From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-user+bounces-69126-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@gentoo.org>) id 1ITdGe-00020o-0H for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2007 12:49:00 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l87Cf6bB004756; Fri, 7 Sep 2007 12:41:06 GMT Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.180]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l87CaqOA032329 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Fri, 7 Sep 2007 12:36:53 GMT Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k34so533790wah for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Fri, 07 Sep 2007 05:36:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=N0CQeMP6fh9W0FrHdR+pNps0IkirRW8xXtAYUQgJcwI=; b=bZ9wbZ7UzrFd+U53+akXUqtqaJpuoG1o2bEvexxIL07zStbM76tW5/ckTLEvpuAHby0fGdreb+jx87STSbf1Phl+cYchRUJxSnJYS0fi7NKibT2ckdkzv9T2Hpu7W+zPdYgeU3wm4v66nzMwrCZYk9JpECGHacktZGAp1RsaEJk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=HIenWKFEYhB0meaIwxRsBQonDiF8pGnQFJYFeHaWlL1J43ErBRcpfFfoPBdKJCTfu5MWLROOPInETp7KlvFanLvIjblUphWPu2F36oceLk51nlA8PGoMtCu8dLIlNmr5XpfDjitdmpxR71ib7z7LCj5i7QEY2tasiF/FjjHtc3w= Received: by 10.114.149.2 with SMTP id w2mr1128141wad.1189168611456; Fri, 07 Sep 2007 05:36:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.115.60.20 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Sep 2007 05:36:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <a964044f0709070536l2c0e372dh9776128a6827ce5e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 12:36:51 +0000 From: "Rafael Barrera Oro" <borafael@gmail.com> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo 2007.0 installer problem (unpacking the stage tarball takes forever) In-Reply-To: <200709070947.08292.alan@linuxholdings.co.za> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1032_30356311.1189168611422" References: <a964044f0709050825y73d5e137j9f2949a31a270d32@mail.gmail.com> <342e1090709061308i656ff33m41ed098b72a66c0@mail.gmail.com> <28701ea60709061321m4949bc74pf5dd03f2ec98e21c@mail.gmail.com> <200709070947.08292.alan@linuxholdings.co.za> X-Archives-Salt: 6b22ed20-03f7-477e-8a54-6646756b8924 X-Archives-Hash: ab42ebc2626757d307aeddf167420fc4 ------=_Part_1032_30356311.1189168611422 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Yes, i guess it is required to be willing and able to read instructions. However, when you are not a linux expert and want to set-up a gentoo workstation fast (my case) i think it would be convenient to use a graphical installer and then, with time get to know the basic install and all the concepts behind it. I have installed gentoo before using the normal install, nevertheless i'd never get it right the first time so i thought "hey! i'll try with the graphic for once, should be simpler and faster" (i achieved successful installs with the 2006.0 LiveCD). Anyway, back to whats important. I tried an installation downloading the stage from the following URL http://gentoo.localhost.net.ar/snapshots/portage-latest.tar.bz2 and, again, all ended in a big fail, here are the logs: GLI: September 07 2007 12:09:04 - Gentoo Linux Installer version 0.5.4 GLI: September 07 2007 12:12:59 - Mounted mountpoint: / GLI: September 07 2007 12:13:00 - Created mountpoint /boot GLI: September 07 2007 12:13:00 - Mounted mountpoint: /boot GLI: September 07 2007 12:17:37 - Fetching and unpacking tarball: http://gentoo.localhost.net.ar/snapshots/portage-latest.tar.bz2 GLI: September 07 2007 12:24:38 - http://gentoo.localhost.net.ar/snapshots/portage-latest.tar.bz2 was fetched and unpacked. GLI: September 07 2007 12:24:40 - Chroot environment ready. GLI: September 07 2007 12:24:40 - This is a bad thing. An exception occured outside of the normal install errors. The error was: '[Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/mnt/gentoo/var/tmp/spawn.sh'' GLI: September 07 2007 12:24:40 - Traceback (most recent call last): GLI: September 07 2007 12:24:40 - File "/opt/installer/GLIClientController.py", line 122, in run func() GLI: September 07 2007 12:24:40 - File "/opt/installer/GLIArchitectureTemplate.py", line 583, in install_portage_tree exitstatus = GLIUtility.spawn("emerge sync", chroot=self._chroot_dir, display_on_tty8=True, logfile=self._compile_logfile, append_log=True) GLI: September 07 2007 12:24:40 - File "/opt/installer/GLIUtility.py", line 302, in spawn wrapper = open(chroot+"/var/tmp/spawn.sh", "w") GLI: September 07 2007 12:24:40 - IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/mnt/gentoo/var/tmp/spawn.sh' PS: I guess i'll start downloading the normal install cd... 2007/9/7, Alan McKinnon <alan@linuxholdings.co.za>: > > On Thursday 06 September 2007, Whitt Madden wrote: > > I agree, I think the reason most don't want to go that route, is > > because they have to read the instructions. I do think however, that > > if they offer it as a way to do the install, it should work. I've > > had trouble with the graphical installer ever since it came to be. I > > wonder why it has so many issues? > > I would think that the ability and willingness to read instructions is a > prerequisite to running a gentoo system. And it should be > non-negotiable, much like the ability and willingness to read is a > prerequisite for a university education. > > I fundamentally disagree with with the whole idea of a noob-proof gui > installer for gentoo. That's ubuntu's province and they are very good > at it. Gentoo caters to a different market. > > I'm not being elitist, I'm being pragmatic. > > alan > > -- > Optimists say the glass is half full, > Pessimists say the glass is half empty, > Developers say wtf is the glass twice as big as it needs to be? > > Alan McKinnon > alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za > +27 82, double three seven, one nine three five > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > ------=_Part_1032_30356311.1189168611422 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Yes, i guess it is required to be willing and able to read instructions. However, when you are not a linux expert and want to set-up a gentoo workstation fast (my case) i think it would be convenient to use a graphical installer and then, with time get to know the basic install and all the concepts behind it. <br> I have installed gentoo before using the normal install, nevertheless i'd never get it right the first time so i thought "hey! i'll try with the graphic for once, should be simpler and faster" (i achieved successful installs with the 2006.0 LiveCD). <br><br>Anyway, back to whats important. I tried an installation downloading the stage from the following URL<br><a href="http://gentoo.localhost.net.ar/snapshots/portage-latest.tar.bz2">http://gentoo.localhost.net.ar/snapshots/portage-latest.tar.bz2 </a> and, again, all ended in a big fail, here are the logs:<br><br>GLI: September 07 2007 12:09:04 - Gentoo Linux Installer version 0.5.4<br>GLI: September 07 2007 12:12:59 - Mounted mountpoint: /<br>GLI: September 07 2007 12:13:00 - Created mountpoint /boot <br>GLI: September 07 2007 12:13:00 - Mounted mountpoint: /boot<br>GLI: September 07 2007 12:17:37 - Fetching and unpacking tarball: <a href="http://gentoo.localhost.net.ar/snapshots/portage-latest.tar.bz2">http://gentoo.localhost.net.ar/snapshots/portage-latest.tar.bz2 </a><br>GLI: September 07 2007 12:24:38 - <a href="http://gentoo.localhost.net.ar/snapshots/portage-latest.tar.bz2">http://gentoo.localhost.net.ar/snapshots/portage-latest.tar.bz2</a> was fetched and unpacked.<br>GLI: September 07 2007 12:24:40 - Chroot environment ready. <br>GLI: September 07 2007 12:24:40 - This is a bad thing. An exception occured outside of the normal install errors. The error was: '[Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/mnt/gentoo/var/tmp/spawn.sh''<br> GLI: September 07 2007 12:24:40 - Traceback (most recent call last):<br>GLI: September 07 2007 12:24:40 - File "/opt/installer/GLIClientController.py", line 122, in run<br> func()<br>GLI: September 07 2007 12:24:40 - File "/opt/installer/GLIArchitectureTemplate.py", line 583, in install_portage_tree <br> exitstatus = GLIUtility.spawn("emerge sync", chroot=self._chroot_dir, display_on_tty8=True, logfile=self._compile_logfile, append_log=True)<br>GLI: September 07 2007 12:24:40 - File "/opt/installer/GLIUtility.py", line 302, in spawn <br> wrapper = open(chroot+"/var/tmp/spawn.sh", "w")<br>GLI: September 07 2007 12:24:40 - IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/mnt/gentoo/var/tmp/spawn.sh'<br><br>PS: I guess i'll start downloading the normal install cd... <br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">2007/9/7, Alan McKinnon <<a href="mailto:alan@linuxholdings.co.za">alan@linuxholdings.co.za</a>>:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> On Thursday 06 September 2007, Whitt Madden wrote:<br>> I agree, I think the reason most don't want to go that route, is<br>> because they have to read the instructions. I do think however, that<br>> if they offer it as a way to do the install, it should work. I've <br>> had trouble with the graphical installer ever since it came to be. I<br>> wonder why it has so many issues?<br><br>I would think that the ability and willingness to read instructions is a<br>prerequisite to running a gentoo system. And it should be <br>non-negotiable, much like the ability and willingness to read is a<br>prerequisite for a university education.<br><br>I fundamentally disagree with with the whole idea of a noob-proof gui<br>installer for gentoo. That's ubuntu's province and they are very good <br>at it. Gentoo caters to a different market.<br><br>I'm not being elitist, I'm being pragmatic.<br><br>alan<br><br>--<br>Optimists say the glass is half full,<br>Pessimists say the glass is half empty,<br>Developers say wtf is the glass twice as big as it needs to be? <br><br>Alan McKinnon<br>alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za<br>+27 82, double three seven, one nine three five<br>--<br><a href="mailto:gentoo-user@gentoo.org">gentoo-user@gentoo.org</a> mailing list<br><br></blockquote> </div><br> ------=_Part_1032_30356311.1189168611422-- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list