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Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 57.0.4 without pulseaudio? Possible?
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From: Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>
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Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2018 23:19:15 -0600
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tuxic@posteo.de wrote:
> On 01/13 10:29, Dale wrote:
>> tuxic@posteo.de wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Is it posible to use Firefox wihout pulseaudio installed?
>>> If "yes" -- how can I acchieche this?
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot for any help in advance!
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>> Meino
>>>
>> I found this.
>>
>> https://codelab.wordpress.com/2017/12/11/firefox-drops-alsa-apulse-to-the-rescue/
>>
>>
>> I read a bit and it may be interesting or may not but it seems to have
>> some sort of solution. If it doesn't, my Firefox is likely to be quiet,
>> whether it wants to or not. Then again, Palemoon may be a option if I
>> can get some addons to work.
>>
>> Let's hope that helps, both of us. :/
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-) :-)
>>
> Hi Dale,
>
> thanks for the informations!
>
> I tried Palemoon some time ago. I checked its security and privacy
> feature with certain sites on the internet, which provide such
> services and found some issues, which I wanted to discuss on their
> forum. The answer was not to believe such sites and in result security
> would be a matter of how much I believe in a certain software. My
> understanding is, that security is no believe system but a matter of
> well done software engineering. Therefore I quit Palemoon and I am no
> longer interested in it.
>
> I looked into the linked page and interestingly the solution suggested
> is exactlu what makes me headaches now: I have a blocker:
>
> * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
> * installed at the same time on the same system.
>
> (media-plugins/alsa-plugins-1.1.5:0/0::gentoo, installed) pulled in by
> >=media-plugins/alsa-plugins-1.0.27-r1[pulseaudio,abi_x86_32(-)?,abi_x86_64(-)?,abi_x86_x32(-)?,abi_mips_n32(-)?,abi_mips_n64(-)?,abi_mips_o32(-)?,abi_ppc_32(-)?,abi_ppc_64(-)?,abi_s390_32(-)?,abi_s390_64(-)?] (>=media-plugins/alsa-plugins-1.0.27-r1[pulseaudio,abi_x86_64(-)]) required by (media-sound/pulseaudio-11.1:0/0::gentoo, installed)
> media-plugins/alsa-plugins required by @selected
>
> (media-sound/apulse-0.1.10:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by
> media-sound/apulse required by (www-client/firefox-bin-57.0.4-r1:0/0::gentoo, installed)
>
>
> ...and apulse is one of it.
>
> How can I get out of it?
>
> Cheers
> Meino
>
I'm still on the older Firefox but I get this here:
root@fireball / # emerge -av apulse
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild N ] media-sound/apulse-0.1.10::gentoo ABI_X86="(64) -32
(-x32)" 108 KiB
Total: 1 package (1 new), Size of downloads: 108 KiB
Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] n
If you are already on the newer Firefox, which I guess you are, then
that may be what makes it block things. So, I tried this:
root@fireball / # emerge -av apulse firefox
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild N ] media-sound/apulse-0.1.10::gentoo ABI_X86="(64) -32
(-x32)" 108 KiB
[ebuild R ~] www-client/firefox-56.0::x-portage [56.0::gentoo]
USE="dbus gmp-autoupdate nsplugin startup-notification system-harfbuzz
system-jpeg system-libevent system-libvpx system-sqlite -bindist
-custom-cflags -custom-optimization -debug -eme-free -hardened -hwaccel
-jack (-neon) -pgo -pulseaudio (-selinux) -system-icu {-test} -wifi"
L10N="-ach -af -an -ar -as -ast -az -bg -bn-BD -bn-IN -br -bs -ca -cak
-cs -cy -da -de -dsb -el -en-GB -en-ZA -eo -es-AR -es-CL -es-ES -es-MX
-et -eu -fa -ff -fi -fr -fy -ga -gd -gl -gn -gu -he -hi -hr -hsb -hu -hy
-id -is -it -ja -ka -kab -kk -km -kn -ko -lij -lt -lv -mai -mk -ml -mr
-ms -nb -nl -nn -or -pa -pl -pt-BR -pt-PT -rm -ro -ru -si -sk -sl -son
-sq -sr -sv -ta -te -th -tr -uk -uz -vi -xh -zh-CN -zh-TW" 249,404 KiB
Total: 2 packages (1 new, 1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 249,512 KiB
Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No]
For some reason, it likes the idea. So, differences between us. I
notice you are on a newer version of alsa than I am. Here's mine:
[IP-] [ ] media-libs/alsa-lib-1.1.2:0
[IP-] [ ] media-sound/alsa-utils-1.1.2:0.9
Could it be that it doesn't like the newer version of alsa, yet at
least? Possible.
Does that help any? Could you drop to that lower version of alsa and
see if it helps or is there a needed fix for you in that newer version?
Dale
:-) :-)
P. S. Keep in mind, I'd like to get this to work here too later on. ;-)