
2022-12-09 15:28 ` Dale
2022-12-10 9:20 ` Wols Lists
2022-12-10 16:19 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2022-12-10 16:30 ` Wols Lists
2022-12-10 17:27 ` Michael
2022-12-10 18:17 ` David Rosenbaum
2022-12-11 4:45 ` David Rosenbaum
2022-12-09 14:15 ` Rich Freeman
2022-12-08 23:09 ` Dale
2022-12-08 13:52 ` Rich Freeman
2022-12-08 23:30 ` Dale
2022-12-08 23:38 ` Rich Freeman
2022-12-09 0:03 ` Dale
2022-12-09 0:17 ` Peter Humphrey
2022-12-09 0:45 ` Dale
2022-12-09 8:27 ` Wol
2022-12-09 10:34 ` Peter Humphrey
2022-12-11 11:34 ` [OT] " Peter Humphrey
2022-12-13 17:36 ` Laurence Perkins
2022-12-09 8:24 ` Wol
2022-12-09 0:06 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2022-12-09 1:15 ` Dale
2022-12-09 7:56 ` Wol
2022-12-09 9:15 ` Dale
2022-12-09 6:22 ` William Kenworthy
2022-12-08 13:59 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2022-12-08 14:11 ` Rich Freeman
2022-12-08 16:56 ` Laurence Perkins
2022-12-08 23:26 ` Rich Freeman
2022-12-09 14:11 ` Dale
2022-12-10 20:41 ` Dale
2022-12-10 21:28 ` Mark Knecht
2022-12-10 23:54 ` Dale
2022-12-11 3:31 ` Mark Knecht
2022-12-11 4:35 ` Dale
2022-12-11 14:07 ` Mark Knecht
2022-12-11 15:01 ` Dale
2022-12-11 15:44 ` Mark Knecht
2022-12-11 23:43 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2022-12-12 0:32 ` Dale
2022-12-12 1:55 ` Dale
2022-12-12 23:29 ` Mark Knecht
2022-12-13 0:43 ` Dale
2022-12-11 2:46 ` David Rosenbaum
[not found] ` <CAL+8heNN7CCQcTrhjuJboAnxvi7ACWVAgPuXqj3bwTPNaNQ94A@mail.gmail.com>
2022-12-11 2:49 ` David Rosenbaum
2022-12-11 4:38 ` David Rosenbaum
2022-12-16 4:08 ` Dale
2022-12-16 12:56 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2022-12-16 22:35 ` Dale
2022-12-16 19:12 ` Mark Knecht
2022-12-16 22:43 ` Dale
2022-12-16 23:49 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2022-12-17 3:50 ` Dale
2022-12-17 4:47 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2022-12-17 6:49 ` Dale
2022-12-17 13:54 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2022-12-17 15:15 ` Mark Knecht
2022-12-17 15:51 ` Dale
2022-12-17 16:09 ` Mark Knecht
2022-12-17 16:42 ` Dale
2022-12-17 17:18 ` Mark Knecht
2022-12-17 22:56 ` David Rosenbaum
2022-12-17 19:10 ` Wol
2022-12-17 20:03 ` Mark Knecht
2022-12-17 23:41 ` Dale
2022-12-18 14:04 ` Mark Knecht
2022-12-18 15:12 ` Dale
2022-12-18 15:27 ` Michael
2022-12-18 18:38 ` Dale
2022-12-18 18:55 ` Mark Knecht
2022-12-18 19:20 ` Dale
2022-12-18 19:25 ` Mark Knecht
2022-12-18 22:08 ` Dale
2022-12-19 21:13 ` ralfconn
2022-12-18 18:56 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2022-12-18 15:29 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2022-12-18 18:59 ` Dale
2022-12-18 19:53 ` Wol
2022-12-18 22:11 ` Dale
2022-12-19 11:08 ` Wols Lists
2022-12-20 6:52 ` Dale
2022-12-26 8:01 ` David Rosenbaum
2022-12-26 8:00 ` David Rosenbaum
2022-12-18 15:29 ` Mark Knecht
2022-12-18 15:38 ` Mark Knecht
2022-12-18 15:48 ` Living in NGL: was: " Jack
2022-12-18 16:17 ` Mark Knecht
2022-12-18 19:00 ` Jack
2022-12-18 19:07 ` Dale
2022-12-18 19:22 ` Mark Knecht
2022-12-18 19:30 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2022-12-18 20:06 ` Rich Freeman
2022-12-18 20:30 ` Mark Knecht
2022-12-18 20:34 ` Mark Knecht
2022-12-18 20:53 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2022-12-18 21:53 ` Dale
2022-12-18 22:08 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2022-12-18 22:18 ` Dale
2022-12-19 1:37 ` Rich Freeman
2022-12-19 5:11 ` Dale
2022-12-19 12:00 ` Rich Freeman
2022-12-19 12:51 ` Wols Lists
2022-12-19 13:30 ` Rich Freeman
2022-12-19 16:43 ` Mark Knecht
2022-12-20 0:00 ` Rich Freeman
2022-12-20 1:46 ` William Kenworthy [this message]
2022-12-18 17:11 ` Wol
2022-12-18 18:03 ` Mark Knecht
2022-12-18 0:20 ` Wol
2022-12-17 20:47 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2022-12-21 0:14 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2022-12-21 2:47 ` Dale
2022-12-21 5:53 ` Wols Lists
2022-12-21 6:19 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2022-12-21 7:01 ` William Kenworthy
2022-12-21 20:03 ` Wol
2022-12-21 20:40 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2022-12-21 21:33 ` Wol
2022-12-21 6:52 ` Dale
2022-12-21 13:50 ` Mark Knecht
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