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To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <2999953.5fSG56mABF@lenovo.localdomain> <5EEE9B0F.3070606@youngman.org.uk> <1827139.PYKUYFuaPT@lenovo.localdomain> <20200622112817.58303718@digimed.co.uk> <20200622105643.GA7037@waltdnes.org> <20200622121212.66b9603b@digimed.co.uk> From: Dale Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=rdalek1967@gmail.com; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mQINBFxc7MgBEAC+zrgEdqJJiDe/UDAB+ScmferXWfJTVjbVT2T4DQ7jiLrgP9aNUo1HioNF mrU3JPOCR32gvZyTbY1+niO5+VSo/+pSqQ785h6ZDj1klMkrg6tEzGnf2MNBpBj4houZwxQ+ WDKKTg2M9F+lv8wTIdR/JQn+hSviktLMtrghQlyLhpapsLXWLA6gMFebpQYwxUwemvan8ddX lQvJe9FGyFYvBi0dp1gl10F2O+DVZJxvX8xkX+yImVlhVJiC31gXHRcj+Qlo7gprlU7TIieF Uow6/ZvYKJ26pztVdFCg5w0rMJkF/x8Zd4A6wnuptiAPmWaQ1+YKgYDonbDUgwqFSx5/lN5z DGZ4LlioxeUTTPVvZsqBIeDz6jNFA583OYbo1/S26dqrvTFf2DKlsvoDpVfAhNlwJPjoixs0 X3FNqPv+M10n4kq5Iz7Q9E3O4s/nfFIYGocEslVka7zZPkXSaHbsn+KJlY8XV6qxtCEdh0/V XX1+1aU2J74M0JikWhpwxTZ1dP5aOyWSPPEgFFIRW6xwwC02SoRH9a7mggfGYp/YjPlONNaT SCL8sgRfvmq3D0XTbLyTjSbExxkfKDmbePQagawDE3TlI/oivHf1JaAcbwMb3LZuU4TGcOIl 5D+x7q0MUIeCop0ZFOwAnqW3AVVNvsBkv2KN+IHJryWAf0/iMQARAQABtBtEYWxlIDxyZGFs ZWsxOTY3QGdtYWlsLmNvbT6JAk4EEwEIADgWIQTZ7suruPBaS60bCYXvEM/XWu+ZnAUCXFzs yAIbIwULCQgHAgYVCgkICwIEFgIDAQIeAQIXgAAKCRDvEM/XWu+ZnN+7D/4/1dNG4aCz0+v+ 0dcjV5tY1feYEWCdHKyDzxWBxlCpd/0NPRQeNY4VMjbCl/sq7GkXi/c2SbfWDQ5BQRkkExG1 pSwuXSIehGok/4fpTi3HDAguRvzdCqlKPt7me05FyiC/WnpY5GOlJ3ruGw2qABv/RmV2q5b/ tkq7h1y1f16DTNr3/nsj8HzHcrHdXdL4kaYChSOe/dbQR9Stqak7eMyR+iwvrJMNF/CGl70P 2x5ybsXMDzRVOqNcpa5ZdhEMTVh6+vC1SOmm1BFMF8XCqBEvBbcHWDQmGYTdNCsS/ADm8CBl gvjJgLdIsAzoMu4WHQDFnzXAoArqFWgAf53isOS4AWrv29tF9b8Aa1vb7h5JEa+ArcMsA6Gl X38+GY6WXXaxKI9n3PTCWu9tPGnRh7mABjnwEosDDqmzw8aTAYECb3avDuGY2rmcjgh4H6RE w08d63j1T4d5J9wlm4TGtW/VHgbUFkATEdH3Acl/EjFiyqTiX7p8kU6Reu5enIkogA93xoQh Rmy7ZiST/5LN+ZkaOdyjIw0L+5KalslN9SKt809YxgJ6kPo657LNTFPiFvFA46/SEWcBYrzq Xk0wEW0gBRWf+BqN0qRhU0/EQ+QfRdLLFg2xtUePwlheYLXxfyDLrdCCOLWYpkzbjCZHLS4u 69smbvR9S9KBDNzJybxEWrkCDQRcXOzIARAA5IGRWTqaM44IJgBYghZg2fGj0Am7KWPhE7V7 T/EEe7vVSUEFqHtlHzI4ZK6Q0AZ9uAEjE8IJIQ7KoTjzNqAtabP0vp3s0szgtJlsZ+8vGKlQ my7fvzSrdoQL0Xn7CEwJYFXJ1EMUcYIQeoHG1cUAaXx73k9BFbjwjnUeMrqlV/ZovQlg7duW nESfQ7HZu5NrtYyY3jPMUouxiO9WQPh+IHxZbt1absF2VcvRAymD32RxGvMPbw6ChMRD/p9O 4PH7M5rXaxr78NXQX9E48vrI00f1cYb9NSN1HnSV8cW3jKObVjdBk6jPQwrMvdpgdQhUB9aZ HS/9mC9mmAgiXKyCpzXe7FPB6QznSfn4GIaC/luy1e6SLUkJhRK/niB+gq+Mfxg2zXNuDUTI cMGmpDCp3kgUoorkaltk8RW09io95BkXrGhcDNuSGZfAParBc7RXyYpbIcax8St7tEAd2oFh 4seYOPUlzuhGrPpqR/91wrFc4E1260GKauSr4UhMJv6tygBwyC0mmBMKi+ZXw6ZdZxA5fg7y 35P3TILjznCXXTDgRHq9A3NknKRMcgFacX6eIhANkMFo6oJVjuEgy1dvu1wFfDq7c+i8GAHu L4pYzyXYu6PporlNNU0xSwdVgzM/uuK0lt+UxCimgC+YR3IezgDcbfudb7h9dGIwL+bbPL0A EQEAAYkCNgQYAQgAIBYhBNnuy6u48FpLrRsJhe8Qz9da75mcBQJcXOzIAhsMAAoJEO8Qz9da 75mcXZ4P/1YXgWDZek7mhzrf6uaQzMxa92P89HeWz4PlgB/32symeEFAV04WazzBZffI8AYY rGA1Xmu/2VaB9+FOODyKhUWBc2UL0NRWBk6POwboyTdKlclmpixaN9zLcBt0YLejoRfN1B/5 aQf9/lUDZMnAiCyz0FgeqEMUshldmwWC35RqnjrCbbuk2vIqSH6BLDIXU6jQrLHE1DF0ai41 wLtQFAFXPhn45n0ZwYhVs4Z32z4sjXrIvgBgCaXa4HM+L1Klne0KiNM8ReFTTpTE0SgyDOSZ O3MOa2n77i6JbVtsbiFYnNeP3J9S/l3jevGpZEtNQOKrIm1MW8jGuHWtsDeMkT/mCcSodlkt PxIo+mMK9GpGvG2hW80LiohqNfUbNwAmr3blOYY4URPXPRnEnPs4pmTmL5owjw2dkg145i9I D42Tq+XZ6YtWt3SGzGbAYow6XwTwZ5NFAzV9UQuCGrDw4KWan6O6Z+VIYWsn0UMZlu1Obxna aocofkaUCbISK26kImuD1aA8juSHC18Qv1xUage6/UakbSxyDtACqt6hOVFKX3IA59ApdNRT +2x3iCmlvF9MJsGgFq6IpqL+Fk7iWV8Kjbz0wQOId6N9+JdQh3LrLaS7a1PowUm1z9DK5/O0 Yg+gpDnEOOFI7WM5u7a7FSM2Z/LXGVwel/0eWvLk9tN6 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2020 08:19:28 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.2 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200622121212.66b9603b@digimed.co.uk> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------DB8212A85E28A02DC67FBE43" X-Archives-Salt: 1212e8cd-b0d3-429b-8a98-945e01c7b079 X-Archives-Hash: 52c4521c2e2d751d4e4074f2e0805de3 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------DB8212A85E28A02DC67FBE43 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 22 Jun 2020 06:56:43 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > >>> The SD standard says >33G should use exFAT, this is why many devices >>> state they only support cards up to 32G. The really mean they only >>> support FAT. My Dashcam is like this but it happily works with a 128G >>> card, once I reformatted it with FAT. >> Warning; that still does not change the fact that each individual file >> cannot exceed 4G in size on regular FAT. > That's right, but a device designed to work with only FAT should never > try to save larger files. Any such devices I have used tend to split > videos into chunks of 1GB or smaller. > > So if I bought a 64GB card, I forced it to be formatted with FAT on say my Linux box here, it would work in my trail cameras anyway?  It makes sense.  It would seem it is more of a file system issue since accessing a device shouldn't be affected my its capacity, well, maybe some exceptions.  My trail camera may only support FAT which is only found on 32GB and smaller.  I can get that.  To be honest, even tho I leave that thing out there sometimes for months without checking it, and it takes a ton of pics, I don't recall it even going over a couple GBs or so.  Even the one that takes videos doesn't store a lot of data.  I don't think I'd buy that expensive a card but still, interesting that it is a option.  I'm thinking even my Canon camera can handle this.  That's a lot of pics tho.  I never thought about this this way.  Dale :-)  :-)  --------------DB8212A85E28A02DC67FBE43 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jun 2020 06:56:43 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:


The SD standard says >33G should use exFAT, this is why many devices
state they only support cards up to 32G. The really mean they only
support FAT. My Dashcam is like this but it happily works with a 128G
card, once I reformatted it with FAT.  

  Warning; that still does not change the fact that each individual file
cannot exceed 4G in size on regular FAT.

That's right, but a device designed to work with only FAT should never
try to save larger files. Any such devices I have used tend to split
videos into chunks of 1GB or smaller.


So if I bought a 64GB card, I forced it to be formatted with FAT on say my Linux box here, it would work in my trail cameras anyway?  It makes sense.  It would seem it is more of a file system issue since accessing a device shouldn't be affected my its capacity, well, maybe some exceptions.  My trail camera may only support FAT which is only found on 32GB and smaller.  I can get that. 

To be honest, even tho I leave that thing out there sometimes for months without checking it, and it takes a ton of pics, I don't recall it even going over a couple GBs or so.  Even the one that takes videos doesn't store a lot of data.  I don't think I'd buy that expensive a card but still, interesting that it is a option.  I'm thinking even my Canon camera can handle this.  That's a lot of pics tho. 

I never thought about this this way. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 
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