From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C567F138206 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 17:21:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 64CE1E08E0; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 17:21:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B20DEE0848 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 17:21:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([173.239.215.7]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003 [212.227.17.184]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M0gcI-1eqsJj0k8c-00utv0; Fri, 12 Jan 2018 18:21:21 +0100 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Microcode updates for "old" Intel CPU's To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <1840586.ccpF9LBdYI@dell_xps> From: "Taiidan@gmx.com" Cc: Corbin Bird , michaelkintzios@gmail.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 12:21:19 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.2 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:ldDQeNvpRa9QaqvoT2KnLsaWSQLwfMjRxgaocQ7yH5nlYu979rs 3O5NJTYcY8DDRWYa9Pm7qjXu0EnnmWbWIwf1xU17lwO+A/ysw4TPgHI16NnSKgovPASPu2v v1lH+ES9CblMQcef8jT5hsqWVE20ls+pydyKfBCEi5EaDLRiCzt5W572BsDmDiEHXhVRTTT g2OePhqOBkW3fGFllKV4w== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:XNPJ7ZPH1pw=:RKsi5nDd+N+b3RIqzrNOOu Mcfl21BqUH1+hSW3A+VIJfZk97NRn4vr5vX15lvrX4Qd3X5a+qKBxJ+S0x7qlH/MBWA85Vyrn Xx8OSe2PRj/En+O/6BqhM3MdmOeQ30cjjCs5hf9AndDvMm4n6ZYgyUawLsMKIU6oNVasRHPpl E3YgQZ1COt2FriVMUhQTCylReAbjMUbhN1usaMMXZHNnvxfUaS+B+xuaZxLMo1LOKvzVsWfHn x8/7J7JddBB55Ok4qiz0PT8VItwu1n815bNXKmLFajS0/EloKY7QAw7p7BnuqMUJiqyf2qkOI yes53z4n6y9wmLUy7FfO3wof1z3EYTN8PBNhyf4rCZP79ZOFJrdDQRhvJdamMkDiYmylWXxYQ vIMaE2qhidsC7Ac8oa8pAXUlqSOeEgVCWYVmvXU/MiRPPIS4k40w8n6adUAWA6uh0t7LMdsus bCcfizCPsixYhw19kH0t7QgqDPTPfaHEqhZe6798akuIkNncC5dsY7xLprLdOPlRPsEStsjhP dSsD45to0imjmStuU90JzuexGLhUh8bkhGRdtC+Wabzbzxu1pOTGRWxp3/sJnA2RvPQUhGVoh rEoIl0uP2lp7CAO56HyMdQg7ZEGpyycOFOf4jjUbpxIgyyMIlLtBUJsYlqIuYThViFo/LUU3L pPo+vxHi8gj+0o81DDmpUnPkh6YDGbYk03mUhlidMI/5Bt39lNZDorI3R4lrpksV6TamPyTmX XNVAmYKOHNAKi4TaqZ6p3rF7LO7ou0aFbXIySVnXFx9dGPM2YQEy8gSmBuMD3WYcVzb4YfROO 1Uuqgr2vTx3zohyCSuc3Vh0nEeP0ZXKzxbvD1ywuyTsvniLLgyoNx885CLA1XLslUq+/uPI X-Archives-Salt: e20bd85f-519a-4d2d-90f6-66a8682c9703 X-Archives-Hash: 5c5c59e71cbb105cfd0f47535e5c3bce AMD says they are releasing microcode updates for their previous generation CPU's (Opteron, FX, etc) next week. So much better than intel throwing older CPU owners to the wolves. In terms of what CPU to get - I would get either an AMD G34/C32 Opteron (pre-PSP) with a compatible libre firmware board (KGPE-D16 or KCMA-D8) or if you can afford it a POWER9 system as IBM quickly released updates for POWER to solve this issue and if they ever stopped due to considering your system "too old" POWER9 is owner controlled and documented so the community could theoretically patch its own microcode. You can make a C32 libre firmware gaming system for around 500-700, so that is quite affordable.