From: Jeremi Piotrowski <jeremi.piotrowski@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 22:42:23 +0200 (CEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.20.1508282223520.5361@gentoo-tp.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55E0BFC9.1070700@comcast.net>
> > On Thursday, August 27, 2015 9:25:01 PM Michel Catudal wrote:
> > > This is nonsense. I have never had a case where it would not boot when I
> > have grub correctly installed on the partition.
This hasn't happened to you so it obviously means it isn't possible...
On Fri, 28 Aug 2015, Michel Catudal wrote:
> Le 2015-08-27 23:36, Fernando Rodriguez a écrit :
> > Install grub to a partition and do something like this:
> >
> > su
> > cd
> > mv /boot/grub grub
> > cp -r grub /boot
> > rm -r grub
> >
> What is your point? same if I do that with grub1, it was even more fun with
> windows 98 by deleting win.ini or renaming it "win .ini"
> With grub on the partition my bootloader doesn't get wacked and I can restore
> the OS if I do a stupid thing like this.
>
You seem to be trying really hard to _not_ get what people are saying to
you.
The above commands will *not* change anything visibly - they are akin
to backing up your grub configuration and later restoring. It ends up at
the same location on the filesystem, but this doesn't mean it is at the
same location on the block device.
That's the problem with installing grub to a partition: all it really does
is store (in the PBR) a list of blocks where the grub core.img is located
without caring about the filesystem structure on top. This is a _fragile_
set-up.
So there. There are technical reasons why this is not a supported setup.
No one has removed this option from grub2, so all your complaints about
dictatorship are invalid.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-08-28 20:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-08-25 18:44 [gentoo-user] keeping grub 1 James
2015-08-25 19:01 ` Florian Gamböck
2015-08-25 19:26 ` Fernando Rodriguez
2015-08-25 19:46 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-08-25 21:20 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-08-26 0:39 ` [gentoo-user] " James
2015-08-26 1:46 ` Dale
2015-08-26 8:21 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-08-26 15:10 ` [gentoo-user] Grub1: Cant ? " James
2015-08-26 15:26 ` Alec Ten Harmsel
2015-08-26 15:48 ` [gentoo-user] " James
2015-08-26 15:59 ` Alec Ten Harmsel
2015-08-26 16:20 ` James
2015-08-26 17:55 ` Jeremi Piotrowski
2015-08-26 16:55 ` Grant Edwards
2015-08-26 17:37 ` [gentoo-user] " Fernando Rodriguez
2015-08-26 22:27 ` Michel Catudal
2015-08-26 23:41 ` Fernando Rodriguez
2015-08-28 11:20 ` Tom H
2015-08-27 12:49 ` Mike Gilbert
2015-08-27 13:11 ` Peter Humphrey
2015-08-28 11:22 ` Tom H
2015-08-28 11:41 ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-27 14:19 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2015-08-27 16:34 ` Mike Gilbert
2015-08-27 16:47 ` James
2015-08-27 19:30 ` Grant Edwards
2015-08-27 19:44 ` Mick
2015-08-27 20:03 ` Fernando Rodriguez
2015-08-27 22:06 ` Mick
2015-08-27 22:37 ` Fernando Rodriguez
2015-08-27 22:47 ` Jeremi Piotrowski
2015-08-28 11:35 ` Tom H
2015-08-27 19:53 ` Fernando Rodriguez
2015-08-27 17:17 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-08-27 23:05 ` Jeremi Piotrowski
2015-08-28 1:06 ` Grant Edwards
2015-08-28 11:41 ` Tom H
2015-08-28 11:24 ` Tom H
2015-08-29 16:17 ` Michel Catudal
2015-08-29 16:38 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-08-29 16:53 ` Terry Z.
2015-08-29 16:57 ` Mike Gilbert
2015-08-29 17:12 ` Michel Catudal
2015-08-27 16:50 ` [gentoo-user] " mcatudal
2015-08-27 17:16 ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-08-27 23:06 ` Michel Catudal
2015-08-28 11:52 ` Tom H
2015-08-27 17:18 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-08-27 19:18 ` Fernando Rodriguez
2015-08-27 23:36 ` Michel Catudal
2015-08-28 0:31 ` Jeremi Piotrowski
2015-08-28 1:25 ` Michel Catudal
2015-08-28 1:50 ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-28 2:03 ` Michel Catudal
2015-08-28 2:14 ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-28 8:09 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-08-28 3:36 ` Fernando Rodriguez
2015-08-28 20:08 ` Michel Catudal
2015-08-28 20:27 ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-28 20:42 ` Jeremi Piotrowski [this message]
2015-08-28 11:55 ` Tom H
2015-08-29 16:29 ` Michel Catudal
2015-08-28 11:28 ` Tom H
2015-08-28 20:23 ` Terry Z.
2015-08-27 18:23 ` Fernando Rodriguez
2015-08-27 18:31 ` Fernando Rodriguez
2015-08-27 19:02 ` Mick
2015-08-27 19:34 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2015-08-28 9:24 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-08-29 3:46 ` Grant Edwards
2015-08-29 9:41 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-08-29 16:00 ` Michel Catudal
2015-08-29 20:56 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-08-29 21:48 ` Michel Catudal
2015-08-29 22:14 ` »Q«
2015-08-27 23:17 ` [gentoo-user] " Michel Catudal
2015-08-27 23:57 ` Neil Bothwick
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