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On 16/04/2023 22:30, Mitch D. wrote:
> Wol, can you elaborate on why you think Grub is deprecated on EFI systems?

Because EFI is a boot manager? Why chain-load boot managers?

Cheers,
Wol
> 
> On Sun, Apr 16, 2023, 15:17 hitachi303 <gentoo-user@konstantinhansen.de 
> <mailto:gentoo-user@konstantinhansen.de>> wrote:
> 
>     Am 16.04.23 um 21:11 schrieb Mitch D.:
>      > A minimal EFI bootloader can show an updated menu for the new
>     kernels
>      > without needing to make regular writes to the EFI variable
>     storage. I
>      > didn't know Grub was deprecated, but there are other options.
>     rEFInd is
>      > pretty. Syslinux is flexible.
> 
>     https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Installation/Bootloader
>     <https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Installation/Bootloader>
> 
>     Default: GRUB
>