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From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>
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Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 11:06:38 +0200
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On 27/12/2016 01:02, lee wrote:
> Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> On 26/12/2016 21:42, lee wrote:
>>> Well, I guess you haven't realised yet that reality doesn't exist.
>>> Bubbles are a self-imposed limit for those who believe in reality.
>>> You probably hit that wall and now try hard to remain confined.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, this won't make sense to you until you come to realise.
>>
>>
>> I *strongly* recommend you cease insulting people's intelligence on this
>> list.
> 
> It was not my intention to do that, and if I did, I apologize.
> 
> Different people realise different things.  There are many things I will
> never realise and others I have.  There are things I won't understand
> before I have realised what is necessary to realise to understand them.
> Finding that someone won't understand something before they have
> realised something doesn't insult anyones intelligence.


OK.

I think you need to step back a little and apply the above to this
situation. By that I mean how you are interacting with others, not the
various questions about systemd, how many NICs a board has in general
and so on.

The results you are getting are far from optimum - you may eventually
get an answer that satisfies you but in general it is involving long
winding threads that frustrate others.

So I suggest you apply reason and investigation to determine why that
might be so.

One highly workable method is when you find yourself taking a contrary
position and about to explain why you think what you think, then reverse
it. Instead, state that you disagree, that you think something else and
invite the other to explain why they are saying what they are saying.
This method has high success in revealing to you what it is you have to
realise first, as you mention above)


> 
> 
>> This list (gentoo-user) contains the brightest minds, widest range of
>> experience (both CS-related and just generally in life), most articulate
>> and surprisingly, most tolerant, bunch of people I have ever come across
>> online; and I've been here for 10 years and doing online for 20+ years
>> and the above is not meant idly.
>>
>> I can't watch you type and I can't get in your headspace but based just
>> on what I read from you, your communications say something that is
>> frankly, very insulting to those individuals. There is no need to
>> disparage someone else just because their frame of reference differs
>> from yours.
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> p.s. You have a very long way to go still before you begin to match
>> Dale's contributions here.
> 
> So this is supposed to be a competition?

No, it's about people and how people communicate concepts and ideas.
It's about how Dale is a long term contributor and people generally
think well of him and how statistically he is right more often than he
is wrong. He's worth paying attention to.

-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckinnon@gmail.com