[gentoo-user] Laptop ATI Integrated Video Performance?

[gentoo-user] Laptop ATI Integrated Video Performance?

[Drew Tomlinson]

I have a Gateway laptop with an integrated ATI graphics board.  lspci 
detects it as:

01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS485 [Radeon 
Xpress 1100 IGP]

However when attempting to view a DVD at full screen, the display is a 
bit "jumpy" as if the video hardware is not fast enough.  Keeping the 
video smaller in a window produces much better results.  As you might 
expect, the larger the video picture, the worse the jumpiness gets.  
Results are the same with both Totem and VLC.

I'm using x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.433 and have followed guides and 
verified direct rendering is enabled (however I don't know if that 
matters for displaying video).

Is this the best I can expect for this video hardware?  I can post my 
xorg.conf if there's a possibility that some tweak will improve performance.

Thanks,

Drew

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Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop ATI Integrated Video Performance?

[Stroller]

On 25 Dec 2007, at 15:59, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
> ...
> I'm using x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.433 and have followed guides  
> and verified direct rendering is enabled (however I don't know if  
> that matters for displaying video).
>
> Is this the best I can expect for this video hardware?  I can post  
> my xorg.conf if there's a possibility that some tweak will improve  
> performance.

You should demonstrate that your xorg.conf is referencing the  
appropriate ATi driver.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop ATI Integrated Video Performance?

[Drew Tomlinson]

On 12/25/2007 8:56 AM Stroller said the following:
>
> On 25 Dec 2007, at 15:59, Drew Tomlinson wrote:
>> ...
>> I'm using x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.433 and have followed guides and 
>> verified direct rendering is enabled (however I don't know if that 
>> matters for displaying video).
>>
>> Is this the best I can expect for this video hardware?  I can post my 
>> xorg.conf if there's a possibility that some tweak will improve 
>> performance.
>
> You should demonstrate that your xorg.conf is referencing the 
> appropriate ATi driver.
>
> Stroller.
Thank you for your reply.  I'm not sure how to demonstrate other that 
pasting the relevant section xorg log:

(II) LoadModule: "fglrx"
(II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers//fglrx_drv.so
(II) Module fglrx: vendor="FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc."
        compiled for 7.1.0, module version = 8.43.2
        Module class: X.Org Video Driver

Is this sufficient?

Thanks,

Drew

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Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop ATI Integrated Video Performance?

[András Csányi]

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2007/12/25, Drew Tomlinson <drew@mykitchentable.net>:
> I have a Gateway laptop with an integrated ATI graphics board.  lspci
> detects it as:
>
> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS485 [Radeon
> Xpress 1100 IGP]
>
> However when attempting to view a DVD at full screen, the display is a
> bit "jumpy" as if the video hardware is not fast enough.  Keeping the
> video smaller in a window produces much better results.  As you might
> expect, the larger the video picture, the worse the jumpiness gets.
> Results are the same with both Totem and VLC.
>
> I'm using x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.433 and have followed guides and
> verified direct rendering is enabled (however I don't know if that
> matters for displaying video).
>
> Is this the best I can expect for this video hardware?  I can post my
> xorg.conf if there's a possibility that some tweak will improve performance.

Hi!

I have this problem but i have another ATI inegrated card
(01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RC410 [Radeon
Xpress 200M])

The solution is the next:
- use fglrx (you have to test the 3D rendering with fgl_fglxgears command)
- use mplayer with -vo gl or -vo gl2 option (the gl and gl2 is opengl
video output)

I hope i can help you.

András

ps.: sorry my english :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop ATI Integrated Video Performance?

[Drew Tomlinson]

On 12/25/2007 9:49 AM András Csányi said the following:
> 2007/12/25, Drew Tomlinson <drew@mykitchentable.net>:
>   
>> I have a Gateway laptop with an integrated ATI graphics board.  lspci
>> detects it as:
>>
>> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS485 [Radeon
>> Xpress 1100 IGP]
>>
>> However when attempting to view a DVD at full screen, the display is a
>> bit "jumpy" as if the video hardware is not fast enough.  Keeping the
>> video smaller in a window produces much better results.  As you might
>> expect, the larger the video picture, the worse the jumpiness gets.
>> Results are the same with both Totem and VLC.
>>
>> I'm using x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.433 and have followed guides and
>> verified direct rendering is enabled (however I don't know if that
>> matters for displaying video).
>>
>> Is this the best I can expect for this video hardware?  I can post my
>> xorg.conf if there's a possibility that some tweak will improve performance.
>>     
>
> Hi!
>
> I have this problem but i have another ATI inegrated card
> (01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RC410 [Radeon
> Xpress 200M])
>
> The solution is the next:
> - use fglrx (you have to test the 3D rendering with fgl_fglxgears command)
> - use mplayer with -vo gl or -vo gl2 option (the gl and gl2 is opengl
> video output)
>   
I have fglrx and verified it works.  I have not tried mplayer. Does 
mplayer work better than other players?
> I hope i can help you.
>
> András
>
> ps.: sorry my english :)
>   
Your English is good.

Thanks,

Drew


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Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop ATI Integrated Video Performance?

[András Csányi]

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2007/12/29, Drew Tomlinson <drew@mykitchentable.net>:
> > The solution is the next:
> > - use fglrx (you have to test the 3D rendering with fgl_fglxgears command)
> > - use mplayer with -vo gl or -vo gl2 option (the gl and gl2 is opengl
> > video output)
> >
> I have fglrx and verified it works.  I have not tried mplayer. Does
> mplayer work better than other players?

My opinion the mplayer is the best media player.
I tryed gxine, vlc but the mplayer is the best for me. Look the man
page (i think this is really big)  and you will see the options.

András

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[gentoo-user] Re: Laptop ATI Integrated Video Performance?

[Grant Edwards]

On 2007-12-25, Drew Tomlinson <drew@mykitchentable.net> wrote:

> I have a Gateway laptop with an integrated ATI graphics board.  lspci 
> detects it as:
>
> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS485 [Radeon 
> Xpress 1100 IGP]
>
> However when attempting to view a DVD at full screen, the display is a 
> bit "jumpy" as if the video hardware is not fast enough.

It's pretty hard to believe that the video hardware is the
problem.  I've played back DVDs on laptop ATI chipsets a decade
older than yours and it worked fine.  I've currently got a two
year old ATI laptop chipset (X300?), and it has no trouble
playing DVDs using either the Radeon or the fglrx drive.

My guess is the optical drive doesn't have DMA enabled.

You may want to check to make sure the XV video overlay support
is enabled, but even without it, playing back SD video purely
in software shouldn't be a problem on anything with a CPU
faster than 500MHz.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Laptop ATI Integrated Video Performance?

[András Csányi]

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2007/12/25, Grant Edwards <grante@visi.com>:
> On 2007-12-25, Drew Tomlinson <drew@mykitchentable.net> wrote:
>
> > I have a Gateway laptop with an integrated ATI graphics board.  lspci
> > detects it as:
> >
> > 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS485 [Radeon
> > Xpress 1100 IGP]
> >
> > However when attempting to view a DVD at full screen, the display is a
> > bit "jumpy" as if the video hardware is not fast enough.
>
> It's pretty hard to believe that the video hardware is the
> problem.  I've played back DVDs on laptop ATI chipsets a decade
> older than yours and it worked fine.  I've currently got a two
> year old ATI laptop chipset (X300?), and it has no trouble
> playing DVDs using either the Radeon or the fglrx drive.
>
> My guess is the optical drive doesn't have DMA enabled.

I think it's true :)

Andras

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Laptop ATI Integrated Video Performance?

[Drew Tomlinson]

On 12/25/2007 10:19 AM Grant Edwards said the following:
> On 2007-12-25, Drew Tomlinson <drew@mykitchentable.net> wrote:
>
>   
>> I have a Gateway laptop with an integrated ATI graphics board.  lspci 
>> detects it as:
>>
>> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS485 [Radeon 
>> Xpress 1100 IGP]
>>
>> However when attempting to view a DVD at full screen, the display is a 
>> bit "jumpy" as if the video hardware is not fast enough.
>>     
>
> It's pretty hard to believe that the video hardware is the
> problem.  I've played back DVDs on laptop ATI chipsets a decade
> older than yours and it worked fine.  I've currently got a two
> year old ATI laptop chipset (X300?), and it has no trouble
> playing DVDs using either the Radeon or the fglrx drive.
>
> My guess is the optical drive doesn't have DMA enabled.
>   
DMA is enabled.  If it were not, I would also expect to see the 
choppiness no matter what the video size.

tagalong conf.d # hdparm /dev/hdb          

/dev/hdb:
 IO_support    =  0 (default 16-bit)
 unmaskirq     =  0 (off)
 using_dma     =  1 (on)
 keepsettings  =  0 (off)
 readonly      =  0 (off)
 readahead     = 256 (on)

> You may want to check to make sure the XV video overlay support
> is enabled, but even without it, playing back SD video purely
> in software shouldn't be a problem on anything with a CPU
> faster than 500MHz.
>   

How can I verify XV video overlay support?  I'm sure my CPU is capable 
as its an AMD Turion dual core running at 1.6ghz.

Thanks,

Drew


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