From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ACE9F138334 for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2018 01:50:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9F811E092C; Fri, 27 Jul 2018 01:50:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from icp-osb-irony-out3.external.iinet.net.au (icp-osb-irony-out3.external.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.153]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78ED7E0856 for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2018 01:50:45 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2DBBQBheVpb/16i0HZUCBoBAQEBAQI?= =?us-ascii?q?BAQEBCAEBAQGDTmZqEo0LjT4sjHWKVQuEbAKCeCE4FAECAQEBAQEBAm0ohTc?= =?us-ascii?q?BBTIBVgsNCy5XEwgBARaDBoF/sDQaAoRChWWJGYFBP4E4gjYHLoRYcoUJAo1?= =?us-ascii?q?PjC8JhwmIJgaBR4ZlEwOFQZIzgSM1IYFSTR8ZgyWCJBcRjhMyj3YBAQ?= X-IPAS-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2DBBQBheVpb/16i0HZUCBoBAQEBAQIBAQEBCAEBAQGDT?= =?us-ascii?q?mZqEo0LjT4sjHWKVQuEbAKCeCE4FAECAQEBAQEBAm0ohTcBBTIBVgsNCy5XE?= =?us-ascii?q?wgBARaDBoF/sDQaAoRChWWJGYFBP4E4gjYHLoRYcoUJAo1PjC8JhwmIJgaBR?= =?us-ascii?q?4ZlEwOFQZIzgSM1IYFSTR8ZgyWCJBcRjhMyj3YBAQ?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.51,407,1526313600"; d="scan'208";a="96876138" Received: from unknown (HELO mail.vm.localdomain) ([118.208.162.94]) by icp-osb-irony-out3.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 27 Jul 2018 09:50:41 +0800 Received: from localhost (mail.vm.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.vm.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68B6F65757 for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2018 09:50:41 +0800 (AWST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at localdomain Received: from mail.vm.localdomain ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.vm.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JItP8OUD33AS for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2018 09:50:34 +0800 (AWST) Received: from [192.168.44.7] (rattus.lan.localdomain [192.168.44.7]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: wdk) by mail.vm.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A032765754 for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2018 09:50:34 +0800 (AWST) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Any real need to switch python targets back and forth every month? To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <20180726140110.37725a4f@digimed.co.uk> From: Bill Kenworthy Message-ID: Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2018 09:50:34 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20180726140110.37725a4f@digimed.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-AU X-Archives-Salt: 22ba046c-1c8c-4e65-8538-f9569273ccbc X-Archives-Hash: 0c297015fdc57af8811bcb28d2fea866 On 26/07/18 21:01, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 13:44:28 +0300, Grand Duet wrote: > >> Before switching python_targets for the first time, you could use your >> news system to inform Gentoo users that >> 1) you are switching python_targets > Like the one on May 22nd titled "Python 3.6 to become the default target"? > >> 2) it may be "a bit premature", > That sort of information is only known with hindsight or a time machine. > >> and so, those who really want to have a stable Gentoo system should >> 1) do such and such changes to their config files and > Like in the aforementioned news item? > > FWIW I had no problem with the profile change and locked my system at 3.6 > to save switching back when the profile did so. > > Yes there was the original news item - but nothing about the problems this caused, and the back and forwarding which is causing me grief.  It is only switching targets, but when you have problems and decide to remove 3.6 and recompile, then having to go through it all again without  proper information it has impact.  A news item is supposed to give information ... I am not criticising the changes itself (sh.. happens), but being left in the dark about it. BillK