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From: "Rafael Barrera Oro" <borafael@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo 2007.0 installer problem (unpacking the stage tarball takes forever)
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   Yes, i guess it is required to be willing and able to read instructions.
However, when you are not a linux expert and want to set-up a gentoo
workstation fast (my case) i think it would be convenient to use a graphical
installer and then, with time get to know the basic install and all the
concepts behind it.
   I have installed gentoo before using the normal install, nevertheless i'd
never get it right the first time so i thought "hey! i'll try with the
graphic for once, should be simpler and faster" (i achieved successful
installs with the 2006.0 LiveCD).

Anyway, back to whats important. I tried an installation downloading the
stage from the following  URL
http://gentoo.localhost.net.ar/snapshots/portage-latest.tar.bz2 and, again,
all ended in a big fail, here are the logs:

GLI: September 07 2007 12:09:04 - Gentoo Linux Installer version 0.5.4
GLI: September 07 2007 12:12:59 - Mounted mountpoint: /
GLI: September 07 2007 12:13:00 - Created mountpoint /boot
GLI: September 07 2007 12:13:00 - Mounted mountpoint: /boot
GLI: September 07 2007 12:17:37 - Fetching and unpacking tarball:
http://gentoo.localhost.net.ar/snapshots/portage-latest.tar.bz2
GLI: September 07 2007 12:24:38 -
http://gentoo.localhost.net.ar/snapshots/portage-latest.tar.bz2 was fetched
and unpacked.
GLI: September 07 2007 12:24:40 - Chroot environment ready.
GLI: September 07 2007 12:24:40 - This is a bad thing. An exception occured
outside of the normal install errors. The error was: '[Errno 2] No such file
or directory: '/mnt/gentoo/var/tmp/spawn.sh''
GLI: September 07 2007 12:24:40 - Traceback (most recent call last):
GLI: September 07 2007 12:24:40 - File
"/opt/installer/GLIClientController.py", line 122, in run
    func()
GLI: September 07 2007 12:24:40 - File
"/opt/installer/GLIArchitectureTemplate.py", line 583, in
install_portage_tree
    exitstatus = GLIUtility.spawn("emerge sync", chroot=self._chroot_dir,
display_on_tty8=True, logfile=self._compile_logfile, append_log=True)
GLI: September 07 2007 12:24:40 - File "/opt/installer/GLIUtility.py", line
302, in spawn
    wrapper = open(chroot+"/var/tmp/spawn.sh", "w")
GLI: September 07 2007 12:24:40 - IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or
directory: '/mnt/gentoo/var/tmp/spawn.sh'

PS: I guess i'll start downloading the normal install cd...

2007/9/7, Alan McKinnon <alan@linuxholdings.co.za>:
>
> On Thursday 06 September 2007, Whitt Madden wrote:
> > I agree, I think the reason most don't want to go that route, is
> > because they have to read the instructions. I do think however, that
> > if they offer it as a way to do the install, it should work. I've
> > had trouble with the graphical installer ever since it came to be. I
> > wonder why it has so many issues?
>
> I would think that the ability and willingness to read instructions is a
> prerequisite to running a gentoo system. And it should be
> non-negotiable, much like the ability and willingness to read is a
> prerequisite for a university education.
>
> I fundamentally disagree with with the whole idea of a noob-proof gui
> installer for gentoo. That's ubuntu's province and they are very good
> at it. Gentoo caters to a different market.
>
> I'm not being elitist, I'm being pragmatic.
>
> alan
>
> --
> Optimists say the glass is half full,
> Pessimists say the glass is half empty,
> Developers say wtf is the glass twice as big as it needs to be?
>
> Alan McKinnon
> alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za
> +27 82, double three seven, one nine three five
> --
> gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
>
>

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&nbsp;&nbsp; Yes, i guess it is required to be willing and able to read instructions. However, when you are not a linux expert and want to set-up a gentoo workstation fast (my case) i think it would be convenient to use a graphical installer and then, with time get to know the basic install and all the concepts behind it.
<br>&nbsp;&nbsp; I have installed gentoo before using the normal install, nevertheless i&#39;d never get it right the first time so i thought &quot;hey! i&#39;ll try with the graphic for once, should be simpler and faster&quot; (i achieved successful installs with the 
2006.0 LiveCD). <br><br>Anyway, back to whats important. I tried an installation downloading the stage from the following&nbsp; URL<br><a href="http://gentoo.localhost.net.ar/snapshots/portage-latest.tar.bz2">http://gentoo.localhost.net.ar/snapshots/portage-latest.tar.bz2
</a> and, again, all ended in a big fail, here are the logs:<br><br>GLI: September 07 2007 12:09:04 - Gentoo Linux Installer version 0.5.4<br>GLI: September 07 2007 12:12:59 - Mounted mountpoint: /<br>GLI: September 07 2007 12:13:00 - Created mountpoint /boot
<br>GLI: September 07 2007 12:13:00 - Mounted mountpoint: /boot<br>GLI: September 07 2007 12:17:37 - Fetching and unpacking tarball: <a href="http://gentoo.localhost.net.ar/snapshots/portage-latest.tar.bz2">http://gentoo.localhost.net.ar/snapshots/portage-latest.tar.bz2
</a><br>GLI: September 07 2007 12:24:38 - <a href="http://gentoo.localhost.net.ar/snapshots/portage-latest.tar.bz2">http://gentoo.localhost.net.ar/snapshots/portage-latest.tar.bz2</a> was fetched and unpacked.<br>GLI: September 07 2007 12:24:40 - Chroot environment ready.
<br>GLI: September 07 2007 12:24:40 - This is a bad thing. An exception occured outside of the normal install errors. The error was: &#39;[Errno 2] No such file or directory: &#39;/mnt/gentoo/var/tmp/spawn.sh&#39;&#39;<br>
GLI: September 07 2007 12:24:40 - Traceback (most recent call last):<br>GLI: September 07 2007 12:24:40 - File &quot;/opt/installer/GLIClientController.py&quot;, line 122, in run<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; func()<br>GLI: September 07 2007 12:24:40 - File &quot;/opt/installer/GLIArchitectureTemplate.py&quot;, line 583, in install_portage_tree
<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; exitstatus = GLIUtility.spawn(&quot;emerge sync&quot;, chroot=self._chroot_dir, display_on_tty8=True, logfile=self._compile_logfile, append_log=True)<br>GLI: September 07 2007 12:24:40 - File &quot;/opt/installer/GLIUtility.py&quot;, line 302, in spawn
<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; wrapper = open(chroot+&quot;/var/tmp/spawn.sh&quot;, &quot;w&quot;)<br>GLI: September 07 2007 12:24:40 - IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: &#39;/mnt/gentoo/var/tmp/spawn.sh&#39;<br><br>PS: I guess i&#39;ll start downloading the normal install cd...
<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">2007/9/7, Alan McKinnon &lt;<a href="mailto:alan@linuxholdings.co.za">alan@linuxholdings.co.za</a>&gt;:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
On Thursday 06 September 2007, Whitt Madden wrote:<br>&gt; I agree, I think the reason most don&#39;t want to go that route, is<br>&gt; because they have to read the instructions. I do think however, that<br>&gt; if they offer it as a way to do the install, it should work. I&#39;ve
<br>&gt; had trouble with the graphical installer ever since it came to be. I<br>&gt; wonder why it has so many issues?<br><br>I would think that the ability and willingness to read instructions is a<br>prerequisite to running a gentoo system. And it should be
<br>non-negotiable, much like the ability and willingness to read is a<br>prerequisite for a university education.<br><br>I fundamentally disagree with with the whole idea of a noob-proof gui<br>installer for gentoo. That&#39;s ubuntu&#39;s province and they are very good
<br>at it. Gentoo caters to a different market.<br><br>I&#39;m not being elitist, I&#39;m being pragmatic.<br><br>alan<br><br>--<br>Optimists say the glass is half full,<br>Pessimists say the glass is half empty,<br>Developers say wtf is the glass twice as big as it needs to be?
<br><br>Alan McKinnon<br>alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za<br>+27 82, double three seven, one nine three five<br>--<br><a href="mailto:gentoo-user@gentoo.org">gentoo-user@gentoo.org</a> mailing list<br><br></blockquote>
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