From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B207A15864F for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2023 13:31:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 676E8E091F; Mon, 27 Mar 2023 13:31:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.hosts.co.uk (smtp.hosts.co.uk [85.233.160.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 27422E08F7 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2023 13:31:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from host81-156-202-200.range81-156.btcentralplus.com ([81.156.202.200] helo=[192.168.1.65]) by smtp.hosts.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim) (envelope-from ) id 1pgmwg-000Bat-50 for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 27 Mar 2023 14:31:34 +0100 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2023 14:31:35 +0100 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.9.0 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] PCIe x1 or PCIe x4 SATA controller card To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <5d324904-4d4d-a02c-4a8a-cd985b170df6@gmail.com> Content-Language: en-GB From: Wol In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: 580cb3d7-f8a1-4975-a336-ce00b8ae4072 X-Archives-Hash: d6ef7ac18eebf7a08958dbea13eb6a17 On 27/03/2023 13:54, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Back in the day, CPUs were sold to run at an optimum work point, meaning a > compromise between silicon wafer yield, power consumption and performance. > Some of the chips were so good, they had the potential for overclocking, > meaning they are stable enough to be clocked higher and to handle the heat. > (But at no guarantee from the manufacturer, I presume. So if you grill it, > it’s your loss.) I remember one supplier, can't remember exactly the details, but it was something like "we supply overclocked chips to save you money. If you fry your chip within (18 months it might have been) we'll replace the chip with one spec'd at the higher price". They'd done the maths, and it was something like the chip would probably survive the warranty, and once the warranty expired, chip prices would have fallen to the point the customer could use the savings and replace a failed chip. Win win ... Cheers, Wol