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From: Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] CPU upgrade and LVM questions.
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2018 14:48:28 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b77e7740-6cc2-3314-8ed1-b083ddbfdcc2@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8C60D5E6-7B6D-4109-ADA8-4BD9DAB78471@antarean.org>

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J. Roeleveld wrote:
> On December 8, 2018 6:23:04 PM UTC, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     Alexander Puchmayr wrote:
>
>         Am Donnerstag, 6. Dezember 2018, 10:27:31 CET schrieb Dale:
>
>             Howdy, I mentioned in other threads that I'm doing some
>             upgrades to my system. My first question is about a CPU
>             upgrade. I currently have this for my CPU, from cpuinfo:
>             AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 955 Processor I've bought but not yet
>             installed a FX-8350 CPU. I have this in my make.conf file:
>             CFLAGS="-march=native -O2 -pipe" 
>
>         Compiling the whole system with -march=native might lead to
>         troubles, especially when doing a CPU change. This option
>         means that gcc is determining the type of CPU automatically
>         and adjusts the instruction set used to exactly this CPU.
>         Although, in your case, it is highly likely that your new CPU
>         understands all commands from the old, but I wouldn't bet on
>         it. Its possible that your existing software encounters
>         problems like "illegal instruction" or the like. Very bad if
>         your compiler crashes after CPU replacement, then you cannot
>         emerge anything. I highly recommend using CFLAGS="-O2 -pipe"
>         and nothing more, the performance difference is, if measurable
>         at all, negligible.
>
>             USE_CPU="fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr
>             pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht
>             syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm 3dnowext
>             3dnow constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc extd_apicid
>             pni monitor cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic
>             cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs
>             skinit wdt nodeid_msr hw_pstate npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save" 
>
>         As someone else in this thread already mentioned, USE_CPU is
>         not used. What you're looking for is CPU_FLAGS_X86=..., which
>         defines what cpu-specific options will be enabled for packages
>         supporting it and where it makes sense. See package
>         cpuid2cpuflags for details. Regards Alex 
>
>
>     It seems the holiday shopping is slowing down delivery.  My fan was
>     supposed to be here today but didn't arrive.  Since I got time, I'll
>     change the CFLAGS for at least the @system stuff, that should get me
>     booted for sure.  While the native setting makes things easier for
>     normal use, I can see the point of not using it when changing CPUs. 
>     That is one reason for this thread.  The CPUs are different and may
>     require some changes during the swap. 
>
>     Is there a easy way to see what if any changes will be made?  I did a
>     emerge -UDNa @system but it's not showing any change.  Does it require a
>     emerge -e @system to force the change?  Or is it not changing anything?
>
>     Thanks much.  Better safe than sorry.  ;-)
>
>     Dale
>
>     :-)  :-) 
>
>
> A CFLAGS change requires a rebuild of all packages done with gcc. I am
> not aware of a simple way of only doing those, so a "emerge --empty
> @world" will be needed.
>
> --
> Joost
> -- 
> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. 


Based on the output, that's what I was thinking. Emerge picks up on
other USE changes but it seems it only grabs the CFLAGS during the
compile/configure phase for each package. Would this change the kernel
image as well or would it remain the same?  I may build a new kernel
just to be sure.

One good thing about this, I can compare the times with current CPU and
new CPU later and get a rough idea of speed increases.  ;-) 

Pardon me while I generate some heat.  o_O

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-06  9:27 [gentoo-user] CPU upgrade and LVM questions Dale
2018-12-06 10:03 ` Neil Bothwick
2018-12-06 15:17   ` Dale
2018-12-06 16:51   ` J. Roeleveld
2018-12-06 18:36 ` Corbin Bird
2018-12-06 20:58   ` Dale
2018-12-06 21:24     ` Jack
2018-12-06 21:55       ` Dale
2018-12-07  1:06     ` Corbin Bird
2018-12-07  1:17       ` Dale
2018-12-07  5:10         ` Dale
2018-12-07  6:22           ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2018-12-07  7:30             ` Dale
2018-12-07 10:49               ` Alec Ten Harmsel
2018-12-07 23:47               ` Nikos Chantziaras
2018-12-07 23:59                 ` Dale
2018-12-09 18:23                 ` Taiidan
2018-12-09 18:57                   ` J. Roeleveld
2018-12-09 22:41                     ` Dale
2018-12-10 21:33                     ` Taiidan
2018-12-10 22:14                       ` Neil Bothwick
2018-12-10 22:54                         ` Dale
2018-12-11  2:00                           ` Taiidan
2018-12-11  8:49                             ` Neil Bothwick
2018-12-11  9:23                               ` Mick
2018-12-11 10:48                               ` Dale
2018-12-11 15:14                                 ` J. Roeleveld
2018-12-11 22:46                               ` Adam Carter
2018-12-11 23:56                                 ` Dale
2018-12-12  2:15                                   ` Adam Carter
2018-12-11 10:20                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-12-11 15:03                             ` J. Roeleveld
2018-12-07  8:47         ` [gentoo-user] " Neil Bothwick
2018-12-07  8:58           ` Dale
2018-12-06 21:02 ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2018-12-06 21:45   ` Dale
2018-12-06 22:22     ` Nikos Chantziaras
2018-12-06 23:23       ` Dale
2018-12-06 23:40         ` Nikos Chantziaras
2018-12-07  0:19           ` Dale
2018-12-07 10:01             ` Peter Humphrey
2018-12-07 12:41               ` Dale
2018-12-07 16:51                 ` Peter Humphrey
2018-12-08  1:01                   ` Dale
2018-12-08  2:51                     ` Nikos Chantziaras
2018-12-08  4:39                       ` Dale
2018-12-08  5:33                       ` David Haller
2018-12-08  5:45                         ` Dale
2018-12-08  6:00                         ` Nikos Chantziaras
2018-12-08  6:28                           ` David Haller
2018-12-08  4:23                 ` David Haller
2018-12-08  5:35                   ` Dale
2018-12-08  6:06                     ` David Haller
2018-12-08  5:38                   ` David Haller
2018-12-08  9:40                     ` Peter Humphrey
2018-12-08  9:50                       ` Peter Humphrey
2018-12-06 21:03 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Taylor
2018-12-09 22:45   ` Dale
2018-12-10  1:35     ` Grant Taylor
2018-12-10  2:38       ` Dale
2018-12-10  3:37         ` Grant Taylor
2018-12-10  9:27         ` Neil Bothwick
2018-12-10 16:00           ` Dale
2018-12-08 17:49 ` Alexander Puchmayr
2018-12-08 18:23   ` Dale
2018-12-08 19:09     ` J. Roeleveld
2018-12-08 20:48       ` Dale [this message]
2018-12-11 10:41 ` Dale
2018-12-22 23:58 ` Dale

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