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From: Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CPU upgrade and LVM questions.
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2018 16:54:19 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b09274d3-3cab-d1b5-333d-2e16a96d0a8f@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181210221412.2097b809@digimed.co.uk>

Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 16:33:10 -0500, Taiidan@gmx.com wrote:
>
>>> Not sure which country would be a reliable location though, I
>>> wouldn't trust Western European countries either.  
>> USA is currently the best option since there have never been proven
>> backdoors in made in usa hardware but plenty in chinese made hardware
>> such as the recent motherboard hack chip scandal.
> So that proves that US manufacturers are better at hiding their back
> doors?
>
> Or is it a numbers game, there are a hell of a lot more systems made in
> China, so the chances of a backdoor being discovered is higher.
>
> Either way, lack of evidence of insecurity is not proof of security.
>
>

I think the best thing to do, trust none of them until proven secure. 
Let people test them, try to hack into them and do other things to see
if there is a backdoor or not.  The same with encryption.  One can say
it is secure but until it is tested very hard for a significant amount
of time, one never knows if it is or not.  Some security problems/holes
don't show up for years. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 




  reply	other threads:[~2018-12-10 22:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-06  9:27 [gentoo-user] CPU upgrade and LVM questions Dale
2018-12-06 10:03 ` Neil Bothwick
2018-12-06 15:17   ` Dale
2018-12-06 16:51   ` J. Roeleveld
2018-12-06 18:36 ` Corbin Bird
2018-12-06 20:58   ` Dale
2018-12-06 21:24     ` Jack
2018-12-06 21:55       ` Dale
2018-12-07  1:06     ` Corbin Bird
2018-12-07  1:17       ` Dale
2018-12-07  5:10         ` Dale
2018-12-07  6:22           ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2018-12-07  7:30             ` Dale
2018-12-07 10:49               ` Alec Ten Harmsel
2018-12-07 23:47               ` Nikos Chantziaras
2018-12-07 23:59                 ` Dale
2018-12-09 18:23                 ` Taiidan
2018-12-09 18:57                   ` J. Roeleveld
2018-12-09 22:41                     ` Dale
2018-12-10 21:33                     ` Taiidan
2018-12-10 22:14                       ` Neil Bothwick
2018-12-10 22:54                         ` Dale [this message]
2018-12-11  2:00                           ` Taiidan
2018-12-11  8:49                             ` Neil Bothwick
2018-12-11  9:23                               ` Mick
2018-12-11 10:48                               ` Dale
2018-12-11 15:14                                 ` J. Roeleveld
2018-12-11 22:46                               ` Adam Carter
2018-12-11 23:56                                 ` Dale
2018-12-12  2:15                                   ` Adam Carter
2018-12-11 10:20                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-12-11 15:03                             ` J. Roeleveld
2018-12-07  8:47         ` [gentoo-user] " Neil Bothwick
2018-12-07  8:58           ` Dale
2018-12-06 21:02 ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2018-12-06 21:45   ` Dale
2018-12-06 22:22     ` Nikos Chantziaras
2018-12-06 23:23       ` Dale
2018-12-06 23:40         ` Nikos Chantziaras
2018-12-07  0:19           ` Dale
2018-12-07 10:01             ` Peter Humphrey
2018-12-07 12:41               ` Dale
2018-12-07 16:51                 ` Peter Humphrey
2018-12-08  1:01                   ` Dale
2018-12-08  2:51                     ` Nikos Chantziaras
2018-12-08  4:39                       ` Dale
2018-12-08  5:33                       ` David Haller
2018-12-08  5:45                         ` Dale
2018-12-08  6:00                         ` Nikos Chantziaras
2018-12-08  6:28                           ` David Haller
2018-12-08  4:23                 ` David Haller
2018-12-08  5:35                   ` Dale
2018-12-08  6:06                     ` David Haller
2018-12-08  5:38                   ` David Haller
2018-12-08  9:40                     ` Peter Humphrey
2018-12-08  9:50                       ` Peter Humphrey
2018-12-06 21:03 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Taylor
2018-12-09 22:45   ` Dale
2018-12-10  1:35     ` Grant Taylor
2018-12-10  2:38       ` Dale
2018-12-10  3:37         ` Grant Taylor
2018-12-10  9:27         ` Neil Bothwick
2018-12-10 16:00           ` Dale
2018-12-08 17:49 ` Alexander Puchmayr
2018-12-08 18:23   ` Dale
2018-12-08 19:09     ` J. Roeleveld
2018-12-08 20:48       ` Dale
2018-12-11 10:41 ` Dale
2018-12-22 23:58 ` Dale

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