From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E2CK4-0005YG-9L for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 08 Aug 2005 18:26:04 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j78IOEYp031637; Mon, 8 Aug 2005 18:24:14 GMT Received: from nproxy.gmail.com (nproxy.gmail.com [64.233.182.204]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j78IHGSC019441 for ; Mon, 8 Aug 2005 18:17:17 GMT Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id l37so247108nfc for ; Mon, 08 Aug 2005 11:17:37 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Di/18NH/4J5LHYgKcMWVJ7lqxjLDsdeGVob557b1KbSdZs/U9V51TiOrPAtA4OzcgFatIihaomKtWBHhPMEFcYq2hkAESpqtn8ejc3+FnaOdJA0NLS2ltjyocIKlY/748ssqo7MnlXKBBBmOKKIyGNtJ5pVEuwdjHoOTGPLUijM= Received: by 10.48.142.20 with SMTP id p20mr138912nfd; Mon, 08 Aug 2005 11:17:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.142.10 with HTTP; Mon, 8 Aug 2005 11:17:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2005 18:17:37 +0000 From: Fernando Meira To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] how to control portage space usage In-Reply-To: <42F73860.6090305@seanreiser.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_5983_31264146.1123525057604" References: <62c482fd.82fd62c4@planet.nl> <42F73860.6090305@seanreiser.com> X-Archives-Salt: 6bffcc34-93e6-45de-82cc-b29323dae710 X-Archives-Hash: c8a4d9f17a78f7d8b288b27074896ecc ------=_Part_5983_31264146.1123525057604 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi Sean, On 8/8/05, Sean Reiser wrote: >=20 > Fernando Meira wrote: >=20 > > I have: > > # df -h > > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > > /dev/hda4 4.6G 3.8G 803M 83% / > > udev 252M 808K 252M 1% /dev > > /dev/hda5 23G 20G 3.3G 86% /mnt/share > > /dev/hda1 9.8G 8.0G 1.8G 82% /mnt/windows > > none 252M 0 252M 0% /dev/shm > > > > Options: > > - erase hda1 (win$) and merge with with hda4. > > - somehow rearrange hda5 (which is FAT) and split it 2, and merge a > > part to hda4. >=20 > The question is...can you live without the windows partition?=20 Well, maybe. The problem is that sometimes I need to use something that=20 works only under windows (or better under windows). Besides that I only use= =20 windows for video-conference (I haven't found the time to look for a linux= =20 replacement, assuming that my webcam works under linux). if you don't need it I would look at this: >=20 > 1) Merge hda1 and hda4. Assuming this is desktop box that should be > plenty of space for the system and applications Yes, that would be the best I could do. But, assuming that I can't remove= =20 entirely windows from my laptop, what about reduce it to it's minimum=20 (windows + apps that I really need) and run it by VMware, always under=20 Gentoo? The spare space from unused apps would merge it with gentoo's=20 partition.. I estimate it of about 4Gb. What do you say about this? 2) Create a /boot partition (assuming you don't currently have one on > your box that wasn't mounted when you did the df). This way if your > system crashes at least /boot will not be corrupted. My /boot is inside gentoo's partition. I understand the point of having it= =20 outside.. I should think of changing it!! Good point! 3) Convert hda5 to ext3|reiserfs|jfs|mature non-fat fs of choice. Mount > it as /home. The reason it is FAT32 is to windows be able to access it. With windows=20 away, I could do that. >>From this partition (hda5) I may be able to free some space and "move" it t= o=20 gentoo's partition. 4) Consider creating a swap partition. Even if you have plenty of RAM, > in my experience Linux just runs better with a swap partition mounted. I have. 512mb swap. df shows it slitted into 2 other: udev and none.... I would strongly suggest that you do a full backup before doing any of > this. I know there are partition resizing and reformatting utilities > but they I wouldn't trust them without a backup. Yes, of course! Thanks for suggestions. Fernando. ------=_Part_5983_31264146.1123525057604 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi Sean,

On 8/8/05, Sean Reiser <s= ean@seanreiser.com> wrote:
Fernando Meira wrote:

> I have:
> # df -h
> Filesystem           = ; Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> /dev/hda4           =   4.6G  3.8G  803M  83% /
> udev            = ;      252M  808K  252M&n= bsp;  1% /dev
> /dev/hda5           =    23G   20G  3.3G  86% /mnt/share
> /dev/hda1           =   9.8G  8.0G  1.8G  82% /mnt/windows
> none            = ;      252M     0  252M   0% /dev/shm
>
> Options:
>&= nbsp; - erase hda1 (win$) and merge with with hda4.
>  = ;- somehow rearrange hda5 (which is FAT) and split it 2, and merge a
>= ; part to hda4.

The question is...can you live without the windows p= artition?  

Well, maybe. The problem is that sometimes I need to use something that works only under windows (or better under windows). Besides that I only use windows for video-conference (I haven't found the time to look for a linux replacement, assuming that my webcam works under linux).

 if yo= u don't need it I would look at this:

1) Merge hda1 and hda4. &= nbsp;Assuming this is desktop box that should be
plenty of space for the system and applications

Yes, that would be the best I could do. But, assuming that I can't remove entirely windows from my laptop, what about reduce it to it's minimum (windows + apps that I really need) and run it by VMware, always under Gentoo? The spare space from unused apps would merge it with gentoo's partition.. I estimate it of about 4Gb. What do you say about this?

2) Crea= te a /boot partition (assuming you don't currently have one on
your box = that wasn't mounted when you did the df).  This way if your
system crashes at least /boot will not be corrupted.
<= br> My /boot is inside gentoo's partition. I understand the point of having it = outside.. I should think of changing it!! Good point!

3) Conv= ert hda5 to ext3|reiserfs|jfs|mature non-fat fs of choice.  Mount=
it as /home.

The reason it is FAT32 is to windows be able to access it. With windows awa= y, I could do that.
>>From this partition (hda5) I may be able to free some space and "move&= quot; it to gentoo's partition.

4) Cons= ider creating a swap partition.  Even if you have plenty of RAM,<= br>in my experience Linux just runs better with a swap partition mounted.

I have. 512mb swap. df shows it slitted into 2 other: udev and none....

I would= strongly suggest that you do a full backup before doing any of
this.&nb= sp; I know there are partition resizing and reformatting utilities
but they I wouldn't trust them without a backup.

Yes, of course!
Thanks for suggestions.
Fernando.

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