From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gentoo-user+bounces-182204-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org> Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C67261382C5 for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Tue, 23 Jan 2018 19:14:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B0AB9E0907; Tue, 23 Jan 2018 19:14:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mtaout006-public.msg.strl.va.charter.net (mtaout006-public.msg.strl.va.charter.net [68.114.190.31]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3420DE0824 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 23 Jan 2018 19:14:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from impout004 ([68.114.189.19]) by mtaout006.msg.strl.va.charter.net (InterMail vM.9.00.023.01 201-2473-194) with ESMTP id <20180123191442.RHDY7358.mtaout006.msg.strl.va.charter.net@impout004> for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 23 Jan 2018 13:14:42 -0600 Received: from [97.93.195.171] ([97.93.195.171]) by impout004 with charter.net id 1vEh1x0063iMEG101vEhxS; Tue, 23 Jan 2018 13:14:42 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=EdC4eLuC c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=i3x7l9iubIrdbMHvE2oOlw==:117 a=i3x7l9iubIrdbMHvE2oOlw==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=UlvNam-1VwiRFA5qnFwA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 X-Auth-id: Y29yYmluYmlyZEBjaGFydGVyLm5ldA== Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] kernel 4.9.77 error segfault in compile. To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <19f22bc3-ce42-e4e1-f4ab-52625a19f34c@charter.net> <CAJ1xhMXHpLM4jULa8HqfPvaeumvZZGiQUMtEw8Tg8SNLaXK+nQ@mail.gmail.com> <CAGfcS_ntiRyuq+tXdBCRw2qGN92oY4rfRRSUVd=ULpcJ5QfpvQ@mail.gmail.com> <5e0e9718-5620-ba1a-3088-bc4b6ee60bd5@charter.net> <CAJ1xhMUFK+Z9FbCdLOPekemdVT2S+4vgPdOJPZTHfxygutprXA@mail.gmail.com> <851471aa-845c-6819-16d4-2a282b03549c@charter.net> <CAJ1xhMUDBd1Pa2Agg6gFUcKPwPU1PjHjjG69_Xy7MG9FePmK1Q@mail.gmail.com> <a36a3aff-b8c7-57da-229b-baffaf2164cf@charter.net> <CAGfcS_=9OWgSFxqJ_62ivTa8uw6Ezbx3a42WzkCpmJSWQ-7Jhw@mail.gmail.com> <c5f35160-a106-ed6e-c040-0c74551a93ee@youngman.org.uk> From: Corbin Bird <corbinbird@charter.net> Message-ID: <b2a7bce6-048f-74fc-c4dc-d75ccac94a8b@charter.net> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 13:14:20 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.2 Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <c5f35160-a106-ed6e-c040-0c74551a93ee@youngman.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-Archives-Salt: 0ca18a80-4af1-476e-9f55-1ab1776250f0 X-Archives-Hash: 7d89519e7b31b7bfd0428fcda9a65a64 On 01/23/2018 11:59 AM, Wol's lists wrote: > On 23/01/18 17:35, Rich Freeman wrote: >>> Wonderful ... just finished a complete reload of Gentoo. Now have to >>> redo it again ... >>> ... the mistake? I used ext2/ext3 for the fs. >>> >> Abandoning ext4 over retpolines/etc seems a bit drastic. My guess is >> that there is a bug in the latest kernel that will get fixed, or maybe >> a bug in gcc (which needs to be patched for spectre anyway). > > Did you use the ext2/ext3 driver? I believe it's been abandoned? > > The ext4 driver is compatible with 2/3 file systems, so as I > understand it all development effort goes into the ext4 driver, and > any problems with the older drivers is likely to be met with "upgrade > your driver". > > So if you were using that driver, it could be suffering bit-rot. > > Cheers, > Wol > Sometime back the kernel devs decided to 'remove' the ext2 / ext3 fs drivers. The ext2 / ext3 fs drivers are NOT available. Any choice of ext2 / ext3 forces the use of the ext4 fs driver. If I could use the real ext2 / ext3 fs drivers ... ... I would in the blink of an eye. ext2 / ext3 are the definition of 'stable' file systems. ext4 .... unstable, still in development, prone to breakage. Corbin