[gentoo-user] Firefox and Java bringing X down

[gentoo-user] Firefox and Java bringing X down

[Bruno Lustosa]

Hello.

I find this most weird. Whenever I try to open firefox and then open a
tab with a local Java applet, not only does firefox die, but it causes
the X server to die with signal 8.

Here are the versions I'm using:
[ebuild   R   ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.5.0.4  USE="java -debug
-gnome -ipv6 -mozdevelop -xinerama -xprint"
[ebuild   R   ] dev-java/sun-jdk-1.4.2.10-r2  USE="alsa nsplugin -X
-browserplugin -doc -examples -jce -mozilla"
[ebuild   R   ] dev-java/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06-r2  USE="alsa nsplugin
-X -browserplugin -mozilla"

I thought X clients shouldn't bring the X server down, but this is
clearly what's happening here. I can reproduce it everytime.
I don't even know where to start looking.

Does anyone ever had a problem similar to this?

Thanks

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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox and Java bringing X down

[Roy Wright]

Bruno Lustosa wrote:
> Hello.
>
> I find this most weird. Whenever I try to open firefox and then open a
> tab with a local Java applet, not only does firefox die, but it causes
> the X server to die with signal 8.
>
> I thought X clients shouldn't bring the X server down, but this is
> clearly what's happening here. I can reproduce it everytime.
> I don't even know where to start looking.
>
> Does anyone ever had a problem similar to this?
>
I've noticed the same thing starting last Tuesday (I'm ~x86).
Hopefully we can trace this down this weekend...

Roy
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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox and Java bringing X down

[Caster]

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On 6/23/06, Bruno Lustosa <bruno.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello.
>
> I find this most weird. Whenever I try to open firefox and then open a
> tab with a local Java applet, not only does firefox die, but it causes
> the X server to die with signal 8.
>
> Here are the versions I'm using:
> [ebuild   R   ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.5.0.4  USE="java -debug
> -gnome -ipv6 -mozdevelop -xinerama -xprint"
> [ebuild   R   ] dev-java/sun-jdk-1.4.2.10-r2  USE="alsa nsplugin -X
> -browserplugin -doc -examples -jce -mozilla"
> [ebuild   R   ] dev-java/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06-r2  USE="alsa nsplugin
> -X -browserplugin -mozilla"


Just wondering, why do you have -X useflag? You intend to use java in X,
don't you...

I thought X clients shouldn't bring the X server down, but this is
> clearly what's happening here. I can reproduce it everytime.
> I don't even know where to start looking.


Which xorg version?

Does anyone ever had a problem similar to this?


Not here.

Caster

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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox and Java bringing X down

[Alexander Skwar]

Bruno Lustosa wrote:

> [ebuild   R   ] dev-java/sun-jdk-1.4.2.10-r2  USE="alsa nsplugin -X
> -browserplugin -doc -examples -jce -mozilla"
> [ebuild   R   ] dev-java/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06-r2  USE="alsa nsplugin
> -X -browserplugin -mozilla"

Hm, why do you have "nsplugin" enabled for both (and I might be
mistaken, but isn't nsplugin supposed to be obsoleted by
browserplugin)? I'd enable browserplugin only for sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06-r2.

> Does anyone ever had a problem similar to this?

Nope.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox and Java bringing X down

[Roy Wright]

Alexander Skwar wrote:
> Bruno Lustosa wrote:
>
>> [ebuild   R   ] dev-java/sun-jdk-1.4.2.10-r2  USE="alsa nsplugin -X
>> -browserplugin -doc -examples -jce -mozilla"
>> [ebuild   R   ] dev-java/sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06-r2  USE="alsa nsplugin
>> -X -browserplugin -mozilla"
>
> Hm, why do you have "nsplugin" enabled for both (and I might be
> mistaken, but isn't nsplugin supposed to be obsoleted by
> browserplugin)? I'd enable browserplugin only for 
> sun-jre-bin-1.5.0.06-r2.

Other way around:

# grep browserplugin /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc
dev-java/blackdown-jdk:browserplugin - Install netscape-compatible 
plugin (DEPRECATED, use global useflag 'nsplugin')
dev-java/blackdown-jre:browserplugin - Install netscape-compatible 
plugin (DEPRECATED, use global useflag 'nsplugin')
dev-java/ibm-jdk-bin:browserplugin - Install netscape-compatible plugin 
(DEPRECATED, use global useflag 'nsplugin')
dev-java/ibm-jre-bin:browserplugin - Install netscape-compatible plugin 
(DEPRECATED, use global useflag 'nsplugin')
dev-java/sun-jdk:browserplugin - Install netscape-compatible plugin 
(DEPRECATED, use global useflag 'nsplugin')
dev-java/sun-jre-bin:browserplugin - Install netscape-compatible plugin 
(DEPRECATED, use global useflag 'nsplugin')



HTH,
Roy
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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox and Java bringing X down

[Walter Dnes]

On Fri, Jun 23, 2006 at 03:56:40PM -0300, Bruno Lustosa wrote
> Hello.
> 
> I find this most weird. Whenever I try to open firefox and then open a
> tab with a local Java applet, not only does firefox die, but it causes
> the X server to die with signal 8.

  Are you faking another user agent (like IE) with a line in user.js?  I
vaguely recall Java having a problem with that.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox and Java bringing X down

[Bruno Lustosa]

On 6/23/06, Caster <cast3r@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just wondering, why do you have -X useflag? You intend to use java in X,
> don't you...

I have set -X globally, to not build X support to things that don't
exclusively need it.
In this case, things were working so far. I guess some upgrade broke
it (perhaps xorg-x11).

> Which xorg version?

That's xorg-x11-7.1.
When I'm back at work, I'll try changing the sun jre to the blackdown
jre and see if things are still broken.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox and Java bringing X down

[Bruno Lustosa]

> > I thought X clients shouldn't bring the X server down, but this is
> > clearly what's happening here. I can reproduce it everytime.
> > I don't even know where to start looking.
> >
> > Does anyone ever had a problem similar to this?
> >
> I've noticed the same thing starting last Tuesday (I'm ~x86).
> Hopefully we can trace this down this weekend...

Just as an update.
I downgraded my Xorg to 7.0-r1 so I could use the binary nvidia
drivers, and the Java problem also went away.
Seems to be an issue with the new Xorg.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox and Java bringing X down

[Roy Wright]

Bruno Lustosa wrote:
> Just as an update.
> I downgraded my Xorg to 7.0-r1 so I could use the binary nvidia
> drivers, and the Java problem also went away.
> Seems to be an issue with the new Xorg.
>
Just a follow up.  I was experiencing the problem with xorg 7.0.  I tried
lots of permutations, firefox source build, firefox-bin, rebuilding java 
1.4/1.5
with/without nsplugin.  No joy.

But the problem went away after recently upgrading to the new java system.
Basically running sun-jdk-1.4 for system, and 1.5 for user.

So my guess is it was some java mis-match.

HTH,
Roy
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