From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FrLSa-0007UR-P5 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:02:33 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with SMTP id k5GL05Jp002539; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 21:00:05 GMT Received: from wx-out-0102.google.com (wx-out-0102.google.com [66.249.82.204]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5GKpO0B006445 for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 20:51:25 GMT Received: by wx-out-0102.google.com with SMTP id i30so536350wxd for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 13:51:24 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=oXSIFxDVeQdTADHDZ483Io4Aj+Q9hlj+DZKOIz0fmbVwhnZ/YI+e8ndiRz8A05mWShdiCnlVMjWEXX/qMAOlq4nwTb1mNcRFewqJWua009uvmerV7SSrDj7kJ6Hb1cPJty9pGsF73ctwm2Y/IBgLkHWM6oxvt5qLZ6yeijPg2E4= Received: by 10.70.71.4 with SMTP id t4mr165987wxa; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 13:51:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.84.20 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Jun 2006 13:51:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 13:51:24 -0700 From: "James Ausmus" To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Gentoo on an AMD 64bit portable In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Archives-Salt: 6826781f-878f-4cfe-9903-129e3c5ea9d1 X-Archives-Hash: be5a0890e5ea1ea779dbc13cacc5c3b2 On 6/16/06, James wrote: > Hello, > > I've seen snipits of various issues related to running gentoo on a 64 bit > amd processor. In particular, I'd like to get a 'low power' > chip such as the Turion in a portable. One of my concerns is whether to use > 32 bit or 64 bit Gentoo on a 64 bit AMD portable. Is there > a document I can read somewhere that explains the merits > and problems on how to set up Gentoo on a 64 bit machine? > If not can somebody explain the caveats of 64 bit (amd) gentoo? > I do not wish to be on the 'bleeding edge' of 64 bit AMD issues, > but, I'd like to access the power. I'm running a variety of > 32 bit stable gentoo systems now, with relative ease. > > > Another problem I run into is that I must have a 9 pin serial port > (you know with a 16x50+ chip). I use my portables to talk to > a wide variety of industrial equipment that all use standard 9 pin > serial ports. I know that there are pci cards to give mult serial ports > and usb-serial converter devices, but I have never used any of them > so I need recommendations on alternative serial (rs232C) hardware. > > This limits me pretty much to Clevo based portables, unless > somebody else can point me to a 64 bit AMD portable with > 9 pin serials ports, or a hardware alternative that is robust. > > > Any information/recommendations on 64 bit amd portables in most > welcome. > I've been *extremely* happy with my xtremenotebooks.com system - it's based on a Clevo (as is the Alienware equivalent), and it was about a $1000 cheaper than the Alienware equivalent. I went with the desktop replacement strategy - AMD 64X2 4400+, GeForce 7800 Go GTX, etc - but xtremenotebooks.com also has Turion64-based systems for the more mobility minded - i.e. those that don't want to lug around a 14 lb "portable". ;) I've been running full 64-bit on the system, and it's been *really* straightforward - I haven't found a *single* show-stopper (now that the RaLink rt2500 wireless driver is SMP-compatible, that is) - the only real minor annoyances I've had are that Flash won't work in the 64-bit (i.e. self-compiled) Firefox - darn, I sure miss all those "Punch the Monkey and win an iPod!" ads (however, I'm told this can be gotten around via either some clever 32-bit Flash plugin + 64-bit Konqueror sleight of hand, or by using the 32-bit firefox-bin instead of the self-compiled), and the fact that, oddly enough, win32codecs don't want to work in a 64-bit system either (which can be gotten around via the mplayer-bin package - another pre-compiled 32-bit version). And, of course, the most important thing - I can't stop just wallowing gleefully in my friends and relatives envious looks when I walk up with a laptop that is more powerful than their most powerful gaming and server systems... :) (With only *slightly* less battery life than a good desktop with no UPS... (Actually, I can get about 2 hours if I'm careful)). The ACPI functionality all seems to work quite well, saving suspend/hibernate, which I haven't really pursued due to my usage of the proprietary NVidia drivers + the fact that the rt2500 driver doesn't seem to play well with power management, but I would bet that if you unloaded both those modules and did a suspend or a hibernate, it would go well for you. So, overall, as far as Gentoo + AMD64 goes, my experience has pretty much been no different than Gentoo + x86 - a good one! HTH- James > James > > > > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list