From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2DE81385BF for ; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 00:31:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D48D9E091E; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 00:31:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-f41.google.com (mail-la0-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 904E0E0907 for ; Fri, 28 Aug 2015 00:31:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by laaa3 with SMTP id a3so13796331laa.2 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 17:31:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:message-id:references:user-agent :mime-version:content-type; bh=PhaKgf1/ew0I9Tn+ecwPvYVWnFeGRSc9rrvjC1ATqsM=; b=yHs4vjv2lm9tiZWAfMSNiStZHp8sZFiAjHRGHKzK7ya7bro4B+mDrhIKc7ad46sslq pN/G3r9zKPU8QdYko3l4Lh3zS+1vNu+826SPNrJVuqI/JV0LP+wZXH5CJPzz7PknzNzh vjX/67w5DQ5keITdklo+5ruzWWGKYblLsGj97eW5pVCvQUt+HDc99V/zS5+7kfXGIjE/ Dw1w5oRBsAIkib9HivLOBzrv9dZR39rBabPRVgN4yOLrLkzDs3bT4UBg4Mk5uls6PRM7 xamLVKqalZ+zvxP8k3PPBE9NEVHMr9CP0sgREtBtfWF++e4MlKbidY0VFiwWr1imAL7+ qjcg== X-Received: by 10.152.45.97 with SMTP id l1mr3491807lam.113.1440721892166; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 17:31:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gentoo-tp.home (87-205-239-247.adsl.inetia.pl. [87.205.239.247]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i7sm971548lag.9.2015.08.27.17.31.30 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 27 Aug 2015 17:31:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 02:31:29 +0200 (CEST) From: Jeremi Piotrowski X-X-Sender: jeremi@gentoo-tp.localdomain To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1 In-Reply-To: <55DF9EEB.2080403@comcast.net> Message-ID: References: <50376531.11846538.1440694215112.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> <55DF9EEB.2080403@comcast.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (LNX 67 2015-01-07) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Archives-Salt: da0cfe12-8b0f-4901-b513-e1aea707ce28 X-Archives-Hash: 619b5489516276268c872db2354a7088 On Fri, 28 Aug 2015, Michel Catudal wrote: > No one is asking them to do that. As mentioned before it works with some > override. A solution to the problem would be to remove the arrogance toward > people who want grub on a partition and remove the part in the installer that > refuses to install it unless you give it an override. To me they are dealing with this in the right way. As the developers they have to decide what setups they want to support as the spectrum is huge and manpower is limited. There are problems with installing grub to a partition, read [1]. Therefore it is not supported and not allowed by default, because if they don't do this people: 1. _will_ try installing to a partition 2. _will_ render their system unbootable 3. _will_ come running for help and complaining 4. _will_ get angry when you tell them `I told you so' Seems perfectly legit to want to spare yourself this trouble. > If I say write the > bootloader on the partition, that should work as requested, they can still > write a comment that they do not like us doing it but should not keep us from > doing it. If it doesn't work we will see it soon enough. > I don't get you - that _is_ exactly what they are doing. You say 'write bootloader to partition' by adding the force flag and grub2 complains but does what it is told. [1]: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1229097#p1229097