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From: Jeremi Piotrowski <jeremi.piotrowski@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 01:05:46 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.20.1508280052330.6154@gentoo-tp.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150827181711.49f2c3e4@hactar.digimed.co.uk>

On Thu, 27 Aug 2015, Neil Bothwick wrote:

> On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 14:19:29 +0000 (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote:
> 
> > For those of us with multiple Linux installations on a disk, that's a
> > pretty big reason to stick with grub-legacy.
> 
> Actually, that's a good scenario for GRUB2. grub2-mkconfig can detect
> all Linux installations on a system, not just the running one, so you
> only need one GRUB to boot everything. That's why distro installers are
> so much better at setting up Linux dual booting these days, because GRUB2
> makes it simple for them.
> 

It's true that grub2-mkconfig does Linux detection well but the problem
with one grub and multiple distros is the need to manually regenerate the
config.

I give you the following scenario:
Gentoo + another binary distro (say Fedora). Whichever one manages the
grub config can regenerate it on updates. On gentoo you'd do that manually
(post-install hooks?), Fedora would run grub2-mkconfig on kernel updates.
But what happens when the other one (not responsible for the config)
updates in a way that affects booting...?

You end up with an inconsistant config. To regenerate you need to boot
into the config-managing-distro or atleast chroot. But the worst thing is
you have to review all updates to find out if the config needs changing.

I much prefer chainloading and giving each distro free reign over their
own boot loader. That way they can pretend they're the boss and work the
way they were intended to and I can supervise things from gentoo.


  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-27 23:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-25 18:44 [gentoo-user] keeping grub 1 James
2015-08-25 19:01 ` Florian Gamböck
2015-08-25 19:26   ` Fernando Rodriguez
2015-08-25 19:46 ` Alan McKinnon
2015-08-25 21:20 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-08-26  0:39   ` [gentoo-user] " James
2015-08-26  1:46     ` Dale
2015-08-26  8:21       ` Neil Bothwick
2015-08-26 15:10 ` [gentoo-user] Grub1: Cant ? " James
2015-08-26 15:26   ` Alec Ten Harmsel
2015-08-26 15:48     ` [gentoo-user] " James
2015-08-26 15:59       ` Alec Ten Harmsel
2015-08-26 16:20         ` James
2015-08-26 17:55         ` Jeremi Piotrowski
2015-08-26 16:55       ` Grant Edwards
2015-08-26 17:37   ` [gentoo-user] " Fernando Rodriguez
2015-08-26 22:27     ` Michel Catudal
2015-08-26 23:41       ` Fernando Rodriguez
2015-08-28 11:20         ` Tom H
2015-08-27 12:49       ` Mike Gilbert
2015-08-27 13:11         ` Peter Humphrey
2015-08-28 11:22           ` Tom H
2015-08-28 11:41             ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-27 14:19         ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2015-08-27 16:34           ` Mike Gilbert
2015-08-27 16:47           ` James
2015-08-27 19:30             ` Grant Edwards
2015-08-27 19:44               ` Mick
2015-08-27 20:03                 ` Fernando Rodriguez
2015-08-27 22:06                   ` Mick
2015-08-27 22:37                     ` Fernando Rodriguez
2015-08-27 22:47                     ` Jeremi Piotrowski
2015-08-28 11:35                   ` Tom H
2015-08-27 19:53             ` Fernando Rodriguez
2015-08-27 17:17           ` Neil Bothwick
2015-08-27 23:05             ` Jeremi Piotrowski [this message]
2015-08-28  1:06               ` Grant Edwards
2015-08-28 11:41               ` Tom H
2015-08-28 11:24           ` Tom H
2015-08-29 16:17             ` Michel Catudal
2015-08-29 16:38               ` Alan McKinnon
2015-08-29 16:53               ` Terry Z.
2015-08-29 16:57               ` Mike Gilbert
2015-08-29 17:12                 ` Michel Catudal
2015-08-27 16:50         ` [gentoo-user] " mcatudal
2015-08-27 17:16           ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-08-27 23:06             ` Michel Catudal
2015-08-28 11:52               ` Tom H
2015-08-27 17:18           ` Neil Bothwick
2015-08-27 19:18           ` Fernando Rodriguez
2015-08-27 23:36             ` Michel Catudal
2015-08-28  0:31               ` Jeremi Piotrowski
2015-08-28  1:25                 ` Michel Catudal
2015-08-28  1:50                   ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-28  2:03                     ` Michel Catudal
2015-08-28  2:14                       ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-28  8:09                       ` Neil Bothwick
2015-08-28  3:36                   ` Fernando Rodriguez
2015-08-28 20:08                     ` Michel Catudal
2015-08-28 20:27                       ` Rich Freeman
2015-08-28 20:42                       ` Jeremi Piotrowski
2015-08-28 11:55               ` Tom H
2015-08-29 16:29                 ` Michel Catudal
2015-08-28 11:28           ` Tom H
2015-08-28 20:23           ` Terry Z.
2015-08-27 18:23         ` Fernando Rodriguez
2015-08-27 18:31           ` Fernando Rodriguez
2015-08-27 19:02             ` Mick
2015-08-27 19:34               ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2015-08-28  9:24                 ` Neil Bothwick
2015-08-29  3:46                   ` Grant Edwards
2015-08-29  9:41                     ` Neil Bothwick
2015-08-29 16:00                   ` Michel Catudal
2015-08-29 20:56                     ` Neil Bothwick
2015-08-29 21:48                       ` Michel Catudal
2015-08-29 22:14                   ` »Q«
2015-08-27 23:17           ` [gentoo-user] " Michel Catudal
2015-08-27 23:57             ` Neil Bothwick

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