From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D77B1385BF for ; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 22:48:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 152E39575F; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 22:47:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-f182.google.com (mail-lb0-f182.google.com [209.85.217.182]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C09E314293 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 22:47:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lbbsx3 with SMTP id sx3so20375080lbb.0 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 15:47:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:message-id:references:user-agent :mime-version:content-type; bh=TKFwKr/R+JHSObFwdfotkYtvE2CusxsofBRRK05JJGQ=; b=PLJ1lF+MVVmrbq4DsNdQ0p7JAlwaHtVMbxsSdniVFzdUnuTCn5Or5wjyfjgZWw46bQ 65es2L2YiGOD0hIXaF084CaZmcEG/EYN+e9xRPbB0JU2fRQW7Hi8piTASPx5z424nOIU YqhFcsCuRUbej+gfpYUliUssXvD8uEDOFf7U8uePI3kTcLYV8H5rKhkXERQ5s8NNSJU+ nx9/XuqLOqOrILQG7e7WZDlysVGl1s8m0NPHk/HtodrVBnZbG9PkjSwpTpGmN8zjJHt8 kmb3I87YRFVj2Gv/2edui9EuYocJ8GisCmNCIj6fuXzQ2ZxPUcMJWfGlFo+5zqCJRqO+ hFxQ== X-Received: by 10.152.6.73 with SMTP id y9mr3375325lay.45.1440715672291; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 15:47:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gentoo-tp.home (87-205-239-247.adsl.inetia.pl. [87.205.239.247]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c5sm913433lae.47.2015.08.27.15.47.50 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 27 Aug 2015 15:47:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2015 00:47:49 +0200 (CEST) From: Jeremi Piotrowski X-X-Sender: jeremi@gentoo-tp.localdomain To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1 In-Reply-To: <201508272306.57167.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <201508272044.13708.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <201508272306.57167.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (LNX 67 2015-01-07) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Archives-Salt: eafa22f2-4636-4b33-b970-0d7dc8b357e5 X-Archives-Hash: ecf219fd9de840f3089ed0fb6e0acb4a On Thu, 27 Aug 2015, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: > I use GRUB2 because my efi firmware (like most) is really buggy. > Changing the boot order doesn't work at all (neither on the menu nor > through efibootmgr), so I have to delete and recreate the entries in the > right order. What I did is create 2 efi entries, one for my main kernel > and one for grub2 and I added entries for all my secondary kernels and > windows on the grub2 menu. I have a similar setup: an efi entry for my kernel and gummiboot instead of grub2. I would use the firmware boot selector for multibooting, but going there lengthens the boot by around 10 seconds (Lenovo notebook) which is too much for my liking. So instead I by default boot into gummiboot and from there I choose my kernel, separate grub2's from Fedora and Ubuntu, or FreeBSD. Everything is nice and fast that way. Fedora and Ubuntu manage their own grub configs on kernel updates and I don't have to mess with any boot loader configs myself. On Fri, 28 Aug 2015, Mick wrote: > Interesting ... here I had no such problems on an EUFI Asus MoBo. I > have a number of kernels (up to six last time I looked) and I can change > the boot order with 'efibootmgr -o ,,...,' I have a MSI B85-G43 and I must say that thing is the worst when it comes to managing the UEFI boot order. It completely ignores the one set using `efibootmgr -o` and instead seems to keep track of the order in which entries are added. Half of the time it even ignores me selecting the EFI boot entry during boot and instead merrily continues to load what it considers to be the _first_ entry. So I just use grub2 there and everything is fine.