From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A1392158043 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 12:35:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3343AE2A11; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 12:35:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.15]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (prime256v1) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3A5D4E29BC for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 12:35:11 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmx.de; s=s31663417; t=1713443705; x=1714048505; i=warp_7@gmx.de; bh=zxNAa061dfEgB40lNFM55pPDxyFpqTLfvFAAnaif6wU=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:References: MIME-Version:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:cc: content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id: mime-version:reply-to:subject:to; b=t5lSOGLL4Y6OxdN10QmhzzYQ34+rqnKrK3zlbMG3NMLidBBgNN7kKEwizlp7SyRa Tz3uDFDkv5qiJlaP4Ozfs5lmKTc+3Gq2UTxLXBaIvirZeW5jymt7o3aIoww5gEkZL vQ8mK0fij04ey0P609MqQE/I2S6JG6QTZ9X5Jl6oPn06/f79rYuiI2DrWYR0AdLl7 m9/dN4U8yAbPfQdt24ugk2iVPsgmUM3+WPS8nPty9UIMVk3M7JF17/ReCC7veCPhI lKoBMn1HGlJWk9TdwP3MWLB4/fgPsZWYt8WOksXvh4nRiU+vsI9IKRe9sBKIV+rIe l5gjVmWcmWPL2yEIKA== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Received: from schatulle ([89.245.63.25]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx004 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MD9X9-1roOQD3Maf-00979g for ; Thu, 18 Apr 2024 14:35:04 +0200 Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2024 14:35:03 +0200 From: Frank Steinmetzger To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300 Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <629d72ee-335f-c519-bd1f-2adf3a7b7ae7@gmail.com> <3480914.QJadu78ljV@rogueboard> <4adbab40-f200-eec1-49a8-1066b7cd7e43@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="USyofRh0T+FlPyU9" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4adbab40-f200-eec1-49a8-1066b7cd7e43@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt 2.2.13; VIM - Vi IMproved 9.1 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:RuOv3ACyPh2nuacY0iDfi4TSP64PTGI7AvIhKmqWFx3LAAC53cI /+2cL0029xpBp6zGvhjc99GT8TX5Zbb4YgM10tpU53ZYorMno9QS+ss1rmz/dvXXrxAz3g8 4W5T6oiAG7eVHAGHGvCVzsnzplDNZG4k8YSGYhDmzaujGQXiptqLsEJhtS5KVKQz+Iiv6kY JmVeftX0q741f2CVjDlsQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:d4OdCUGdPpw=;89NHULDb8zPwPsFchAThNG02qJy I9YmiJJ5MDnXEX2iKJGc9JeOepEF5HwCAONuK7xCIeF5p1Zg/XgOrXp9S8/4GiboZ4KxGM1kO wHs9GG21WA7h42h2KOKXfO/5O+1/+EOOlKWeVhX34myb0MATnftSAGSvM/aCk6rLzPGrLPqfa /gcSFg19uZLm05wjIHC14iZ/ZNYLnpz0PKvQ+B2lsHaXlVTCO8Nw/glb45bVUW4ncx2Xb/uUk qtbvePNSg/QuS3jP8xNWk8X0Wy1QujFclWEGDs1Sc1SVBJiUP8Hev7qsdvP6/7bpVo5BtDWzo tTTaHWi0VRA2XjzNd15yd7Brur33C4rED1J/rH1cgFhJsJA0ojnx84IwIw6VnN69j4Y2e45BB 6vmQlUmzwE2d0Mgr7dISXj6fs4SapC5vzuXa3NCHQeS936uFhctFPRW+nZGgV5Ot5DhCjyvAJ VBun4yx/MseYWDPG7Dxa9Dt00eTNDJLKTxP3hLOm2AmunvAFqNgX8LAl0j/rkWgMVp4MIChiI 6Vv9M4hVKIhKbrMcxAdTyzX/9GZQkb0Z3Agk7y/Z4scVkLADxrxNb5kaAhIP2lxcgU4DL+QDI TbmDQWipWCk1T9TfIpW02PlfNgC3RnXYdREmzeWs0jCsPdD9CwuEbdleno2Ys2+b3RUIAXDwU Y7Hjgz5AyK4LoHnW9pghovVoB6yC5mXTeBr3r9PZWswTB5pNWCMlC9nFJG2GsFOEq7TpWPCpR 0jdwrG6RTp7FRXFAatV/R7C4Yt5qd6J53VFhBRkLiruSiPb1DeL8qutVfwyBf+MGZMRLjcAJL bFhuQ/EpH0oQfrxN+ufQjPU/a3zUpONEG86CERTbQEi8A= X-Archives-Salt: 6fe9bbca-e5c7-4653-85c9-ea49b103ed5c X-Archives-Hash: 6d88650f05e5dee70ddc3843ea9306f5 --USyofRh0T+FlPyU9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Am Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 07:26:30AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > >>>> If you don't play games, then definitely get integrated graphics. > > I'd add to this, you could still play many games, especially older game= s using=20 > > a modern APU. The integrated graphics capability is broadly comparable= with=20 > > the entry level discrete GPUs. For driving a couple of monitors and wa= tching=20 > > videos an APU is more than adequate, saves money on a graphics card and= =20 > > consumes less power. > > >=20 > The biggest reason I like a separate video card, I can upgrade if > needed. If you don=E2=80=99t play (big) games, then there is no reason to upgrade (= except=20 if you plan on working with AI stuff). > Built in video means a new mobo. No, a new CPU. The mobo only provides the lanes from the iGPU to the=20 connectors on the back. The only constraint imposed by the motherboard may= =20 be an older version of the display link, like DisplayPort 1.2 instead of=20 1.4. Only the latter supports 4K @ 120 Hz, the former tops out at 60 Hz. > I'd suspect even the wimpiest video card would do what I need. In that case, every iGPU would do what you need. =F0=9F=A4=A1 The only exce= ption may=20 be some hot new video hardware encoder. RDNA2, as can be found in Ryzen=20 7000s, now supports AV1 decoding, which was still lacking in the 5000s. --=20 Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe | Greetings | Salut | Qapla=E2=80=99 =E2=80=9CMeow=E2=80=9D =E2=80=9CWoof=E2=80=9D Jeez, it= =E2=80=99s really raining today! --USyofRh0T+FlPyU9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCgAdFiEEVbE9o2D2lE5fhoVsizG+tUDUMMoFAmYhE3UACgkQizG+tUDU MMoiURAAiTh+KTrLvHN45wEVzgbVWR9l9rKJcDY1RRtKHvxubICwX4RNVZPoQ1Jq IPvdBJp94TzpLnX+aK7Zk/msY3LE1mOHdCTGb1v7ZLpWx5FiXu/iaG2bicQv0HpP dBJ9CdBWCDze8CZdX2A32t+vUCXDyDfDGUCdFhPxi9r11RHi0Pci0oXy3qOAUaJg P+UtbZcf4+5siSZL28REruGyOi9LzNDf26c5eiG1V9g9GuTgvCGC9P5N/k+wpdih HNLLmmVdkpM8vBqN2yO1U4v34PJGSU8kM+L8u85E+FkcyMw9O16EUF5YTx8Chhf5 yOI20lW2+BdWwJECh4WCTVQzdl6lkb7Tw0+EPxN0L3tCwUa8tBz58sVA8M2eicqe Z+gXFbnm8ngUe4sCqg/jQTZF+Fjc8XiYm1j3vdGyiusEYRq5ePKiNNLhGsm7JWP7 V9a+g9L9M/M9WAFUtXwlI+D89rXYAxGtLWMp3G4jm1Ky0rAOifYjWZdSteD+09s5 djZpfNhTJx+mbnutaOrekzZGulMbBzTUcDsqPkRdRcIjpgITZNmYCQglbmSX7BBj mM1X2MkKUOKzosduna3ULybbd1uVp59n8KlWpQP8ohRT11OGs/yoaG0oG2VDt51u R5y7ONTiY6AOJPvx7v7u9RY/habAjfsMwfp3keZfv99vIADDHaI= =G/wM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --USyofRh0T+FlPyU9--