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[75.155.153.147]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o84sm18634089pfa.46.2017.11.19.08.37.55 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 19 Nov 2017 08:37:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] #gentoo experiences To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <15467bea-1854-bce7-7ce8-ecc97b982162@gentoo.org> From: Daniel Frey Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2017 08:37:53 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.3.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: edf94242-6f6b-4692-8a6e-8adcee583fbc X-Archives-Hash: 17def95c86ccd994165b5481917166e6 On 11/19/17 08:25, Taiidan@gmx.com wrote: > On 11/19/2017 07:56 AM, Michael Palimaka wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I'm collecting information about people's experiences in #gentoo. > Thanks! >> I'm interested in both good and bad experiences, with users, developers, >> and operators. Basically, anything that anyone would care to share would >> be much appreciated. > The lack of an ncurses setup gui/an express setup option is a major PITA > which is why I haven't yet used gentoo as dom0 in a production > environment, If something goes wrong and I am forced to re-install it > will take long enough for the boss to think I am bad at my job and it > isn't the type of thing one should do late at night. > > Same for home too - when I get back I want to start my movie > watching/gaming VM and kick back. > I would really enjoy some type of basic ncurses management gui to assist > with the configuration of the litany of options to make things go > faster, and to help prevent 2AM mistakes. > > I like using a CLI, but I also know that it is not always best. >> Feel free to contact me off-list if you'd rather not reply here (if so, >> please let me know if you'd like your response kept totally private - >> otherwise there is a chance that I might anonymise and share it). > Like most people I hated using gentoo until I got my first 16 core CPU > to ease the compile time suffering, compiling with an average dual or > quad core was shockingly slow when I first started using it. > > Maybe put a list of cheap but high performance CPU's somewhere with a > warning to get folks ready for the compile times (ex: the opteron 6386SE > $130 used for 16 cores and it doesn't have ME/PSP) > The way it's worded makes me think feedback was requested on the irc channels, but maybe I am wrong? Dan